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aleuzzi 07-25-2020 10:55 AM

Peter Green Has Died: July 25, 2020
 
This is very sad news:

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Jim Morrison 07-25-2020 11:50 AM

R.I.P. Peter Green. Thanks for amazing music you left for generations to come....

HomerMcvie 07-25-2020 01:09 PM

I just heard the news, and came here to post.
Rest in peace, Peter. :shocked:

lazy poker 07-25-2020 01:32 PM

. . . what can i say - except that i'm eternally grateful for the music he created and the great inspiration he's always been for my own guitar playing. farewell, my beloved blues brother.

reebokandlace 07-25-2020 04:31 PM

Rest in peace Peter.
Another legend moves on into the next realm.
Safe journey.

nodmod 07-25-2020 05:47 PM

RIP Peter, you set the path and others followed

desertangel 07-25-2020 08:05 PM

Rest Easy Greenie
 
While I am saddened by this news, I am happy Peter Green seemed loved, respected and admired. His touring with the Splinter Group was huge. His life is truly one to be celebrated. His struggles are over and he can rest easy now while his legend lives on in the music he left for us to enjoy forever.

estranged4life 07-25-2020 08:19 PM

RIP Peter Green... :distress:

BombaySapphire3 07-25-2020 08:30 PM

R.I.P. Green God ..a beautiful spirit has flown.

chriskisn 07-25-2020 11:17 PM

Wow, woke up to this news this morning. RIP Peter. :distress:

Karl-Heinz 07-26-2020 02:53 AM

Very sad news
 
RIP,Peter Green.

Thank you for all the joy your Music gave to me.

sleepless child 07-26-2020 10:17 AM

I am glad to see some of the tributes from the industry. It shows he was not forgotten.

LeoL 07-26-2020 02:35 PM

About Peter Green's last project
 
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/watch-...albums-coming/

RIP

LeoL 07-27-2020 06:27 AM

Rosebud Samuels-Greenbaum (Peter Greens daughter)
 
https://wikiinformer.com/rosebud-sam...-wiki-bio-age/

(The picture of Rosebud might not be the right one.)

Rosebud Samuels-Greenbaum Age
Samuels-Greenbaum was born in 1978. She is 42 years old as of 2020.

Rosebud Samuels-Greenbaum Parents
Samuels-Greenbaum is the daughter of the late English rock Singer, Peter Green, and his ex-wife. Jane Samuels. Her parents got married in January 1978 and eventually divorced in 1979.

Rosebud Samuels-Greenbaum Siblings
Samuels-Greenbaum is the only child to Peter Green and Jane Samuels. She does not have any other siblings.

Rosebud Samuels-Greenbaum Husband
Unlike her father, Rosebud has led a rather low profile life. Not much information is known about her personal life. It is currently not known whether she is married or not.

LeoL 07-28-2020 02:22 AM

Peter Green's son Liam Firlej?
 
https://twitter.com/lfirlej

lazy poker 07-28-2020 04:21 AM

Peter Green's son Liam Firlej?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeoL (Post 1259083)

. . . could well be - he looks the part (imho). though i never heard of his existence before.
but a search on the net led me to these remarkable posts by l.f. (if they're authentic):
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/blin...ad-t51225.html

dino 07-28-2020 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazy poker (Post 1259084)
. . . could well be - he looks the part (imho). though i never heard of his existence before.
but a search on the net led me to these remarkable posts by l.f. (if they're authentic):
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/blin...ad-t51225.html

He does look a bit like Peter.

FuzzyPlum 07-28-2020 02:36 PM

Various searches would suggest Peter did indeed have a son. The chap in the picture (Liam?) looks to be around 30??? Looks quite sad/angry/frustrated judging by those few twitter comments and those on the BFF forum.

The woman in the picture is not Rosebud.

LeoL 07-30-2020 05:50 AM

Peter indeed have a son (almost copy of himself)
 
"....Amen to that, jostber. In all fairness, unless you know Liam or are aware of his relationship to Peter (I wasn't, and had to Google it) then you might wonder why Liam's joining BBF would prompt a Peter Green retrospective, or quite what Liam's so angry about.

