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mitzo 03-18-2024 07:16 PM

Stevie goes to Europe
 
Stevie has announced dates in July in London, Manchester, Glasgow, Dublin, Antwerp, and Amsterdam.

UnwindedDreams 03-19-2024 04:43 AM

Wow. This is the most exciting thing she's done since the Songs From The Vault Tour. Maybe Australia and New Zealand will follow.

Could new music be released before this tour?

secret love 03-19-2024 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292905)
Wow. This is the most exciting thing she's done since the Songs From The Vault Tour. Maybe Australia and New Zealand will follow.

Could new music be released before this tour?

Could be, maybe a new single or an EP of new songs. But I doubt she has a whole album of new music in the can ready to go. Would be cool if she came to Sydney!

mtkad 03-19-2024 10:48 AM

As expected - not cheap! Ł86.85 - Ł234.40 for standard tickets in Glasgow. On balance - not for me. I'm sure a lot of people will have fun, but I wouldn't be happy paying that amount for a show (likely) not too dissimilar to her Hyde Park 2017 support slot. Still, if you're a diehard or haven't been before - Enjoy!

UnwindedDreams 03-19-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1292906)
Could be, maybe a new single or an EP of new songs. But I doubt she has a whole album of new music in the can ready to go. Would be cool if she came to Sydney!

It has been 5 years since Fleetwood Mac has played Sydney and Stevie played Australia and New Zealand on her 2011 and 2017 tours so I think she’ll end up in Australia in July or August! Please God she’ll actually do hits like Talk To Me, I Can’t Wait, and Rooms On Fire!

sue 03-19-2024 01:40 PM

Not for me…it will be super expensive..
Maybe upto 10 years ago I would have considered going to see her..
but not theses days
Same old playlist ….same old stories….same old frocks.

UnwindedDreams 03-19-2024 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292917)
Not for me…it will be super expensive..
Maybe upto 10 years ago I would have considered going to see her..
but not theses days
Same old playlist ….same old stories….same old frocks.

Did you see the On With The Show Tour in 2015, sue?

This show might be worth going to. Even though she's been on the same tour since 2022, I have a feeling she's going to mix it up for the European dates since she hasn't toured there since 1989.

sue 03-19-2024 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292922)
Did you see the On With The Show Tour in 2015, sue?

This show might be worth going to. Even though she's been on the same tour since 2022, I have a feeling she's going to mix it up for the European dates since she hasn't toured there since 1989.

I did see On with the Show….in Leeds. (My husband comes from Halifax so we made a trip of it)
Great small venue.
Yes you re right she might mix it up…I hope she does.
Are you thinking of going ?

UnwindedDreams 03-19-2024 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292925)
I did see On with the Show….in Leeds. (My husband comes from Halifax so we made a trip of it)
Great small venue.
Yes you re right she might mix it up…I hope she does.
Are you thinking of going ?

Yes to London! I would like to have seen Fleetwood Mac in that arena. I listened to a recording of a wonderful Bruce Springsteen concert there from 2013.

Was the Fleetwood Mac show there very good?

Jondalar 03-19-2024 08:39 PM

She is like 76. This will probably be her last tour

HomerMcvie 03-20-2024 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1292927)
She is like 76. This will probably be her last tour

She's addicted to it. She'll go until she can't. It's her "family":wavey:

sue 03-20-2024 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292926)
Yes to London! I would like to have seen Fleetwood Mac in that arena. I listened to a recording of a wonderful Bruce Springsteen concert there from 2013.

Was the Fleetwood Mac show there very good?

The show was very good very professional great sound.
I had seen video of previous shows so I knew what was coming…..but my husband who is not a big fan thought even 8 years ago they were going through the motions.
We sat on Lindsey’s side so that was great…we missed Silver Springs the last encore song ( we had to race to catch last bus back to Halifax) ..
So I cried all the way back….
Would I go and see them …yes I would, will I go and see Stevie…No.

UnwindedDreams 03-20-2024 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292930)
The show was very good very professional great sound.
I had seen video of previous shows so I knew what was coming…..but my husband who is not a big fan thought even 8 years ago they were going through the motions.
We sat on Lindsey’s side so that was great…we missed Silver Springs the last encore song ( we had to race to catch last bus back to Halifax) ..
So I cried all the way back….
Would I go and see them …yes I would, will I go and see Stevie…No.

That's fair. I don't think this will be her last tour. Darlene Love, Debbie Harry, Dionne Warwick, Cher, Diana Ross, Gladys Knight, Patti Smith, and Patti LaBelle still tour and they're in their LATE 70s or 80s. It may be her final European Tour but I'd bet she'll do Isle of Wight or Glastonbury before she retires as a one-off.

