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aleuzzi 07-19-2023 06:39 PM

Christine’s $90 million fortune left to…
 
A slew of new articles have recently surfaced addressing who gets the bulk of Christine’s massive remaining fortune (after taxes). No surprise: her brother and his children and grandchildren…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmci...n-fortune/amp/


Articles point out some $ was left to various charities.

aleuzzi 07-19-2023 06:42 PM

Note $90 million US dollars is equivalent to about 70 [million] UK pounds.

DownOnRodeo 07-19-2023 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286026)
Note $90 million US dollars is equivalent to about 70 UK pounds.

Poor Christine, all those hits and dying with only a measly 70 UK pounds.:(
No wonder Hollywood is on strike!

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286026)
Articles point out some $ was left to various charities.

Probably The Mick Fleetwood Foundation.:lol:
"My dear songbird, I have the most brilliant idea to help ensure your legacy... Just sign here."

aleuzzi 07-19-2023 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1286029)
Poor Christine, all those hits and dying with only a measly 70 UK pounds.:(
No wonder Hollywood is on strike!



Probably The Mick Fleetwood Foundation.:lol:
"My dear songbird, I have the most brilliant idea to help ensure your legacy... Just sign here."

Har har. I’m making the edit right now.

HomerMcvie 07-19-2023 10:41 PM

Even if she left it all to Mick, he could blow through that easily in 5 years.

Penguin Emeritus 07-19-2023 11:04 PM

Does anyone know if this includes the flat she owned in Belgravia?

also was there ever any resolution to the big tax bill the estate owed a few months ago?

--Lis

SteveMacD 07-19-2023 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1286029)
Probably The Mick Fleetwood Foundation.:lol:

He WAS the guy who had the (completely obvious) idea to ask her to join the band.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1286032)
Even if she left it all to Mick, he could blow through that easily in 5 years.

I mean, he’s a 76 year old recovering addict. Is that really an issue?

aleuzzi 07-20-2023 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1286033)
Does anyone know if this includes the flat she owned in Belgravia?

also was there ever any resolution to the big tax bill the estate owed a few months ago?

--Lis

I got the impression this is post tax bill, which would make sense. Before that bill, her net worth was commonly valued at $120,000. [edit: $120 million] don’t think they could report the value of her estate and who receives it until they resolved the tax bill, which previous reports indicated was being handled. But who knows?

Villavic 07-20-2023 10:46 AM

Disappointed with the article by not finding my name among the heirs.

bombaysaffires 07-20-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1286033)
Does anyone know if this includes the flat she owned in Belgravia?

also was there ever any resolution to the big tax bill the estate owed a few months ago?

--Lis

that was roughly 17 million pounds or some such by itself...

DownOnRodeo 07-20-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286041)
Before that bill, her net worth was commonly valued at $120,000.

Are you sure you're not Mick's accountant?:D


Still I'm sure her family would decline all the millions if it meant they could still have their sister/aunt alive with them.

aleuzzi 07-20-2023 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1286058)
Are you sure you're not Mick's accountant?:D


Still I'm sure her family would decline all the millions if it meant they could still have their sister/aunt alive with them.

I’m not getting your comment. I am simply stating what I read on NetWorth sites. Care to explain why this would make me sound like Mick’s accountant?

Penguin Emeritus 07-20-2023 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286068)
I’m not getting your comment. I am simply stating what I read on NetWorth sites. Care to explain why this would make me sound like Mick’s accountant?

I think the person was just having a joke w you because you typed that Chris was worth 120,000 instead of 120 million...(now apparently worth 90 million after the tax thing was settled.) :-)

--Lis

aleuzzi 07-20-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1286069)
I think the person was just having a joke w you because you typed that Chris was worth 120,000 instead of 120 million...(now apparently worth 90 million after the tax thing was settled.) :-)

--Lis

Ah—thanks for that clarification. A typo. And I teach English!

DownOnRodeo 07-21-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286070)
Ah—thanks for that clarification. A typo.