Liam, I hope you find the answers you're seeking, but this is not the place for badmouthing or threats. And while everyone rightly reveres Peter for his phenomenal abilities as a guitarist, let's not forget he was also a gifted songwriter, and possesses one of the most expressive voices in British Blues..."

https://twitter.com/LFirlej/photo

Somebody sure knows...but it's difficult to prove because both of his descendants like to keep as low profile as their father. By the way, the young man in twitter picture is amazingly looking Peter Green.

Murrow 07-31-2020 12:47 PM

Still no further word from the family despite the promise of a 'further statement'. Probably too much admin to plough through.

michelej1 08-08-2020 12:43 AM

Sunday Life BelfastTelegraph Ltd.
August 2, 2020

GREEN A HERO TO NI STARS
IVAN LITTLE'S ULSTER BLOG ivanlittle@live.com


LEGENDARY blues guitarist Peter Green, who died last week, was an inspiration to two of our finest musicians, both of whom are sadly no longer with us.

Gary Moore was such a fan that Green, during a low point in his life, sold him a precious Les Paul guitar at a knockdown price because he wanted it to go to a good home. Rory Gallagher, who said Green had given him the confidence to pursue his musical dreams, once recorded a special tribute to his hero.

Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, as they used to be known, played several times in Belfast and they were always magnificent.

I saw them at the Ulster Hall in May 1969 and in February 1970. Sadly, Peter left the band just a few months later as his mental health deteriorated. I regret that I didn't see him in later years when he played the Limelight in Belfast with his Splinter Group.

michelej1 08-08-2020 12:48 AM

Australia 7/31/20 Advertiser Online (Austl.) (Pg. Unavail. Online)

PETER ALLEN GREENBAUM
Musician

Born: October 29, 1946, London

Died: July 25, 2020, Essex

PETER Green is best known for being a founding member of band Fleetwood Mac, writing hits such as Black Magic Woman.

His blues credentials are outstanding, with legends such as B.B. King, John Mayall and Noel Gallagher all listing him as a major influence. Green ranks at No. 58 on Rolling Stone magazine's 100 greatest guitarists of all time.

Born into a Jewish family, Green was the youngest of postman Joe and Ann Greenbaum's four children. He started playing professionally at 15 after brother Michael introduced him to the guitar.

In late 1965, Green met drummer Mick Fleetwood while playing in the band Peter B's Looners.

That year, Green also replaced Eric Clapton in John Mayall's band Bluesbreakers, to strong acclaim.

In 1967, Green left that band to form his own blues outfit with Fleetwood on drums. It was called Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Featuring Jeremy Spencer.
He eventually whittled the name down to Fleetwood Mac – an amalgamation of Mick Fleetwood and bass player John McVie's names. In 1968, Green's Black Magic Woman became a hit, and then a global sensation when Santana covered it in 1970.

The band made three albums before Green left in 1970, beginning a near-decade lay-off after he became disillusioned with the music industry.

Meanwhile, Fleetwood Mac, whose line-up was rebuilt with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, has become one of rock's greatest bands.

Green made an uncredited appearance on the album Tusk in 1979 and formed other lesser-known bands in later years.

He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998, playing Black Magic Woman with fellow inductee Carlos Santana.

In 2009, he was the subject of the documentary Peter Green: Man of the World.

Green married Jane Samuels in January 1978 and they had a daughter, Rosebud. They divorced in 1979.

He is survived by Rosebud and Liam Firlej, his son from another relationship.

michelej1 08-08-2020 12:53 AM

Washington Post, The (Washington, D.C.)

July 31, 2020 Matt Schudel

Deeply influential guitar hero of British blues

Peter Green, who was a founder of the British band Fleetwood Mac and was considered one of the greatest guitarists of his era before becoming a tragic casualty of the rock world, beset by drug problems and mental illness, has died at age 73.

Swan Turton, a British law firm representing his family, announced the death in a statement. Further information, including the exact date, place and cause of death, was not released.

In the United States, Mr. Green was best known as the composer of "Black Magic Woman," which he first performed two years before it became an international hit for Carlos Santana. In his native England, he was revered as perhaps the finest rock guitarist of his generation, ranked on the same level as Eric Clapton and Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page.

Mr. Green was a charismatic figure at the forefront of a fast-moving rock-and-roll revolution, as the music evolved in the late 1960s from its blues-based origins to a more ornate and theatrical style, with overtones of spiritual striving.

