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Street_Dreamer 12-30-2022 06:18 PM

Lindsey is working on a new album
 
I don't know how to post the links to show up but he mentions working on a new album in the third tweet.

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/stat...61809436012545

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/stat...61814146220035

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/stat...61815467429890

Moz 12-30-2022 07:30 PM

Thanks for sharing. Glad to hear he's doing better after the cancellations in the autumn.

HomerMcvie 12-30-2022 11:29 PM

And he said that he was the sick one during the tour.

UnwindedDreams 12-31-2022 12:50 AM

I hope the album comes out in the first half of the year. I think he mentioned in Berlin that he started this album before the Europe Tour started.

Macfan4life 12-31-2022 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1280579)
And he said that he was the sick one during the tour.

Yes, he finally acknowledged that. There were all sorts of rumors flying around youtube and the internet about his health. 2022 was such a brutal year for him. He lost 2 close friendships/bandmembers. His tour was delayed but eventually resumed only for everyone to catch Covid. He goes back on the road and his health forces cancellations.
I can only imagine the album that's inside him after surviving the year from hell. Not many artists keep going with a tour when a member of a band passes away during the tour. No matter the obstacles thrown his way, he marched on surviving his own health scare only to be confronted with the death of Chris.



.......it's always darkest before the dawn

sue 12-31-2022 07:17 AM

A new Album will be the best news.
And personal experience always makes for good writing.

I just love the phrases he uses,
“This year’s polarity of positives and negatives …etc …”

sleepless child 12-31-2022 01:37 PM

I wasn't sure if it was his health that was the reason for cancelling, but I see now that it was. Poor guy, what a horrible last few years. I am so glad he is making a new album. I am sure it will very interesting. He has alot to speak about. His marriage, Fleetwood Mac, Stevie and the death of Brett and Chris, plus his own health issues he has faced these last few years. I am glad to see him still percevering. I know we won't see any Fleetwood Mac activity in 2023, with his working on the new album and Stevie doing her stadium tour, but I had hoped for a concert for Christine. Maybe when Lindsey goes out on the road again, he will have Mick as his drummer. I feel John has retired and probably won't perform anymore. It is just so bittersweet.

elle 01-01-2023 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1280574)
I don't know how to post the links to show up but he mentions working on a new album in the third tweet.

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/stat...61809436012545

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/stat...61814146220035

https://twitter.com/LBuckingham/stat...61815467429890


elle 01-01-2023 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1280584)
Yes, he finally acknowledged that. There were all sorts of rumors flying around youtube and the internet about his health. 2022 was such a brutal year for him. He lost 2 close friendships/bandmembers. His tour was delayed but eventually resumed only for everyone to catch Covid. He goes back on the road and his health forces cancellations.
I can only imagine the album that's inside him after surviving the year from hell. Not many artists keep going with a tour when a member of a band passes away during the tour. No matter the obstacles thrown his way, he marched on surviving his own health scare only to be confronted with the death of Chris.



.......it's always darkest before the dawn

yes, people keep making up and posting whatever first comes to their mind, without having any actual clue. posters on here included. i was just reading that thread on Destiny Rules in Rumours forum and it's unbelievable the fables people come up with and try to push as gospel truth :laugh::shrug:

David 01-02-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1280606)
yes, people keep making up and posting whatever first comes to their mind, without having any actual clue. posters on here included. i was just reading that thread on Destiny Rules in Rumours forum and it's unbelievable the fables people come up with and try to push as gospel truth :laugh::shrug:

Too many RUMOURS with Fleetwood Mac. Get it? Haha. See what I did there? Happy New Year, ledgers.

HomerMcvie 01-02-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1280625)
Too many RUMOURS with Fleetwood Mac. Get it? Haha. See what I did there? Happy New Year, ledgers.

You're quite the prankster.

SteveMacD 01-02-2023 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1280606)
yes, people keep making up and posting whatever first comes to their mind, without having any actual clue.

Like how getting fired from a band leads to heart attacks?

aleuzzi 01-03-2023 01:02 AM

If a new album comes, I’ll buy it. I’ll always have room for Lindsey’s solo stuff. But damn, I was really praying for BuckVie 2. I’m just so sad...

BigAl84 01-03-2023 10:29 AM

I too was holding out for a BuckVie II. It's so sad thinking about her leaving the band, coming back, and then departing for what will be forever.