Silver Springs is great but that's probably the best example of going through the motions :laugh: I think Christine stopped playing Songbird on the Europe leg because her hand was hurting her. :(
Did you go to Wembley Stadium for the 2019 concert?

sue 03-20-2024 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292932)
That's fair. I don't think this will be her last tour. Darlene Love, Debbie Harry, Dionne Warwick, Cher, Diana Ross, Gladys Knight, Patti Smith, and Patti LaBelle still tour and they're in their LATE 70s or 80s. It may be her final European Tour but I'd bet she'll do Isle of Wight or Glastonbury before she retires as a one-off.

Silver Springs is great but that's probably the best example of going through the motions :laugh: I think Christine stopped playing Songbird on the Europe leg because her hand was hurting her. :(
Did you go to Wembley Stadium for the 2019 concert?

Christine did play Songbird July 2015 …Lindsey came out to accompany her.
No I didn’t go to Wembley 2019…I wouldn’t want to see them without Lindsey (well not after what happened in 2018).

I can’t see Stevie doing Glastonbury…I would like to be wrong.
She would fit the Legends spot on the Sunday afternoon…Shania Twain is doing it this year..but I think Stevie would ask too large a fee.
Yusuf/Cat Stevens did it last year and was wonderful…

BigAl84 03-20-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292932)
That's fair. I don't think this will be her last tour. Darlene Love, Debbie Harry, Dionne Warwick, Cher, Diana Ross, Gladys Knight, Patti Smith, and Patti LaBelle still tour and they're in their LATE 70s or 80s.

What sets most of them apart is they still have artistic integrity.

UnwindedDreams 03-20-2024 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1292936)
What sets most of them apart is they still have artistic integrity.

If she tours Europe, Australia, and New Zealand this year and does the Free Fallin/Buffalo Springfield setlist, that would really be depressing for me as a fan. She should be taking NEW MUSIC around the world like she did with In Your Dreams… I still don’t think 24 Karat Gold was a tour for that album.

Maybe Mick Fleetwood will join her on tour.

SteveMacD 03-20-2024 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1292929)
She's addicted to it. She'll go until she can't. It's her "family":wavey:

I just had a flashback to Patti Caldwell.

Macfan4life 03-21-2024 06:41 AM

Since OSOTM was her highest charting solo album in the UK and Europe, she should play the entire album for them.
;)

UnwindedDreams 03-21-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1292953)
Since OSOTM was her highest charting solo album in the UK and Europe, she should play the entire album for them.
;)

Two Kinds of Love with her vocal coach or Waddy! Did it chart at #3 in The United Kingdom?

BrownEyedGirl26 03-22-2024 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292940)
If she tours Europe, Australia, and New Zealand this year and does the Free Fallin/Buffalo Springfield setlist, that would really be depressing for me as a fan. She should be taking NEW MUSIC around the world like she did with In Your Dreams… I still don’t think 24 Karat Gold was a tour for that album.

Maybe Mick Fleetwood will join her on tour.

Considering that this might be the last chance we get to see her live, and might be her 'Swan Song', it would really be nice if she realises that, and can fine tune this tour so that she is remembered with the respect and admiration that she deserves.

I will, say this about all remaining 'Fireflies'. Also, please, recreate the original 'Rumours' American Indianeske 'Gold Dust Women' without the 'Crackhead dance'. This is distressing to watch, really it is. Just my opinion of course! Amen!🤗

HomerMcvie 03-22-2024 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26 (Post 1292983)
I will, say this about all remaining 'Fireflies'. Also, please, recreate the original 'Rumours' American Indianeske 'Gold Dust Women' without the 'Crackhead dance'. This is distressing to watch, really it is. Just my opinion of course! Amen!🤗

I prey to my god that NO reunion ever happens. Anything beyond Lindsey getting fired, and Christine dying is just pathetic. Please let it be over.

UnwindedDreams 03-22-2024 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26 (Post 1292983)
Considering that this might be the last chance we get to see her live, and might be her 'Swan Song', it would really be nice if she realises that, and can fine tune this tour so that she is remembered with the respect and admiration that she deserves.

I will, say this about all remaining 'Fireflies'. Also, please, recreate the original 'Rumours' American Indianeske 'Gold Dust Women' without the 'Crackhead dance'. This is distressing to watch, really it is. Just my opinion of course! Amen!��

I hope so too. My opinion is that she doesn't identify as an artist anymore but more as an evening entertainer. I'm with you on Gold Dust Woman... that shaking head "dance" is actually offensive. What if there are addicts or recovering addicts in the audience?