He replaced Clapton in one of the seminal British groups of the time, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and in 1967 was a co-founder of Fleetwood Mac. Mr. Green named the band for two of its members - drummer Mick Fleetwood and bassist John McVie - but at the beginning, he was its undisputed leader and creative dynamo. The British music press dubbed him the "Green god."
"Peter could have been the stereotypical superstar guitar player and control freak," Fleetwood told the Irish Times newspaper in 2017. "But that wasn't his style. He named the band after the bass player and drummer . . . the reason there's a Fleetwood Mac at all is because of him."

Rolling Stone magazine named Mr. Green one of the top 100 guitarists in rock history. One of his idols, Delta blues master B.B. King, reportedly said Mr. Green had "the sweetest tone I ever heard. He was the only one who gave me the cold sweats."

Mr. Green's early leadership of Fleetwood Mac was so powerful that, when the group released its first album in 1968, the record label billed it as "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac." In addition to classic blues tunes by Robert Johnson and Elmore James, the album contained five songs by Mr. Green and three by its second guitarist, Jeremy Spencer. (A third guitarist, Danny Kirwan, later joined the group.)

Two other albums, "Mr. Wonderful" and "Then Play On," followed in 1968 and 1969, respectively, both featuring Mr. Green's compositions, singing and guitar wizardry. Music polls in Britain rated Fleetwood Mac ahead of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

Some of Mr. Green's most dazzling work, however, could not be heard on the band's first albums. "Black Magic Woman" was released in 1968 as a 45-rpm single and appeared on a 1969 compilation album before becoming a hit for Santana in 1970.

Mr. Green's lyrical instrumental ballad "Albatross," also from 1968, became a No. 1 hit in the United Kingdom on the strength of his sublimely controlled touch on his Les Paul guitar. The 1969 single "Oh Well," which reached No. 2 in Britain, opened with Mr. Green's snarling electric guitar riff and his unforgettable opening line:

Can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to.

After rocking out for more than two minutes, the band dramatically shifted to an elegant, cinematic mode in the second half of the song, with Mr. Green playing an almost mournful extended solo on an acoustic Spanish-style guitar, with echoes of Andres Segovia.

His final major contribution to the Fleetwood Mac canon came in 1970, with "The Green Manalishi (With The Two-Prong Crown)," a song about the evils of money that contained menacing lyrics - "The night is so black that the darkness cooks" - and even more menacing guitar lines.

During his time with Fleetwood Mac, Mr. Green grew more eccentric in his manner and dress, sometimes performing in robes, with a large cross around his neck. His experiments with hallucinogenic drugs came to a head during a European tour in March 1970, when the band arrived in Munich.

Mr. Green was met at the airport by a mysterious couple - a young woman in wire-rim glasses and a man wearing a cape. He ended up spending several days with the couple, apparently taking LSD at a castle outside Munich. When other band members tried to retrieve Mr. Green from what they described as a cult, they found him playing guitar in a frenzied fashion.
Even before then, his songs were becoming more apocalyptic, and he had implored his bandmates to give away their money and other material possessions. Fleetwood and McVie persuaded Mr. Green to rejoin the band, but he left after only two months.

"To this day," Fleetwood said in 1996, "John [McVie] and I always say that was it. Peter Green was never the same after that." Kirwan, Mr. Green's fellow guitarist in the band, also took hallucinogens at the German castle, and his behavior soon became so erratic that he was forced out of the group.
Mr. Green briefly played with Fleetwood Mac in 1971, but refused to sing, then quit the band for good. He gave away his royalties, sold his guitars and began staying with friends and on doorsteps.

During the 1970s, he worked at a filling station, as a hospital attendant and as a gravedigger. In 1977, after he was arrested for threatening his accountant with a shotgun, Mr. Green was treated at a psychiatric hospital.
Meanwhile, he made a few solo records that went nowhere. In the late 1970s, Fleetwood arranged a record deal for Mr. Green that would have earned him nearly $1 million for a series of albums. At the last minute, Mr. Green refused to sign the contract.

He vanished into silence and continued treatment for mental illness. He had a short-lived marriage in the 1970s, then later lived with members of his family. His fingernails grew so long that he could not finger the chords on a guitar.

