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Nicks Fan 03-10-2019 01:48 PM

Kristen Speaks again calls Mick A Coward
 
https://twitter.com/KBChrush/status/...SIqOpZVxMEYIGw

Nicks Fan 03-10-2019 01:51 PM

@MickFleetwood you are so busy telling the world how “unhappy” the band was. It would have been nice if you told Lindsey that. He’s still wondering what happened. You are a dishonest coward and I have zero respect for you.That goes for all of you FM,you really suck @fleetwoodmac

elle 03-10-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicks Fan (Post 1250168)

thanks. i posted it in Rumours forum since it's about the band, specifically in Mick interviews thread considering it looks like she's replying to Mick's bs in those interviews and then providing us with some additional info.

but it's probably good to discuss it here too. i'm just sad Bucks have to go through this crap, like they don't have already enough real health problems to deal with.



sleepless child 03-10-2019 04:00 PM

I'd like to know exactly what they were "unhappy" about.

elle 03-10-2019 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepless child (Post 1250177)
I'd like to know exactly what they were "unhappy" about.

apparently Lindsey would like to know that too.

and also, who all was unhappy. because Mick implied it was all of them including Lindsey being unhappy too. seems that's news to Lindsey.

lovethemac1 03-10-2019 04:14 PM

Goodness, I love Kristen so much, she is just fierce and awesome and protective and kind and honest.

That FM group of a**hats are going to get their comeuppance one of these days. They are the most lying, cruel, idiotic group I have ever seen. Karma is a b***h.

I used to be mad at St$vie and M$ck. Now, I get more and more mad at all 4 of them.......because at any point, any one of them could have stopped this cruel act of bitterness. Chris and John are just as annoyingly complicit with this behavior, and could have reached out to him (and more than Christine's one stupid email, and John's pathetic quick reply to Lindsey's email) or defended him. Shame on you John, after Lindsey defended you. Shame on all 4 of you.

Notice how none of them ever state what actually was the "issue" or the "unhappiness?"

Karma, all 4 of you, just watch over your shoulder for Karma.

Storms123 03-10-2019 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepless child (Post 1250177)
I'd like to know exactly what they were "unhappy" about.

I think we all would like to know the root of this unhappiness. I’ve said it before, and been slammed for it, the lack of promotion around this incarnation is pretty obvious. They are playing MSG this week, normally we would seen them on the Today show or Good Morning America around their NYC dates ( and yes I am waiting for someone to respond with “it’s sold out why bother”) but it was sold out in 2015 when Christine came back and they played the Today show. Mick/ Stevie/John/Chris, you have an actual Heartbreaker and the lead singer of Crowded House, isn’t that as big as one of the Rumours 5 coming back, or leaving???? But when you need to tell the tale about why he left, and 12 months in none of you are on the same page....well maybe live television isn’t the way to go.

bwboy 03-10-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1250181)
I think we all would like to know the root of this unhappiness. I’ve said it before, and been slammed for it, the lack of promotion around this incarnation is pretty obvious. They are playing MSG this week, normally we would seen them on the Today show or Good Morning America around their NYC dates ( and yes I am waiting for someone to respond with “it’s sold out why bother”) but it was sold out in 2015 when Christine came back and they played the Today show. Mick/ Stevie/John/Chris, you have an actual Heartbreaker and the lead singer of Crowded House, isn’t that as big as one of the Rumours 5 coming back, or leaving???? But when you need to tell the tale about why he left, and 12 months in none of you are on the same page....well maybe live television isn’t the way to go.

I believe you're referring to the Summer Concert Series that both the Today show and Good Morning America have. Since this is March, Fleetwood Mac wouldn't perform an outdoor show. A very simple explanation.

I also don't think FM is afraid to appear on live television, especially Today or GMA. None of the morning shows would ask hard questions, I mean those chat shows are not known for their investigative journalism.

Storms123 03-10-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1250182)
I believe you're referring to the Summer Concert Series that both the Today show and Good Morning America have. Since this is March, Fleetwood Mac wouldn't perform an outdoor show. A very simple explanation.