SteveMacD 01-03-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280646)
I too was holding out for a BuckVie II. It's so sad thinking about her leaving the band, coming back, and then departing for what will be forever.

On the one hand, it’s a little disappointing that LBCM was the only new album when the possibilities seemed endless. A lot of what could have beens. Another Rumours band album, another LBCM album, an album with Finn and Campbell, and even a blues album with Mick, John, Rick, and Mike.

However, when I think back to when ITM was somewhat of a miracle, an album and three tours over the past eight years was a blessing. The last eleven years were quite the ride and while we all wish there had been more, her return, at least for me, gave a proper sense closure for Fleetwood Mac.

UnwindedDreams 01-03-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280655)
On the one hand, it’s a little disappointing that LBCM was the only new album when the possibilities seemed endless. A lot of what could have beens. Another Rumours band album, another LBCM album, an album with Finn and Campbell, and even a blues album with Mick, John, Rick, and Mike.

However, when I think back to when ITM was somewhat of a miracle, an album and three tours over the past eight years was a blessing. The last eleven years were quite the ride and while we all wish there had been more, her return, at least for me, gave a proper sense closure for Fleetwood Mac.

I raise a glass to this.

But, I see the last tour as a stain on the band's legacy. Without Lindsey, Rick, and Billy on the tour, I feel Jeremy Spencer should have been a special guest. The Eagles did it right with their 40th Anniversary Tour by bringing Bernie Leadon as a special guest and The Stones did it for their 50th with Mick Taylor.

I like Mike and Neil. They were fine performers at my shows. But they had no hand in the creation of the Fleetwood Mac music they were playing. I wish Chris' last tour featured an all FM setlist.

On With The Show is how I'll remember the end of Fleetwood Mac.

elle 01-03-2023 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1280625)
Too many RUMOURS with Fleetwood Mac. Get it? Haha. See what I did there? Happy New Year, ledgers.

cute :)

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1280640)
I was really praying for BuckVie 2. I’m just so sad...

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280646)
I too was holding out for a BuckVie II. It's so sad thinking about her leaving the band, coming back, and then departing for what will be forever.

same, this. was really hoping BuckVie will get together one more time. they had such big plans in 2018.

but i'm so grateful that they did stand up firmly and pushed out that album. imagine Chris coming back with all her creative juices flowing, only to be completely stopped in her tracks and not getting that last studio album out (because "what's the point?"). and i get it why she ultimately went along with fakewood tour, even though she knew about all the backlash. only 6 months before her passing, she said in her Songbird-promoting interview that what she hopes for is to live some more. somehow she knew, she had a sense.

SteveMacD 01-03-2023 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1280658)
I feel Jeremy Spencer should have been a special guest.

Mick had to beg Jeremy to do the Peter Green tribute and Jeremy wouldn’t let Mick use his name to promote the show.

HomerMcvie 01-04-2023 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280670)
Mick had to beg Jeremy to do the Peter Green tribute and Jeremy wouldn’t let Mick use his name to promote the show.

Too afraid of getting arrested again?

BigAl84 01-04-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280655)
The last eleven years were quite the ride and while we all wish there had been more, her return, at least for me, gave a proper sense closure for Fleetwood Mac.

I felt the same way until somebody ruined it for everyone.

BigAl84 01-04-2023 11:12 AM

Clips from the 2013 tour are still shared on social media frequently to this day. Nearly 10 years later.

The same thing isn't happening for the 2018 tour. The Free Falling cover has become as expected as Stand Back at this point. Nobody will give a sh*t about that tour in 2028. It will be noted by being Christine's last tour and Lindsey's absence.

SteveMacD 01-04-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280683)
Clips from the 2013 tour are still shared on social media frequently to this day. Nearly 10 years later.

The same thing isn't happening for the 2018 tour. The Free Falling cover has become as expected as Stand Back at this point. Nobody will give a sh*t about that tour in 2028. It will be noted by being Christine's last tour and Lindsey's absence.

As a fan of Christine’s blues playing, the 2018 tour brought back something that had been missing since the BTM tour. The way she and Mike traded solos on “Black Magic Woman” and “Tell Me All the Things You Do” was like going back to when Danny and Bob were in the band. It’s telling that her grand return to the stage was “Get Like You Used To Be” with Mick’s blues band and that her final appearance ever was singing “Stop Messin’ Round” at the Peter Green tribute. For whatever reason, that dimension of Christine’s playing always got shelved when Lindsey was in the band, but it was something that was meaningful to Christine. So, for me, 2018 filled in the one missing element of Christine’s return.

cbBen 01-04-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280683)
Clips from the 2013 tour are still shared on social media frequently to this day. Nearly 10 years later.

