1973
 

I know alot of people talk about 1975 and 1977 being big years in Fleetwood Mac's history, but to me 1973 is a big year also. I mean they released 2 albums and had the Fake Fleetwood Mac thing hit at the end of the year. I was wondering, how did they manage to record two albums in the span of 6 months. If memory serves me right, Penguin was released in april or so and Mystery to me was in September. ANd also I believe Bare Trees was releaed in September of the previous year, so they were really crankin out the music in that years time. Just like to get peoples thoughts. Thank you.

I agree, David, 1973 was a big year for Fleetwood Mac, and could have been even bigger if the band hadn't semi-imploded and the tour been cancelled. Mystery to Me was really gaining momentum, and if they'd kept touring behind it and promoting it, it might have been a really big album.

As for the fast-paced recording, that was just the norm for the band in those days. I bet if you had told Chris, Mick and John in 1973 that five years later they'd be spending more than a year and more than a million recording a new Fleetwood Mac album, they'd have laughed in your face. They were a struggling band going through a lot of line-up changes. They needed to get new product out there to promote whatever the latest incarnation of the band was. Bare Trees was recorded in just two weeks, I think, although I don't recall if that was the first sessions or the second, after the master reels were lost/stolen.

I like to think that MTM might've been HUGE, had Weston kept it in his pants, OR Mick have realized what a great album it was, and kept the band on the road.

I agree! I really, really like MTM. It's rare that I find an album I can listen to all the way through without skipping over a track or two, but I make an exception for this one. I likes me some Welch. :)

Ah, but would it have been played on AM radio, which was still Crossover King in 1973?

Remember, this was a time when young teenagers were listening to 92-KHJ play "One Tin Soldier" every afternoon precisely at 4 o'clock. I should know because I was on the school bus heading home every afternoon at the time, & the whole bus quieted down for the daily broadcast of "One Tin Soldier," a hook-filled megasuccessful song that AM radio owned.

www.thecolefamily.com/onetinsoldier.htm

See, now aren't you glad you eventually got the album?;) :)

You're never going to let me forget that I bought Wild Heart before it, are you? :laugh:

Maybe, maybe not...but, they were gaining a "mainstream" audience. Had they been able to capitalize on their Midnight Special appearance, the history of Fleetwood Mac from that point on might've been VERY different.

Actually, I think THE most significant year in Fleetwood Mac's history was from May 1970 through May 1971. In that time, they went from Fleetwood/McVie/Green/Spencer/Kirwan to Fleetwood/McVie/McVie/Kirwan/Welch.

SOMEBODY needs to seed the Midnight Special from '73!!
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Was this appearance in '73?

You got it. Hypnotized s one of the coolest songs going.:cool:

OMG!

Does someone HAVE the 1973 Midnight Special performance...

Well, for the love of GOD if you do...POST IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Abso-freakin-lutely! I'd love to hear this, too. Does anyone have it?

No.:laugh:

I have it on VHS, but not in digital format. They played "Miles Away" & "Believe Me". Chuck Berry introduced them! This is just about the only live thing we have of the Mystery To Me line-up.

If you go to Bob Welch's own site, he has a live recording of the MTM lineup playing "Black Magic Woman". That is really something to hear...it's GREAT!

I forgot about that.:o I had downloaded that awhile back. That's a great version of "Black Magic Woman".:thumbsup: I wonder if he has more live Fleetwood Mac tracks from those years.

If he's got THAT recording, I'll bet he's got that whole show. That would INCREDIBLY interesting to hear an entire MTM-era live show....especially one with THAT sound quality.

Songs I know for a fact they've played live that I someday would like to have live recordings of (if they exist):

Revelation
Night Watch
Remember Me (a Fleetwood Mac concert recording...I know Christine did this at the Bob Welch & Friends Live At The Roxy show)
Rattlesnake Shake (from 1975, with Lindsey on lead vocal)
The Bigger The Love ("Time" tour)

I think this is on the unedited Switzerland broadcast.