Also I was bummed Fireflies was not on the 2018-2019 Tour setlist...doesn't matter that Lindsey wasn't on the tour, they still sang 3 of his songs, they could have sung Fireflies.

sue 03-22-2024 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292987)
I hope so too. My opinion is that she doesn't identify as an artist anymore but more as an evening entertainer. I'm with you on Gold Dust Woman... that shaking head "dance" is actually offensive. What if there are addicts or recovering addicts in the audience?

Also I was bummed Fireflies was not on the 2018-2019 Tour setlist...doesn't matter that Lindsey wasn't on the tour, they still sang 3 of his songs, they could have sung Fireflies.

That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

HomerMcvie 03-22-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292988)
That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

Because $he's not the BOSS. You criticize Mama AND YOU'RE GONE.

UnwindedDreams 03-22-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292988)
That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

She told her audience every tour she asks Waddy if Gold Dust Woman can be dropped and he says No. I doubt that, she’s the boss and she loves doing those bizarre shakes that get the crowd going. GDW could be 7 minutes top live and she could do another song!

BigAl84 03-22-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292988)
That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone …in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never said…
that dance you do it’s bad, real bad.

We all know why nobody spoke up!!! You wind up kicked out of the band. She's such an ego maniac she has no interest in the bands opinion. Plain and simple.

BigAl84 03-22-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1292998)
She told her audience every tour she asks Waddy if Gold Dust Woman can be dropped and he says No. I doubt that, she’s the boss and she loves doing those bizarre shakes that get the crowd going. GDW could be 7 minutes top live and she could do another song!

She's all about the big numbers that get the big audience response. She's continued to exploit Free Falling because it's one giant sing along that goes over really well. Now she'll exploit Christine's death for the next five years to pull on everyone's heart strings during landslide - making everyone forget just how overdone that song had become since 1997. Plus she's incapable of thinking of a different way to pay tribute to Christine, the lowest common denominator, the most obvious choice of all time is to use Landslide. That's all she gravitates towards these days. The most boring, expected, status quo decisions. But the entertainment writers love the nostalgic chatty grandma schtick that she's leaned so heavily into...

sue 03-22-2024 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1292999)
We all know why nobody spoke up!!! You wind up kicked out of the band. She's such an ego maniac she has no interest in the bands opinion. Plain and simple.

Haha…the real reason Lindsey was fired…
Not smirking, or chatting to Christine…No
He told her …your bum looks big when you do the artistic Crackhead dance.

BigAl84 03-22-2024 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1293014)
Haha…the real reason Lindsey was fired…
Not smirking, or chatting to Christine…No
He told her …your bum looks big when you do the artistic Crackhead dance.

You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!!! :]:]:]

sue 03-22-2024 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1293019)
You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!!! :]:]:]

Too true..my husband has 28 Bob cds and 7 old vinyls.
So Bob is God…

HomerMcvie 03-22-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1293028)
Too true..my husband has 28 Bob cds and 7 old vinyls.
So Bob is God…

He can listen to 35 albums of a man that sings worse than $tevie? That's a strong man you've got there. ;)

BrownEyedGirl26 03-22-2024 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1292988)
That stupid stupid dance during Gold dust woman was toe cringing embarrassing..
I never understood why someone Â…in the band, management, lighting bloke just someone, never saidÂ…
that dance you do itÂ’s bad, real bad.

I cringe and, also, think about the 'casual fan' who doesn't know about the drugs and the 'Go Insane' time-line in her life. They must be thinking, what the heck is this all about?:shrug:
I also feel bad about the recovered addicts that just want to hear 'Dreams', 'Landslide', 'Sara', 'Sisters Of The Moon', or literally anything other than watch this! It disconnects her from her audience, instead of connecting with them. Please recreate the original Rumours version of 'Gold Dust Woman' with the beautifully haunting atmospheric American Indian, eske sound, that we love.

sue 03-23-2024 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1293030)
He can listen to 35 albums of a man that sings worse than $tevie? That's a strong man you've got there. ;)

Every Saturday morning he would say..(as if it were a surprise)..
“Think I’m going to have a Bob morning”

UnwindedDreams 03-23-2024 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1293000)
She's all about the big numbers that get the big audience response. She's continued to exploit Free Falling because it's one giant sing along that goes over really well. Now she'll exploit Christine's death for the next five years to pull on everyone's heart strings during landslide - making everyone forget just how overdone that song had become since 1997. Plus she's incapable of thinking of a different way to pay tribute to Christine, the lowest common denominator, the most obvious choice of all time is to use Landslide. That's all she gravitates towards these days. The most boring, expected, status quo decisions. But the entertainment writers love the nostalgic chatty grandma schtick that she's leaned so heavily into...