There is a 2013 segment on FM on Australian television (before Christine's return) that seems to have disappeared from YouTube. Does anyone have it or can anyone find it? Thanks.

David 01-04-2023 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280685)
As a fan of Christine’s blues playing, the 2018 tour brought back something that had been missing since the BTM tour. The way she and Mike traded solos on “Black Magic Woman” and “Tell Me All the Things You Do” was like going back to when Danny and Bob were in the band.

It wasn’t that great. She fiddled a bit with some two-finger tremolo and just kept repeating it. That went on for thirty seconds? I think you got gushy because it was the first time in a long time she had done any blues playing. But it was just a shadow of what she used to do in the old days. (It truly was very minimal — nice to hear it at all, I guess, but let’s not pretend it was a barn burner.)

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It’s telling that her grand return to the stage was “Get Like You Used To Be” with Mick’s blues band and that her final appearance ever was singing “Stop Messin’ Round” at the Peter Green tribute.
I thought for sure she would add “Get Like” to the Mac set list somewhere along the line. Shame it wasn’t. Her “Stop Messin’ ” at the Green concert, despite being a little feeble, was more fun for me than anything she had done in that vein since her piano work on the same song and “Tear It Up” in 1990. She obviously felt really hip to be singing that one with those supporting players. Put a big grin on my face.

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For whatever reason, that dimension of Christine’s playing always got shelved when Lindsey was in the band, but it was something that was meaningful to Christine.
Silly of you to lay that on Lindsey. Chris was still incorporating blues piano in 1975 and 1976 concerts (“Get Like,” the pianet outro on “Spare Me a Little,” “Jumping at Shadows,” B3 on “Oh Well” and “Manalishi,” “Don’t Stop” turn-around blues piano, and even blues-scale fills on “Hypnotized.” And she always played blues B3 on “Oh Well” until Lindsey quit. It was the entire band of that configuration that veered away from doing any blues numbers with prominent keyboard, and it took another configuration in 1987 to bring some of that back, probably thanks to Mick and Rick. The best, fastest blues fills improv she used to do — “World Turning” on both B3 and CP30 — wasn’t equaled again until 1990 with “Stop Messin’.”

That evolution away from doing a little ham on blues piano in the sets wasn’t solely a Lindsey Buckingham thing. Lindsey gets blamed for a lot of weirdness. Why blame him any more than Stevie or Mick in 1977/1978/1979/1980. In fact, the only semi-blues they were still doing in those years (as an entire song) was “Oh Well” and that was Lindsey’s decision, as he told Jim Ladd in 1981. Mick, Chris, and John only wanted to play any blues, apparently, when they were waiting for Ray Lindsey to restring and played a little “Jumping at Shadows” in the down time.

SteveMacD 01-04-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1280701)
Silly of you to lay that on Lindsey.

Ah, but I didn’t, hence the “for whatever reason” preface. She also didn’t play any blues songs on her 1984 solo tour. However, once the Rumours lineup was established, any actual blues went away until the 1987 tour.

UnwindedDreams 01-04-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280705)
Ah, but I didn’t, hence the “for whatever reason” preface. She also didn’t play any blues songs on her 1984 solo tour. However, once the Rumours lineup was established, any actual blues went away until the 1987 tour.

The Five didn't play Hypnotized, Station Man, Tell Me All The Things You Do, or Stop Messin'? Or are those not blues? I really don't know.

SteveMacD 01-04-2023 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1280706)
The Five didn't play Hypnotized, Station Man, Tell Me All The Things You Do, or Stop Messin'? Or are those not blues? I really don't know.

Hypnotized, TMATTYD, and Station Man aren’t remotely blues songs and they never played “Stop Messin’ Round.” The only blues songs that lineup played were “Get Like You Used to Be” and “Jumpin’ At Shadows” VERY early on. However, once GLYUTB was dropped for SYLM, that lineup didn’t play any proper blues songs again.