Oops, I called you Chrisa few posts ago--I meant Tony.

ETA: Oops, I accidentally wrote over the top of my post rather than making a new one. Carry on...

aleuzzi 07-21-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1286084)
Sorry Chris, it was churlish to have another go but I couldn't resist.

90 million dollars... After a certain point it just becomes meaningless (for one person to have so much money), doesn't it. It would be lovely if the family used some of the inheritance to establish some sort of scholarship or prize in Christine's name. How about the Christine McVie Award for women singer-songwriter-instrumentalists?

Her brother seems like a principled but very private person. Not sure if he’ll do what you’re suggesting (which would be great) but I’m thinking he and his son are mindful enough to do something.

jbrownsjr 07-21-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286070)
Ah—thanks for that clarification. A typo. And I teach English!

Honestly, whenever I chat with you or David O, I am so careful with my diction/grammar, etc. :lol:

Penguin Emeritus 07-21-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286091)
Her brother seems like a principled but very private person. Not sure if he’ll do what you’re suggesting (which would be great) but I’m thinking he and his son are mindful enough to do something.

I agree w your description of him.

It would be interesting to see what they might do after taking care of family, which I assume will happen...? Maybe she just left it all to her brother, trusting that he'd take care of family... Chris's stepsister is married w 2 daughters, her half brother is married w 2 daughters, and then there's JP and his wife, and his 2 sons and their families. so let's assume all those people get a cut of that 90 million...there'd still be enough left to give a good chunk to charities that were close to her heart.

yeesh, i can't even imagine so much $$...

--Lis

David 07-21-2023 03:26 PM

I would support the Christine McVie Memorial Foundation Endowment for the Curation and Release of Old Fleetwood Mac Concerts.

Ninety million would go far.

aleuzzi 07-21-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1286097)
I agree w your description of him.

It would be interesting to see what they might do after taking care of family, which I assume will happen...? Maybe she just left it all to her brother, trusting that he'd take care of family... Chris's stepsister is married w 2 daughters, her half brother is married w 2 daughters, and then there's JP and his wife, and his 2 sons and their families. so let's assume all those people get a cut of that 90 million...there'd still be enough left to give a good chunk to charities that were close to her heart.

yeesh, i can't even imagine so much $$...

--Lis


I know, right?

WatchChain 07-21-2023 08:02 PM

Was any inheritance left for John? They seemed to remain cordial friends after the divorce and the passing of time.

On a sidenote, during the 2014 "On with the Show" Tour, I witnessed the most tender moment. I purchased tickets in the low section on the far side of the stage. We were very close with a side view and nothing to the left of us - I could see many technical things going on backstage in the dark.

During "Big Love" and "Landslide" when they weren't needed onstage, Christine and John took a seat on some equipment boxes backstage and just sat closely in the dark and chatted for a while. They laughed and gestured to each other like wonderful old friends. It was a moment of melancholy that was very touching to witness - even more so now that Chris has left us.

I am so grateful that we were blessed with the 2014 Tour.

SteveMacD 07-21-2023 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1286125)
Was any inheritance left for John?

I doubt it. John’s loaded.

vivfox 07-21-2023 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286108)
I would support the Christine McVie Memorial Foundation Endowment for the Curation and Release of Old Fleetwood Mac Concerts.

Me too!!!!

Penguin Emeritus 07-21-2023 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1286125)
Was any inheritance left for John? They seemed to remain cordial friends after the divorce and the passing of time.

On a sidenote, during the 2014 "On with the Show" Tour, I witnessed the most tender moment. I purchased tickets in the low section on the far side of the stage. We were very close with a side view and nothing to the left of us - I could see many technical things going on backstage in the dark.

During "Big Love" and "Landslide" when they weren't needed onstage, Christine and John took a seat on some equipment boxes backstage and just sat closely in the dark and chatted for a while. They laughed and gestured to each other like wonderful old friends. It was a moment of melancholy that was very touching to witness - even more so now that Chris has left us.

