For a band that loves a good cash grab, they actually really suck at it.
 

For a band that loves a good cash grab, they actually left a lot of money on the ground. Thats my two cents.

- Multiple anniversaries of The Dance where they could have released the full concert on CD along with a remastered DVD.

- Never released anything from the reunion tour with Christine in 2014/15

- A Buckingham Nicks vinyl reissue remains a pipe dream

- A record store day pressing of the 2013 EP….nope.

I’d never thought we would see so many ‘79-‘80 live tracks see the light of day before so many of the obvious choices.

Edit: but hey, the glass is half full. It’s 2024 and we have Street Angel on vinyl! It’s a celebration!

In 1987, Bob Welch offered to fill-in for the tour.

Since 1987 was the band’s 20th Anniversary, they should have had Bob Welch be the opening act.

Look at the Eagles since Hell Freezes Over. They had Farewell 1 DVD set, which was awesome, and also The History of the Eagles (THREE DVDS), which is even better.

I guess we could never have the history of FM.... because even though they would all look bad, her high goatness would REALLY look bad, so she'd never allow it to happen.

They absolutely should have done something like “History of” but there’s no way. The thing about Don and Glenn, they didn’t care that they came off like absolute a-holes in that documentary. Stevie would never allow herself to not look like she is perfect.

Just in the “modern era” alone they have left so many opportunities on the table that would’ve been huge cash grabs.

Off the top of my head…
-Continuing The Dance tour to Europe/world in 1998 as a fivesome
-Re-releasing Buckingham Nicks in 1998 (25th anniversary) and continuing The Dance as a foursome, go to Europe and around the world, and then go back to the States to pimp the BN rerelease.
-Waiting 6 years between Chris leaving and releasing Say You Will
-making the 2009 tour, the first without an album to tour behind, a celebration of Tusk at 30. Should have been the focus of the tour including a 6-8 song “Tusk set” within. Release a recording along with the Tusk deluxe in the following years.
-Touring right away in 2014 - a new album should’ve been done first and released as Fleetwood Mac with the tour starting in 2015.
-if you’re not doing the above, milk Rumours more. With the 5 back together, play Rumours in its entirety during each show. Release a live album of it afterward.
-Releasing a live album from the actual 2014/15 tour
-and as previously mentioned, not doing something with the Dance at 20 or 25 years is such a missed money opportunity

These people are so dumb at business.

I did not know that. Interesting bit. I suppose they were still friends then since the lawsuit did not come until years later.
Maybe the band thought hiring Bob was looking back and not forward?
Makes you wonder besides the lawsuit if there was something else that pissed off Mick.

BTW, glad to see you are back. You always disappear for awhile. The board is not the same without you.


I really enjoyed the 1997 20th anniversary of Rumours release. I used to have it on VHS. We never got a 30th anniversary special and not a 35 anniversary either. But then again, would they keep telling the same stories over and over again? Or is it beating a dead horse? I was reading a thread on another site comparing Hotel California and Rumours. Even many Eagles fans say that Rumours is the better album. Its more pop but its more cohesive and has better songs over all.

I enjoyed History of the Eagles, since I have not found any other long documentary. But there are LOT of Fleetwood Mac documentaries. Most of them focused on Rumours, or its lineup. But anyway another FM documentary, even if it were more complete, beyond the Rumours lineup, I really don't need it.

However if the point is cash grab, a History of could mean a good cash for them? Probably, but not that much.

I so wish that had happened. Bob really merited the greater exposure that would have given him, although by the sound of it he wasn't in a great place at the time. Imagine what a Chris/Bob/Stevie/John/Mick album might have been like. He might have been able to coax something better out of Stevie than got on BTM.

I agree opening for FM would have been stellar. I would have loved that.

I see your point and would have loved to have all of those, but think of all the cash grab greatest hits tours. That's where the big bucks are. There's also too many to count reissues of Rumours and greatest hits collections. Those require virtually nothing from the band and bring in more $$$, although I don't think as much as touring. FM is no different, almost all classic bands do the same thing. Rehash. I still very much enjoy the remastered deluxe editions that have came out though and play them often.

The only thing I'm not interested in is the tours after 2012. I thought their voices were sounding pretty rough and they were propped up by more backup members than were in the band. It would require a lot of redo's and overdubs. And definitely not interested in the last karaoke tour, in any shape or form. That's just my 2 cents.