Macfan4life 01-05-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280707)
Hypnotized, TMATTYD, and Station Man aren’t remotely blues songs and they never played “Stop Messin’ Round.” The only blues songs that lineup played were “Get Like You Used to Be” and “Jumpin’ At Shadows” VERY early on. However, once GLYUTB was dropped for SYLM, that lineup didn’t play any proper blues songs again.

Station Man is definitely a blues song. Its not classic cookie cutter blues but has so many bluesy features that its definitely in that camp. Its so bluesy. Even the singing and lyrics are classic, vintage blues.

UnwindedDreams 01-05-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1280717)
Station Man is definitely a blues song. Its not classic cookie cutter blues but has so many bluesy features that its definitely in that camp.

According to setlist.fm, they played Stop Messin Round in 1977 but that site also has Stevie performing at a Michigan Republican Concert in 2008:lol:

BigAl84 01-05-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1280701)
That evolution away from doing a little ham on blues piano in the sets wasn’t solely a Lindsey Buckingham thing. Lindsey gets blamed for a lot of weirdness. Why blame him any more than Stevie or Mick in 1977/1978/1979/1980. In fact, the only semi-blues they were still doing in those years (as an entire song) was “Oh Well” and that was Lindsey’s decision, as he told Jim Ladd in 1981. Mick, Chris, and John only wanted to play any blues, apparently, when they were waiting for Ray Lindsey to restring and played a little “Jumping at Shadows” in the down time.

Somehow after the events of 2018 people started pushing a new narrative that Lindsey Buckingham single-handedly dictated Fleetwood Mac setlists for the past 20 years or that he was the sole decision maker on using any kind of backing tracks dating back to 1997, which we have no documentation of how that decision was made. People just assumed because he uses them in his solo act that he also insisted on using them with Fleetwood Mac, without any proof.

I'm sure Lindsey was also responsible for axing Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden in '03.......

BigAl84 01-05-2023 09:18 AM

I have a very unpopular opinion that the ONLY reason the band ever dipped back into the blues material in '87 and '18 was due to large gaps of material they couldn't do well without Lindsey. The blues material was very convenient material they could fall back on. It worked well with other guitarists/vocalists that translated well on stage with a new lineup. It had nothing to do with any sort of back to our roots mentality etc. If that material was that important to them, they would of kept more of it in the setlist in 2018.

I LOVE their blues material, but they exploit it to fill out gaps in their setlists when key members are not present. It makes for a nice opportunity to showcase their new guitarist(s) without the pressure of covering Buckingham parts.

I also don't believe for a nanosecond that when Stevie wanted to discuss revamping the setlist with Mick in Italy, she was thinking of the pre-75 material. She agrees to a certain amount of it because it gives her a break off stage.

SteveMacD 01-05-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1280717)
Station Man is definitely a blues song. Its not classic cookie cutter blues but has so many bluesy features that its definitely in that camp. Its so bluesy. Even the singing and lyrics are classic, vintage blues.

“Station Man” is almost a prog rock song, not at all blues. The only thing remotely bluesy about “Station Man” is it mentions trains. By that logic, “That’s Alright” is a blues song.

Definitely NOT something they’d ever play on B.B. King’s Bluesville or at a blues festival.

Macfan4life 01-05-2023 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1280725)
“Station Man” is almost a prog rock song, not at all blues. The only thing remotely bluesy about “Station Man” is it mentions trains. By that logic, “That’s Alright” is a blues song.

Definitely NOT something they’d ever play on B.B. King’s Bluesville or at a blues festival.

That's alright is pretty much pure country.

Just the way the opening signing begins Staaaaaaaation Maaaaan. The verses are pure blues. The train has nothing to do with it.
Strange you cant hear the bluesy nature of the song. It fits in the mold of all their songs in that era. The song does snap out of the zone a bit but could never scratch it off the blues list.

bwboy 01-05-2023 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280724)
I have a very unpopular opinion that the ONLY reason the band ever dipped back into the blues material in '87 and '18 was due to large gaps of material they couldn't do well without Lindsey. The blues material was very convenient material they could fall back on. It worked well with other guitarists/vocalists that translated well on stage with a new lineup. It had nothing to do with any sort of back to our roots mentality etc. If that material was that important to them, they would of kept more of it in the setlist in 2018.

I LOVE their blues material, but they exploit it to fill out gaps in their setlists when key members are not present. It makes for a nice opportunity to showcase their new guitarist(s) without the pressure of covering Buckingham parts.