I also don't think FM is afraid to appear on live television, especially Today or GMA. None of the morning shows would ask hard questions, I mean those chat shows are not known for their investigative journalism.

It's not always a summer concert series. In 2014 they played in October. In 2003 they played in April and Stevie rocked a full length fur to keep her warm. Other artists, Stevie included, have play indoors at the studio. As far as hard hitting investigative journalism, these anchors have interviewed presidents and dictators, I think they could snuff out a line or 2 (no pun intended actually) from this group. I belleve they are avoiding any kind of press around this tour. They aren't willing to publicly get called on the carpet for the decisions they made, so a random weird soundbite here and there is what they are tossing out. If you go back and look at any press around any of their tours before 2018, this tour is decidedly different.

Street_Dreamer 03-10-2019 06:41 PM

Any real journalist would be hammering the question of why Lindsey was fired.

Storms123 03-10-2019 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1250186)
Any real journalist would be hammering the question of why Lindsey was fired.

Exactly---I think they are deliberately
avoiding having to answer the question in a forum that cannot be scripted/edited out.
The Anthony Mason interview was a DISASTER. Their appearance on Ellen was hideous. Sound bites given out to the NY Post, or Newsday---that will suffice for now. And I am sure the same will happen when they hit EU and NZ/AUS--perhaps in NZ/AUS Neil will actually give a proper interview. He and Mike have actually been very respectful of the situation.

cbBen 03-10-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1250186)
Any real journalist would be hammering the question of why Lindsey was fired.

That's not their job. They are promotions people in disguise.

cbBen 03-10-2019 07:58 PM

Whatever the case before, they certainly can't do broadcast interviews now. It would just remind everyone that the guy they fired just had a heart attack. Even if nothing about it is said, there's no avoiding those optics.

BigAl84 03-10-2019 08:27 PM

Funny how Mick Fleetwood always said they were the most poorly run band in the business, he left off the second part....run by the the most terrible people in the business.

Christine though, so so low. They just worked together and Lindsey made such an effort to welcome her back into the fold of the band. She just stands by and acts like she was a victim because she wasn't steering the ship that decided to throw lindsey overboard.

Screw all 4 of them.

Storms123 03-10-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1250197)
Funny how Mick Fleetwood always said they were the most poorly run band in the business, he left off the second part....run by the the most terrible people in the business.

Christine though, so so low. They just worked together and Lindsey made such an effort to welcome her back into the fold of the band. She just stands by and acts like she was a victim because she wasn't steering the ship that decided to throw lindsey overboard.

Screw all 4 of them.

Agreed--so many have given her a pass here. Poor helpless Christine. I can't do that. She could have spoken up. I think she has bigger b@lls then the rest of them. They all did this. ALL OF THEM.

michelej1 03-10-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1250204)
Agreed--so many have given her a pass here. Poor helpless Christine. I can't do that. She could have spoken up. I think she has bigger b@lls then the rest of them. They all did this. ALL OF THEM.

And really, as one of the front people, what she says carries more weight than what John and Mick say in the eyes of bean counters like Azoff.

Plus, it distresses me that John has stopped talking. I want to know him. I feel that I knew him more in the early days. I don’t now, but I would like to speculate that Christine planting her feet against the ouster would have made him stand up against Mick too.

On the other hand, I still do not know what he meant when he said that Christina was fragile. Maybe there is something going on with her that we don’t know about, aside from her just being two-faced and horrible.

David was saying he lost 80% of respect for the McVie’s and I thought quantifying it was good. I can just say I still have reluctant feelings of love for them that I cannot shrug, even though I want to. The warmest feeling I could ever have for Mick and Stevie is apathy. I never really liked Mick, but I was once enchanted by Stevie and a great fan of her songs, even up to IYD (but not the horrid Cheaper than Free). I saw more than 100 of her shows. Now, only venom remains, after the glitter fades.

button-lip 03-10-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1250197)
Funny how Mick Fleetwood always said they were the most poorly run band in the business, he left off the second part....run by the the most terrible people in the business.

Christine though, so so low. They just worked together and Lindsey made such an effort to welcome her back into the fold of the band. She just stands by and acts like she was a victim because she wasn't steering the ship that decided to throw lindsey overboard.