I am so grateful that we were blessed with the 2014 Tour.

I think those two felt they were blessed with it also. They were *extremely* close, and that last decade brought them even closer. He was with her before/when she died, which IMO puts him in a category way beyond cordial friends...

But I doubt she left him any of her fortune...he has always been frugal with a capital F and never lacked for money. As Steve said, he's loaded.

Mick , on the other hand, could probably use some $...:laugh:


--Lis

HomerMcvie 07-22-2023 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1286129)
I think those two felt they were blessed with it also. They were *extremely* close, and that last decade brought them even closer. He was with her before/when she died, which IMO puts him in a category way beyond cordial friends...

But I doubt she left him any of her fortune...he has always been frugal with a capital F and never lacked for money. As Steve said, he's loaded.

Mick , on the other hand, could probably use some $...:laugh:


--Lis

This. :angel: They were, HANDS DOWN, the coolest members ever. Especially in the golden years. They were what we all should aspire to. Lindsey is almost there. Stevie will never be there. Mick's just too stupid to ever not be broke. Someone should put him out of his misery.

SteveMacD 07-22-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1286132)
This. :angel: They were, HANDS DOWN, the coolest members ever.

I kind of wish they would have been in a different band after 1980 or started a new one. Something without all the drama.

UnwindedDreams 07-22-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1286142)
I kind of wish they would have been in a different band after 1980 or started a new one. Something without all the drama.

In 1974, if Stevie was in a duo with another guitarist whose music Mick heard, who would you have like it to be?

I'd say Rick Nielsen or Bruce.

SteveMacD 07-22-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286146)
In 1974, if Stevie was in a duo with another guitarist whose music Mick heard, who would you have like it to be?

I'd say Rick Nielsen or Bruce.

What a weird question.

aleuzzi 07-22-2023 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1286142)
I kind of wish they would have been in a different band after 1980 or started a new one. Something without all the drama.

I agree. A working band that recorded new material every 1-2 years.

aleuzzi 07-22-2023 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286146)
In 1974, if Stevie was in a duo with another guitarist whose music Mick heard, who would you have like it to be?

I'd say Rick Nielsen or Bruce.

She could have done well with The Eagles. But, as Rolling Stone noted during The Dance reunion, it was Buckingham’s vision and talent you could pluck out of 70s rock and plunk down anywhere…

In short: she needed him. Her celebrity helped make him more famous, but he was her interpreter, her “musical soulmate”…

UnwindedDreams 07-22-2023 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286152)
She could have done well with The Eagles. But, as Rolling Stone noted during The Dance reunion, it was Buckingham’s vision and talent you could pluck out of 70s rock and plunk down anywhere…

In short: she needed him. Her celebrity helped make him more famous, but he was her interpreter, her “musical soulmate”…

Stevie said meeting Lindsey was her destiny. Christine and Mick are both in print saying that Lindsey knew the best what to do with Stevie's songs. But here the sentiment seems to be Lindsey added nothing to Fleetwood Mac that another guitarist couldn't, like Rick Vito could have done everything Lindsey did and better.

SteveMacD 07-22-2023 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286153)
Stevie said meeting Lindsey was her destiny. Christine and Mick are both in print saying that Lindsey knew the best what to do with Stevie's songs. But here the sentiment seems to be Lindsey added nothing to Fleetwood Mac that another guitarist couldn't, like Rick Vito could have done everything Lindsey did and better.

I wasn’t really going to dignify that with a response, but since Tony responded…

So, Keith Olsen tells them Mick Fleetwood wants them to join Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey declines. Does anyone believe that Stevie wouldn’t have still elbowed her way into Fleetwood Mac, dragging along Waddy and possibly Warren Zevon?

Better? No. But still compelling.

I love Lindsey, but he gets gets a little too much credit. Keith scouted Fritz when Lindsey played bass and neither Stevie nor Lindsey were singing their own songs. Buckingham Nicks got signed because of their harmonies. Keith told them to ditch their band, start writing their own songs, and move to Los Angeles. Lindsey got mono and learned the crafts of guitar playing and producing, but Stevie honed her craft in songwriting. Who dominated the Coffeehouse Demos?

