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The FM Legacy site does have reproductions of concert posters for the February '71 Fillmore West and Swing Auditorium shows but not from the Whiskey shows. The 11-14 Feb. dates for the Fillmore and 19 Feb. date for the Swing appear to be correct based on the posters (see attached images). Posters are not always reliable - for example, there's a poster from those 8/69 Fillmore West dates that were cancelled, and I've seen other questionable posters as well - but there doesn't seem to be any particular reason to doubt the accuracy of these 2/71 dates. |
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This included, as it pertained to the Mac, FM radio staples (quasi-hits) like Hypnotized, Station Man, Sentimental Lady, and Bermuda Triangle. It also included many of the PG era hits that charted in the UK like Albatross, Oh Well, Man Of The World and The Green Manalishi. Hard to believe that only one of those - Oh Well - charted stateside out of that whole pack! :shocked: That's not to say that none of those tunes ever made it to the AM side, they did, but either as localized (regional) faves or by request. |
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Those dates look pretty good to me, based on what I know. I think the JS disappearing act could safely be dated Feb 15th now, pending some new revelation. I actually posted that date earlier, but decided to edit it out as I could easily see it being bumped up or down by a day or two or three in all the smoke and haze. Great poster finds also! That Swing is a keeper, for me more of a keepsake. :D And I never knew IABD - another one of my fave bands (and definite top favorite of the psychedelic genre) headlined immediately after the Mac at the Fillmore on their winter swing thru! I'm positive that would have been part of the Marrying Maiden tour, when the band still featured Hal Wagenet on guitar and Mitch Holman on bass. Alas, they were soon to exit stage left. btw it's the Whisky A Go Go, not Whiskey (a mistake we all make, since the drink cuts both ways). :p |
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Hey does Hjort indicate the recording studio for the TPO sessions and Kiln House by chance? I'm racking my brains trying to recall where those projects were done respectively, as I probably knew once upon a time but have lost a ****load of brains cells since. Ah... you know the bit. [x] cringe [x] --------+ *PS. I should add I do enjoy a lot of 80's stuff, bands like the Pretenders, Eurythmics, Heart, Katrina & The Waves, Berlin, Quarterflash, and the Motels. Do any of those queen size bands count? In fairness I don't really think Stevie Ray Vaughan, the Fabulous Thunderbirds, Huey Lewis or Asia qualify as such. |
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I missed this bit in Hjort's book before, regarding Christine McVie's joining the band....he writes that she joined the group on every date of their US tour that began in New Orleans, but that she was not officially a member of the band at first. He goes on to write that within a week of the New Orleans show, the UK music press was given the news that she was now a member of Fleetwood Mac and that she now wanted to be known as Christine McVie rather than Perfect. Mick Fleetwood's book says pretty much the same thing, but makes it sound like Christine was already officially a band member at the beginning of the tour. As others have noted in this thread, there might have been contractual issues to deal with here. |
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Hjort writes that the TPO sessions were at De Lane Lea, while Peter Lewry's book "Fleetwood Mac - The Complete Recording Sessions 1967-1997" says "studio unknown". Lewry's book shows the KH sessions taking place at Kiln House (this is not covered in Hjort's book). I seem to recall reading someplace that the band used the Rolling Stones' mobile studio for the KH sessions - does that sound right to anyone or did I just imagine it? Ah De Lane Lea, eh? I suspected as much but couldn't be sure. I believe they returned to the Music Centre for the Bare Trees production a bit later. As for Kiln House, I suppose this could be true, as I have it loosely in my head that they did that recording while dug in at the KH rental estate. We also know they recorded Penguin and Mystery To Me with the RSMS a few years later. But still, I have my nagging doubts. And if RSMS didn't actually factor in that early on, I can't believe they were self-equipped either, at least not per that time and place. Then again, how early did Pete Townsend set himself up? How did that old Focus tune go? Questions, Answers? Answers, Questions! :shrug: I missed this bit in Hjort's book before, regarding Christine McVie's joining the band....he writes that she joined the group on every date of their US tour that began in New Orleans, but that she was not officially a member of the band at first. He goes on to write that within a week of the New Orleans show, the UK music press was given the news that she was now a member of Fleetwood Mac and that she now wanted to be known as Christine McVie rather than Perfect. Interesting, and but another twist on the CM enlistment theme. I think it could best be guesstimated as August 1, if for no other reason than it works out to be the most agreeable compromise via all the takes. |
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A side note....one of the first really big-selling 12" singles was New Order's "Blue Monday" in 1983, which was not included on their subsequent LP Power, Corruption & Lies. But similar to "Oh Well" and Then Play On, "Blue Monday" was added to the later CD release of PC&L. |
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Now I've always been gullible I suppose, but never so much so as when I raised my fist to Country Joe's fish cheer. "And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us" ... blah blah blah |
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Country Joe did a fund raiser for a club i am in, this past summer to help us maintain a Hudson River Sloop called the "Woody Guthrie". It was built by Pete Seeger ,who is in the club, in 78, and Pete turned around and donated it to the club, providing we kept it afloat. Country Joe was doing a Woody Guthrie tribute tour and did the whole show for us. He may be banged about from the 60's but still has his wits about him and was a great show and is a good CD. The Fish were bigger than the DEad and Jefferson Airplane for a time. It would seem that Peter took a liking to him.