I think you make a compelling point here, one I’d never really thought of before. I do think though that while a big part of playing the pre-Buck/Nicks material was to, like you said, help fill gaps in their concerts, Christine, Mick, and John really enjoyed bringing that material back and performing it with Mike and Neil. It showed on the last tour how much they loved playing those early songs.

SteveMacD 01-05-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1280732)
I think you make a compelling point here, one I’d never really thought of before. I do think though that while a big part of playing the pre-Buck/Nicks material was to, like you said, help fill gaps in their concerts, Christine, Mick, and John really enjoyed bringing that material back and performing it with Mike and Neil. It showed on the last tour how much they loved playing those early songs.

It was also true with Rick Vito, himself an ex-Bluesbreaker and a Peter Green fan.

elle 01-05-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280724)
I have a very unpopular opinion that the ONLY reason the band ever dipped back into the blues material in '87 and '18 was due to large gaps of material they couldn't do well without Lindsey. The blues material was very convenient material they could fall back on. It worked well with other guitarists/vocalists that translated well on stage with a new lineup. It had nothing to do with any sort of back to our roots mentality etc. If that material was that important to them, they would of kept more of it in the setlist in 2018.

I LOVE their blues material, but they exploit it to fill out gaps in their setlists when key members are not present. It makes for a nice opportunity to showcase their new guitarist(s) without the pressure of covering Buckingham parts.

I also don't believe for a nanosecond that when Stevie wanted to discuss revamping the setlist with Mick in Italy, she was thinking of the pre-75 material. She agrees to a certain amount of it because it gives her a break off stage.

that all makes sense.

regarding blues, i am always astonished how Brits managed to basically steal it from the original US blues culture and make it a part of their own sound. of course they also popularized it at the time. but if one really cares about the blues, there are way better places to enjoy it (for way cheaper), and with way better guitar players that nobody even knows about, than overpriced FM cover tour.

BigAl84 01-05-2023 11:53 AM

It's similar to how they started mentioning the revolving door of lineups to somehow spin Lindsey's departure as no big deal, business as usual, we've always been a blues band too.

It just seems like too much of a coincidence that the blues material comes back into play (in a larger way, not a one-off song in a setlist) in almost every instance that Lindsey is absent.

I think it would have been super cool had they carved out a 30-40 minute block of time in the 2018 set to do all pre-75 material, instead of sprinkling it throughout the set. I think the material would have been better presented in a jam session kind of way and probably more appealing to casual fans. That would have meant 30-40 minutes of Stevie being sidelined, which I'm sure wouldn't have gone over well with Stevie's camp and music critics who lean heavily on her presence when writing reviews.

Do we know whose idea it was for Stevie to sing Black Magic Woman?

Note: edited per SteveMacD because he apparently has nothing left to contribute beyond pedantic BS.

elle 01-05-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280737)
That would of meant 30-40 minutes of Stevie being sidelined, which I'm sure wouldn't of gone over well with Stevie's camp and music critics who lean heavily on her presence when writing reviews.

ha, yes it was very amusing to read cookie-cutter "reviews" of the fakewood tour. looked pretty obvious it was just a lazy, paid rehashing of the text served to them by band's marketing. this became even more obvious once the tour moved over to Europe, and over there critics were actually writing their own independent reviews. all of the sudden they stopped reading like a pre-written PR material, and became way less glowing and way more critical.

BigAl84 01-05-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1280740)
ha, yes it was very amusing to read cookie-cutter "reviews" of the fakewood tour. looked pretty obvious it was just a lazy, paid rehashing of the text served to them by band's marketing. this became even more obvious once the tour moved over to Europe, and over there critics were actually writing their own independent reviews. all of the sudden they stopped reading like a pre-written PR material, and became way less glowing and way more critical.

Cookie cutter reviews and half-filled arenas that left promoters scrambling to "paper" the event aka distribute as many free tickets as they could or slash prices. The ticketmaster seating charts on that first leg were brutal. The reviews always made sure to say "nearly sold out" :lol:

And how many reviews called "Free Falling" a highlight of the show? That says everything right there.

SteveMacD 01-05-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1280737)
I think it would of

I think the material would of

That would of

which I'm sure wouldn't of

Not to be that guy, but it’s would’ve, would have, or wouldn’t have.


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