Stevie was the driving force for them moving to Los Angeles and, later, joining Fleetwood Mac.

For me, it all comes down to “Rhiannon,” because Christine had a solid body of work prior to 1975. It’s easy to hear Lindsey’s contributions to her songs, which were largely cosmetic. But the Buckingham Nicks “Rhiannon” from January, 1975 was comically amateurish compared to the legendary version we know. I could hear any bar band do something akin to the Buckingham Nicks version in any town across the country.

The Fleetwood Mac version several months later, by comparison, had elements that are steeped in the blues and numerous tours with bands like Deep Purple and Rainbow. There’s a dynamic and edge Fleetwood Mac developed with Peter, Danny, and especially Bob that went well beyond Lindsey’s vocabulary prior to 1975. They deserve great credit, too, and I think Lindsey has been all to happy to take the credit without acknowledging he couldn’t have gotten there without his bandmates.

He’s the proverbial was born on third and acts like he got a triple.

bombaysaffires 07-22-2023 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1286158)
I wasn’t really going to dignify that with a response, but since Tony responded…

So, Keith Olsen tells them Mick Fleetwood wants them to join Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey declines. Does anyone believe that Stevie wouldn’t have still elbowed her way into Fleetwood Mac, dragging along Waddy and possibly Warren Zevon?

Better? No. But still compelling.

I love Lindsey, but he gets gets a little too much credit. Keith scouted Fritz when Lindsey played bass and neither Stevie nor Lindsey were singing their own songs. Buckingham Nicks got signed because of their harmonies. Keith told them to ditch their band, start writing their own songs, and move to Los Angeles. Lindsey got mono and learned the crafts of guitar playing and producing, but Stevie honed her craft in songwriting. Who dominated the Coffeehouse Demos?

Stevie was the driving force for them moving to Los Angeles and, later, joining Fleetwood Mac.

For me, it all comes down to “Rhiannon,” because Christine had a solid body of work prior to 1975. It’s easy to hear Lindsey’s contributions to her songs, which were largely cosmetic. But the Buckingham Nicks “Rhiannon” from January, 1975 was comically amateurish compared to the legendary version we know. I could hear any bar band do something akin to the Buckingham Nicks version in any town across the country.

The Fleetwood Mac version several months later, by comparison, had elements that are steeped in the blues and numerous tours with bands like Deep Purple and Rainbow. There’s a dynamic and edge Fleetwood Mac developed with Peter, Danny, and especially Bob that went well beyond Lindsey’s vocabulary prior to 1975. They deserve great credit, too, and I think Lindsey has been all to happy to take the credit without acknowledging he couldn’t have gotten there without his bandmates.

He’s the proverbial was born on third and acts like he got a triple.

Mick, John (who has improved soooo many of Stevie's songs) and Christine made Rhiannon into something it would never, ever have been as just BN.

HomerMcvie 07-23-2023 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1286163)
Mick, John (who has improved soooo many of Stevie's songs) and Christine made Rhiannon into something it would never, ever have been as just BN.

Well, apparently you're not the authority, here. YOU NEED TO BACK TF DOWN.

SteveMacD 07-23-2023 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1286163)
Mick, John (who has improved soooo many of Stevie's songs) and Christine made Rhiannon into something it would never, ever have been as just BN.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1286167)
Well, apparently you're not the authority, here. YOU NEED TO BACK TF DOWN.

Did John not? I think John’s contributions, especially on Rhiannon, Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Sara, Angel, Sisters of the Moon, and Smile At You, were especially critical to the songs.

aleuzzi 07-23-2023 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286153)
Stevie said meeting Lindsey was her destiny. Christine and Mick are both in print saying that Lindsey knew the best what to do with Stevie's songs. But here the sentiment seems to be Lindsey added nothing to Fleetwood Mac that another guitarist couldn't, like Rick Vito could have done everything Lindsey did and better.