Screw all 4 of them.

Christine looking the other way is probably more disgusting than Stevie. Nah, they're both nasty people.

Screw them all.

Storms123 03-10-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1250213)
Christine looking the other way is probably more disgusting than Stevie. Nah, they're both nasty people.

Screw them all.

They are all disgusting. The tour will end. Mike and Neil will go back to their real jobs, because they are artists that want to create. I don't think Stevie wants that, and Christine won't without an external influence (Lindsey, or maybe Mike or Neil now...theres so much love there ya know) and these 4 people will have to look at themselves in the mirror. The reflection looking back will be grim.

lovethemac1 03-10-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1250204)
Agreed--so many have given her a pass here. Poor helpless Christine. I can't do that. She could have spoken up. I think she has bigger b@lls then the rest of them. They all did this. ALL OF THEM.

It has taken me a while, but I agree now with you fully. I was so willing to give Chris and John a pass, because I thought there was no way they could have done something so cruel. But I will admit that I was wrong, and it's because they have shown no compassion since this all happened, and with Lindsey's health crisis. The f*****g least they could have done was contact him after that. But f*****g crickets is all the guy is getting.

Awful, they are awful people.

button-lip 03-10-2019 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1250217)
They are all disgusting. The tour will end. Mike and Neil will go back to their real jobs, because they are artists that want to create. I don't think Stevie wants that, and Christine won't without an external influence (Lindsey, or maybe Mike or Neil now...theres so much love there ya know) and these 4 people will have to look at themselves in the mirror. The reflection looking back will be grim.

Mike and Neil won’t waste their time on Christine. Only Lindsey was willing to work on her music.

FM has become a job for all of them, no matter how much they want to sell the perfect family image. Once this tour is over they will all go their own way. And Stevie will be left alone with her thoughts....

michelej1 03-11-2019 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1250224)
Mike and Neil won’t waste their time on Christine. Only Lindsey was willing to work on her music.

FM has become a job for all of them, no matter how much they want to sell the perfect family image. Once this tour is over they will all go their own way. And Stevie will be left alone with her thoughts....

Will be left alone with Karen and her dogs and all the young people who praise her as the icon and legend that inspired them, insuring that her swollen head will never reduce in size.

Phil 03-11-2019 09:07 AM

Kristen is such a class act ain't she? What an elegant mouth the gold-digger has on her. Goodness gracious, do you guys truly believe she's anything but a hoe??

lovethemac1 03-11-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1250241)
Kristen is such a class act ain't she? What an elegant mouth the gold-digger has on her. Goodness gracious, do you guys truly believe she's anything but a hoe??

My bet is she's a far better person than you are...................with far better grammar.

michelej1 03-11-2019 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1250241)
Kristen is such a class act ain't she? What an elegant mouth the gold-digger has on her. Goodness gracious, do you guys truly believe she's anything but a hoe??

Please go and find a Luke Perry forum and trash him. Set all of the people who are singing his praises straight. Times up.

The Chain 03-11-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1250241)
Kristen is such a class act ain't she? What an elegant mouth the gold-digger has on her. Goodness gracious, do you guys truly believe she's anything but a hoe??

Hey Stevie:wavey:

:rolleyes:

HomerMcvie 03-11-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1250241)
Kristen is such a class act ain't she? What an elegant mouth the gold-digger has on her. Goodness gracious, do you guys truly believe she's anything but a hoe??

You're a real piece of ****, Phil.

button-lip 03-11-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chain (Post 1250245)
Hey Stevie:wavey:

:rolleyes:

Exactly! Only Stevie can trash Kristen that way. And Karen. Because Stevie says so. :D

button-lip 03-11-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1250231)
Will be left alone with Karen and her dogs and all the young people who praise her as the icon and legend that inspired them, insuring that her swollen head will never reduce in size.

And then, only then, she will probably start thinking about Lindsey and what she did to him.

If only....

dreamsunwind 03-11-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1250241)
Kristen is such a class act ain't she? What an elegant mouth the gold-digger has on her. Goodness gracious, do you guys truly believe she's anything but a hoe??