Here's hoping anyways that Welch releases that MTM show he's ovbiously got in full like you say someday soon. :)

John

Yeah, it aired 11/2/73 so it must've been recorded right before everything fell apart.

I put my VHS of it on DVD so I can rip it back to my computer & create an MPEG file but my e mail account won't attach such a big file.

If someone can explain to me how to post it (blush) I'll be happy to try when I can. :) I don't have the Chuck Berry intro bit though, I had to trim some of the fat to fit some things on to the DVD so...

John

Ummmm...anyone have? And want to share?

Again, I can this post this too, if someone can explain to me how to post them. :)

John

John, do you know how to use YouSendIt? You should be able to upload video files from your hard drive, although I've only used it for mp3 music files.

http://www.yousendit.com/

And, here's another site, in case you have trouble with YouSendIt:

http://rapidshare.de/

Yes, you can upload videos there too!!! I do!!!!

You would become a VERY POPULAR ledgie if you did post these!!!!

;)

OK well the Rapidshare link didn't work & Yousendit looks like a page to e mail them. I mean, you guys can PM me your e mail addresses if you want, but I thought it'd be easier to post it here or some site that would post it & give the link. Either way is fine with me but I'd imagine it'd be easier for all to see in one place rather than sending multiple e mails, y'know?

John

Has anyone ever asked Bob if he has that entire show? I thought he was thinking about offering tracks for download for a minimal fee. I'd gladly pay him to get that entire show, if he has it. I wonder if he had to get Mick's permission to post "Black Magic Woman".

chiliD, "Nightwatch" is on that 1974 Chicago bootleg that's in circulation. Unfortunately, the quality is quite poor. I would grade it as C quality. But it is out there.

Yeah, that bootleg is SO bad (sound qualitywise) that I keep trying to forget it exists. (they also do "I Loved Another Woman" on that one, too...I wish it was a better recording)

I've heard (or TRIED to hear) it a number of times...which keeps me from actively trying to own it.

YouSendIt does ask for an e-mail address, but all it does is send an e-mail with a link to the webpage to which you upload your file! When I use YouSendIt, I usually just put in my own e-mail address and then post the link to the file here on the Ledge.

They do "Bad Loser" too. And, "I Loved Another Woman" is radically different from any other live version I've heard...it's a Bob/Chris duet.

It's a shame about the sound quality. That bootleg has one of the most unique Fleetwood Mac set lists I've ever seen.

OK cool, thanks, I'll give it a try! :)

John

Yeah...that's what is so frustrating about that one.

Perhaps you can upload it as a torrent file?? Not sure how that works.:shrug: Recently I have only been downloading torrent files with the search engines isohunt.com, thepiratebay.org and torrentspy.com. I use Azureus as downloading software. I just tried to upload a video file, but can't find it when I look for it. Maybe somebody else can give you more information on that.

Anyway, I hope somehow us lot that are interested wish we can get a hold of it.

BTW How does this Rapidshare and Yousendit work for those who want to download?

I hope I can get more guidance too. I tried Yousendit but it said the file can't be bigger than 1 MB & the MPEG I created for "The bigger the love" was 175 MB so no doubt the 1973 one will be twice as big (since there's 2 songs). Do I use DVD Shrink to shrink the MPEG? I'm sure there'll be software I can shrink it with but I don't know if it'll let me shrink it from 175 to 1! Any ideas on this I'm happy to try but the ideas need to be explained as well. :)

John

NO!! I have posted stuff on yousendit before that has been over 100 MB! You can do it...it will let you!

Hell yes! That's exactly the song I had in mind when I posted.

Well OK, I'll give it a try again tonight but I let it run for 2 hours last night (& I have DSL, not dial up) & it still hadn't connected/attached/sent/whatever.

John

175 MB is a huge file, so it very well might take more than two hours to upload to their server. Maybe let it go overnight. Start uploading when you go to bed and it will surely be finished by the time you wake up.

Say this '74 recording from Chicago people are talking about. I have one that SAYS it's 11-8-74 New York. Is this the same one? because mine sounds pretty good I think.