Yeppers. Especially if her four abortions came into the light. And the armies of men she's screwed. Yep, she's NEVER letting that sh*t into a doc.

Now there are four??? I've always heard just the Don story.

What was somebody saying about misogyny here?

The truth is the truth. Pull your head out of the sand.

My frustration is they are way too short-termist in their thinking. They don’t see the longer term money opportunities. A few years ago they chose to play at the Isle of Wight festival in the UK as they were offering more money on the table than Glastonbury. The longer term finances of a Glastonbury exposure would have been far higher than IOW.
Even then, there could have been a Live at the Isle of Wight release like so many other great bands.

If you can't discern the difference between blatant and constant misogyny and needing to "pull your head out of the sand" i feel for the women in your life.

You're a **** gay.

I realize that there is no modding here any more, but this is BS.

I have been on this board long enough to know what is appropriate and what is not.

Homer, I agree with your positions 98% of the time, however, can you please for the love of god take some responsibility for how your words may come across to others on here? Yes, Stevie ruined the band, the band of all of our lives, not just yours. Yes her voice is shot, yes she lies constantly, and yes she is a joke of her former self. But talking about how many abortions someone has had is in bad taste. In Australia, this is considered incredibly tacky and tasteless. and yet we are still sitting here on this board wondering where all the people have gone, and it's not because of Facebook. It's because the tone and depth of discussion have gone out the window.

The topic was WHY there would never be a History of FM. And I mentioned the reasons STEVIE would never allow it to happen. Because several of the facts of her life are ugly.
And the majority of us aren't in Australia, so get TF over yourself.

And nearly every regular has been posting goat lyrics for the past couple of weeks. You're okay with that?

Let me give you the only appropriate Australian response, you're a fuc*ing wanker! An insufferable fuc*ing wanker!

I hesitated responding but since I was the one that mentioned not digging the “homo” comment, I’ll weigh in—and then shut my mouth and go away.

I 100% agree that I do not want to read comments about abortions or how many persons someone has slept with. I just don’t. None of that is any of our business. Such of what Stevie had said and done in the last 15 years has really bugged me. But there are lines I won’t cross: comments about drugs, abortions, and sex in these contexts disturb me.

On the other hand, I also don’t want to read “homo” comments.

I loved the goat game because it was silly wordplay that gave a lot of us joy. I happen to dig a lot of the songs I and others “goated”: “Ain’t goat nothing better to do” cracked me up. The absurdity of the image!

So there: I’ve probably pleased no one here saying these things, but I do cherish this group.

I agree 200% with this. About the goat game, I don't enjoy it. But it doesn't bother me either. I just don't follow it and that's it.

I'll chime in here, too. You BOTH need to take it down a notch.

I do not like the abortion talk either. It's something that's humiliating for a woman (I can only imagine the mental anxiety.). There's the stigma that women can't be sexually active, like a man can. Which honestly, is absurd on so many levels. Then there's society's debate about it being murder, a sin, etc.

I feel that Stevie and Christine (and some crew/friends) were brave to avoid putting a child thru that rock and roll lifestyle. That life is exhausting and toxic. Has Stevie spoke of her abortions? Yes. But not in the humiliating way that's presented in this thread. The men were bigger whores than the women in this band. I promise you that. So let's keep the hot button topics off the table if they are going to be humiliating and triggering to a whole gender.

And as a gay man, I love to be goofy and laugh, but the name calling is uncalled for.

Guys, it's a message board. Don't trigger someone then expect everyone to love what you had to say. That notion is for everyone, including me. We are lucky to still have this board to talk about music, art etc.

Be better, and most of all, don't get mad if someone checks you on your behavior. Take it in, and process it. If you're never wrong, you'll never get better.

That's All For Everyone, and That's enough for me.

Well...this is a turn I wasn't expecting this thread to take! Always an adventure here at the ledge.

It's always your fault BigAl! :laugh:

Again, I only brought it up for WHY there would never be a History of FM, like there is for the band that has kicked their ass for 50 years, The Eagles. The REASONS that Stevie wouldn't allow it. I'm 100% against censorship, and am not afraid to discuss the truth. Maybe we differ there. Deal with it.

And again, IF there was any modding here, this falls under personal attack. But whatever.