A gold-digger doesn’t stay married to the same person for 20 years lol.

michelej1 03-11-2019 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1250268)
A gold-digger doesn’t stay married to the same person for 20 years lol.

A lazy gold-digger does.

Ten year mark came round. Her prenup had expired. She could leave and take half of everything, ditch the three bothersome kids and hook up with a hot young stud, but who's got the energy.

Feather Blade 03-11-2019 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1250275)
A lazy gold-digger does.

Ten year mark came round. Her prenup had expired. She could leave and take half of everything, ditch the three bothersome kids and hook up with a hot young stud, but who's got the energy.

Is that a common thing? To have expiration dates on prenup agreements?

michelej1 03-11-2019 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1250277)
Is that a common thing? To have expiration dates on prenup agreements?

Yes, many of them have sunset clauses at 10 years and also have terms that change upon specific events, like the birth of children. I should add that because they live in California, their marriage is treated differently after 10 years, for alimony calculation purposes. That's not true in all states.

singertobe 03-11-2019 04:54 PM

I don't understand why Mick doesn't speak about Lindsey in interviews the way he did during the meet & greet. He seemed to genuinely care when he spoke to us about Lindsey's heart attack. Its almost like he's trying to make himself look bad.

singertobe 03-11-2019 05:02 PM

Y'know what's a good Beatles lyric to sum up how I'm feeling right now?

I'm looking through you, where did you go
I thought I knew you, what did I know
You don't look different, but you have changed
I'm looking through you, you're not the same

dreamsunwind 03-11-2019 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1250275)
A lazy gold-digger does.

Ten year mark came round. Her prenup had expired. She could leave and take half of everything, ditch the three bothersome kids and hook up with a hot young stud, but who's got the energy.

If someone was really a gold-digger I’m sure they’d find the energy especially in the USA where divorce is so incredibly common.

elle 03-11-2019 05:25 PM

why people have the need to trash Lindsey's wife is completely beyond my comprehension.

i could somewhat understand people who were shippers... but Stevie cult seem to really be into trashing her, and that is just weird.

dreamsunwind 03-11-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1250290)
why people have the need to trash Lindsey's wife is completely beyond my comprehension.

i could somewhat understand people who were shippers... but Stevie fans seem to really be into trashing her, and that is just weird.

I don’t get it either nor do I get why Stevie fans even care about her if they all hate/don’t care about Lindsey . She was always so supportive of the band when Lindsey was part of it and seems to be a great mom/wife/horse lady. And the term gold-digger is laced in such ridiculous comical misogyny I can’t believe people still use it.

singertobe 03-11-2019 05:43 PM

Kristen is a wonderful wife indeed. I'm not gonna lie, I do like to read SteviexLindsey fanfics every now and again (provided they're not overtly sexual). But I can't handle the ones that take place after Lindsey's marriage and involve him being a cheater. Kristen is just such a wonderful and supportive wife that, even if its just the fictional world, I can't deal with her being mistreated like that. Its even worse when they villainize her.

David 03-11-2019 05:47 PM

I am trying to read between the lines in Kristen's tweet, but I'm not seeing the answer I'd like. Has anyone else in FM been by to visit Lindsey & Kris since his surgery? Anybody paying a standard-issue sick call?

Kristen doesn't sound as if she wanted any visits. But what about Lindsey himself?

michelej1 03-11-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1250290)
why people have the need to trash Lindsey's wife is completely beyond my comprehension.

i could somewhat understand people who were shippers... but Stevie cult seem to really be into trashing her, and that is just weird.

I remember when Stella was born. People were saying that Kristen was standing in the wings taunting Stevie with the baby and upsetting her. And they faulted Kristen for not having headphones on the baby too. It was pretty hilarious.

Kristen has given me many a laugh. The pears. The 3000 clashing picture frames in her parlor. The spy hat and sunglasses she was wearing when she and Lindsey were ... I don't even know where the heck they were, any longer. But it was one of the funniest threads here I can recall.

But she's been stalwart and true and it made me go back and rethink When She Comes Down, because you know I had something flip to say about it when it came out. I'm just very thankful to have her.


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