even if he was "rockhead" sorry for the digression doodyhead |
Moz, Keep going with the timeline! Don't let our frequent two cents and comments for revision deter you! I want to see more
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Though the Fish were an early example of psychedelic rock, it was often a case of acid rock gone wrong. With the exception of a few memorable tunes and blues licks, most of their stuff was too far out in left field, and fairly blasé and forgettable into the bargain (imo). On MacDonald's Superstitious Blues solo project, Jerry Garcia does make a guest appearance on the guitar on some of the tracks which is worth noting. Quote:
To add to the din, onward Moz! :laugh: |
Right now I'm going through Mick's book, finding more information. Hopefully I'll be able to update it during the weekend,
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Ah take all the time you need, the old guard and true Mac faithful aren't going anywhere - and we blow the pants off all those Stevie drones found ruminating elsewhere (across the hall). Ha! :D
Keep an eye out in whatever source material you have for where Kiln House was recorded. That one really interests me, though I'm not sure why. |
ETA: Added dates for Jan. 25 and Feb. 5, 6, 7 1969 to the timeline (first post on first page).
I took a peek at my Kiln House LP and, unsurprisingly, it didn't say where it was recorded. Hopefully Mick's book will give some clues. About the Dragonfly single: I found this at this site : They also released a single at that time; "Dragonfly" b/w "The Purple Dancer" in the U.K. and certain European countries. The single was not a success and the B-side has only been reissued once, on a Reprise German-only "Best of" album, making it one of their most obscure songs. I found a release date of March 5, 1971. Does that sound right? From this site, more about Christine joining the band: Christine made her first appearance with the band at Bristol University in May 1969 just as she was leaving Chicken Shack. She had had success with the Etta James classic, "I'd Rather Go Blind", and was twice voted female artist of the year in England. Christine McVie played her first gig as an official member on August 6, 1970 in New Orleans. August 6! I don't know if that's correct, but it's quite close to the guesstimation (I hate that word) of August 1. Peter filling in after Jeremy left: Liable for the remaining shows on the tour they convinced Peter Green to help finish the tour. He brought along his friend, Nigel Watson, who played the congas (twenty-five years later Green and Watson would collaborate again to form the Peter Green Splinter Group). Is this true? As for finishing this timeline, I'm facing a bit of a dilemma. The rest of the information I have yet to post on here are tidbits from '67-73 and everything from 1974 (since this is the pre-Rumours forum, I won't write up the stuff after Stevie and Lindsey joined). Should I continue on and add solo albums and other works Pete, Danny, Jeremy, etc. released after 1974? And what about Mick's albums, John's cd, and Christine's albums? I mean, they were in the pre-Rumours Fleetwood Mac. I'm also considering adding albums John Mayall recorded, and personal information, like when the band members were married, but I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in seeing that. And a completely unrelated question: What albums came with inserts/lyric sheets? I have the original version of Mystery to Me with "Good Things (Come To Those That Wait", but no lyric sheet (grieve_not, a member of livejournal.com, said so). And memorabilia and merchandise--what was made? I know Peter had a sticker that said "Fleetwood Mac is swift" on a guitar case, there were two Penguin-era bumper stickers, and on the back of Heroes Are Hard to Find, Bob is wearing a shirt that simply reads "Fleetwood Mac". EDIT: I got a usb record player for Christmas, so I am able to transfer records to mp3 format. I'd like to get "Good Things" up here for people to download, since it was never released on CD (as far as I know). If it's not on CD, it's not commercially available, so... my question is: would I get in trouble (from mods, admin, etc.) if I posted it here? And what other songs would I be able to upload? |
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