Yeah, I don’t buy that argument. Lindsey isn’t the most technically fluid guitarist the band had, nor is he a session musician who can execute other peoples’ idioms. But that’s the point. What he knew and knows made his attack on Chris and Stevie’s songs so special. Energy, too. He possesses a musical personality and has a unique charisma. All of this he brought to the band and to Stevie’s songs.

Naturally, the core trio of Fleetwood-McVie-McVie also made a mark.

UnwindedDreams 07-23-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286171)
Yeah, I don’t buy that argument. Lindsey isn’t the most technically fluid guitarist the band had, nor is he a session musician who can execute other peoples’ idioms. But that’s the point. What he knew and knows made his attack on Chris and Stevie’s songs so special. Energy, too. He possesses a musical personality and has a unique charisma. All of this he brought to the band and to Stevie’s songs.

Naturally, the core trio of Fleetwood-McVie-McVie also made a mark.

Thank you very much for your respectful and civil response that was not supercilious. God love you!

jbrownsjr 07-23-2023 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1286158)
I wasn’t really going to dignify that with a response, but since Tony responded…

So, Keith Olsen tells them Mick Fleetwood wants them to join Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey declines. Does anyone believe that Stevie wouldn’t have still elbowed her way into Fleetwood Mac, dragging along Waddy and possibly Warren Zevon?

Better? No. But still compelling.

I love Lindsey, but he gets gets a little too much credit. Keith scouted Fritz when Lindsey played bass and neither Stevie nor Lindsey were singing their own songs. Buckingham Nicks got signed because of their harmonies. Keith told them to ditch their band, start writing their own songs, and move to Los Angeles. Lindsey got mono and learned the crafts of guitar playing and producing, but Stevie honed her craft in songwriting. Who dominated the Coffeehouse Demos?

Stevie was the driving force for them moving to Los Angeles and, later, joining Fleetwood Mac.

For me, it all comes down to “Rhiannon,” because Christine had a solid body of work prior to 1975. It’s easy to hear Lindsey’s contributions to her songs, which were largely cosmetic. But the Buckingham Nicks “Rhiannon” from January, 1975 was comically amateurish compared to the legendary version we know. I could hear any bar band do something akin to the Buckingham Nicks version in any town across the country.

The Fleetwood Mac version several months later, by comparison, had elements that are steeped in the blues and numerous tours with bands like Deep Purple and Rainbow. There’s a dynamic and edge Fleetwood Mac developed with Peter, Danny, and especially Bob that went well beyond Lindsey’s vocabulary prior to 1975. They deserve great credit, too, and I think Lindsey has been all to happy to take the credit without acknowledging he couldn’t have gotten there without his bandmates.

He’s the proverbial was born on third and acts like he got a triple.

A bit of a pivot of topic, but Look what the brits do with Crystal. It goes from a good song at best to sonically and warmly incredible.

jbrownsjr 07-23-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1286158)

The Fleetwood Mac version several months later, by comparison, had elements that are steeped in the blues and numerous tours with bands like Deep Purple and Rainbow. There’s a dynamic and edge Fleetwood Mac developed with Peter, Danny, and especially Bob that went well beyond Lindsey’s vocabulary prior to 1975. They deserve great credit, too, and I think Lindsey has been all to happy to take the credit without acknowledging he couldn’t have gotten there without his bandmates.

Whilst also insulting the versions and personnel, prior and after him.

jbrownsjr 07-23-2023 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1286171)
Yeah, I don’t buy that argument. Lindsey isn’t the most technically fluid guitarist the band had, nor is he a session musician who can execute other peoples’ idioms. But that’s the point. What he knew and knows made his attack on Chris and Stevie’s songs so special. Energy, too. He possesses a musical personality and has a unique charisma. All of this he brought to the band and to Stevie’s songs.

Naturally, the core trio of Fleetwood-McVie-McVie also made a mark.

And just listen to her some of her solo demos. Some of them are so boring.


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