This is a really well thought out point. You're right. With the video wall behind her, she could do Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You, Sara or even Crystal!
Free Fallin' has been played every show since October 2018. Please give it up.

BigAl84 03-23-2024 04:14 PM

I hate to drone on about this stuff, but it's her really annoying combination of super lazy decisions yet extremely calculated. That zaps any sincerity out of it, for me personally. She knows Landslide is a big, emotional, casual-fan crowd favorite. So how do we amp it up yet another notch? Tie Christine's death into the mix. Super gross, in my opinion. I'm surprised she doesn't have a little spritzer water bottle in her pocket to mist her face with for some extra theatrics.

I wouldn't feel this way if she would have discontinued the Free Falling tribute by the next tour she did following Tom's passing. The fact that it's still there 7 years later proves it's less and less about Tom every day and more about wanting a schmaltzy schtick moment at the end of her show that completely lets her off the hook.

I'm sure by this time next year the Christine stories will be even more exaggerated and completely skewed from reality. But don't expect the photo montage to be updated with different photos, that would be too much work for this well oiled roadshow carousel of hitz. End of rant.

BrownEyedGirl26 03-23-2024 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1293047)
I hate to drone on about this stuff, but it's her really annoying combination of super lazy decisions yet extremely calculated. That zaps any sincerity out of it, for me personally. She knows Landslide is a big, emotional, casual-fan crowd favorite. So how do we amp it up yet another notch? Tie Christine's death into the mix. Super gross, in my opinion. I'm surprised she doesn't have a little spritzer water bottle in her pocket to mist her face with for some extra theatrics.

I wouldn't feel this way if she would have discontinued the Free Falling tribute by the next tour she did following Tom's passing. The fact that it's still there 7 years later proves it's less and less about Tom every day and more about wanting a schmaltzy schtick moment at the end of her show that completely lets her off the hook.

I'm sure by this time next year the Christine stories will be even more exaggerated and completely skewed from reality. But don't expect the photo montage to be updated with different photos, that would be too much work for this well oiled roadshow carousel of hitz. End of rant.

Hi BigAl84,

Is there any way, we can make suggestions and let her know what is best for her, going forward, so we can all stop droning on and on about her song and costume choices, etc...? I know I'm dreaming but I can't help but wonder If only.....!:shrug:

BigAl84 03-23-2024 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26 (Post 1293053)
Hi BigAl84,

Is there any way, we can make suggestions and let her know what is best for her, going forward, so we can all stop droning on and on about her song and costume choices, etc...? I know I'm dreaming but I can't help but wonder If only.....!:shrug:

I’m not one to tell somebody what’s best for them, but I do wonder if she has any idea how she’s alienated a huge chunk of her long-term fanbase.

HomerMcvie 03-24-2024 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26 (Post 1293053)
Hi BigAl84,

Is there any way, we can make suggestions and let her know what is best for her, going forward, so we can all stop droning on and on about her song and costume choices, etc...? I know I'm dreaming but I can't help but wonder If only.....!:shrug:

BigAl is allowed his opinion just like anybody else. Why do you try to stifle it?

UnwindedDreams 03-24-2024 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1293047)
I wouldn't feel this way if she would have discontinued the Free Falling tribute by the next tour she did following Tom's passing. The fact that it's still there 7 years later proves it's less and less about Tom every day and more about wanting a schmaltzy schtick moment at the end of her show that completely lets her off the hook.

Free Fallin' should have been played on her Australia and New Zealand 2017 Songs From The Vault Tour it took place from November 1 through November 25, 2017. If Mike Campbell's work as a Heartbreaker or songwriter had to be showcased on the 2018-2019 Fleetwood Mac Tour, they could have done Stop Draggin' My Heart Around with Neil on vocals or Mike since Mike's singing voice sounds like Tom's, Freedom from Behind The Mask, Whole Lotta Trouble, or Blue Denim. It is what it is. Behind The Mask Tour setlist blew the 2018-2019 Tour away.

BrownEyedGirl26 03-24-2024 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1293055)
BigAl is allowed his opinion just like anybody else. Why do you try to stifle it?

Hi HomerMcvie,

I'm not trying to stifle BigAl's opinion. On the contrary, I agree with them!:xoxo: I'm sorry, if it doesn't sound that way to you!:sorry:


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