By 1995, Mr. Green was staying in the English countryside with old friends, including musician Nigel Watson. When Watson handed Mr. Green a guitar, it was the first time he had touched the instrument in a dozen years.
Slowly, some of his old facility returned. In the late 1990s, Mr. Green started a new band, called the Splinter Group. He recorded an acoustic album, "The Robert Johnson Songbook," in 1998, and a few other albums.

He went on low-key tours of Europe and the United States, looking nothing like his old self. Once slender, with dark, curly hair and a mustache, he was now bald, clean-shaven and portly. He often strummed rhythm guitar while others performed the majestic solos he had been known for in earlier years.
In interviews, he was gentle, self-effacing and rambling.

"I was very critically ill for a while there, you might say," he told the Los Angeles Times in 1998. "I'm not really back yet."

Peter Allen Greenbaum was born Oct. 29, 1946, in London. His father was a tailor who later worked for the British postal service. The family adopted the name Green in the late 1940s.

While growing up in a working-class neighborhood, Mr. Green was often subjected to anti-Semitic taunts. He became engrossed in music at age 10, after an older brother brought home a guitar.

By 15, Mr. Green had left school to become an apprentice butcher, but his real focus was on music, inspired by blues and early rock-and-roll. He played bass and guitar in several bands before joining Mayall's Bluesbreakers in 1966. A year later, with Mayall's blessing, Mr. Green invited Fleetwood and later McVie to leave the Bluesbreakers and form Fleetwood Mac.

Over the years, Fleetwood Mac changed personnel and its musical style, becoming more of a pop-oriented band with two female singers, Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie. It became one of the most successful groups of the 1970s and 1980s, selling more than 100 million records. When Fleetwood Mac was named to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998, Mr. Green joined Santana in a performance of "Black Magic Woman."

Survivors include a daughter from his marriage to Jane Samuels, which ended in divorce, and a son from another relationship.

For years, Mr. Green remained a subject of enduring mystery and tragedy in Britain. He seemed to be a cautionary tale of the rock-and-roll life, like the burnout cases of Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett or the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson.
Musician and writer Martin Celmins published a biography of Mr. Green in 2003, and the BBC produced a documentary about his life in 2009.

After 2010, Mr. Green stopped performing in public. When Mick Fleetwood produced a star-studded London tribute concert in Mr. Green's honor in February, he did not attend.

"I've been kind of dead for a long time," Mr. Green said in 1998. "I couldn't function at all. I really haven't got it all together yet, but I'm working on it . . . I certainly feel a lot better when I play music, however."

michelej1 08-08-2020 01:06 AM

7/28/20 Globe & Mail (Toronto Can.) A12

Fleetwood Mac co-founder Peter Green gave it all up, but made his mark
BRAD WHEELER

The family of Fleetwood Mac co-founder Peter Green said the guitarist died "peacefully in his sleep" this past weekend at the age of 73. If he did pass in such a fashion, peacefully, he did not die as he had lived.

Green was a sensitive soul with melancholy in his fingers - so much fury and vulnerability transmitted through his instrument. Now considered Southern California rock legends, Fleetwood Mac was at the forefront of the British bell-bottom blues movement when Green split for good in 1971, after just four years with the group.

He was disillusioned. He donated his money to various charities. He gave everything away - really. And what he didn't give, others took. Led Zeppelin based the a cappella vocals of its classic Black Dog on Green's Oh Well. Another of Green's Fleetwood Mac compositions, Albatross, was the inspiration behind the Beatles' Sun King.

Prior to creating Fleetwood Mac, Green was with John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, as was the rhythm section of drummer Mick Fleetwood and bassist John McVie. In 1967, Green formed Fleetwood Mac around those two, selflessly naming the band after them.

Like Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones and Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd, Green was too brittle, though. An acid trip too far and a spiritual crisis immediately preceded his departure from Fleetwood Mac. Over the years, suffering from mental illness, he sporadically retired and unretired from music.

By the time Green briefly married a Canadian fiddler in the late 1970s, Fleetwood Mac had gone on to fame and fortune without him. Green was just one more entry in the Rock 'n' Roll Eats Its Own file.

He will be remembered for the sweet tone of his Les Paul model guitar. Green could do more with three notes than most could do with seven, and his economy extended to his lyrics.

Can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin, But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.

The song is 1970's Oh Well (Part 1).

Epitomizing the apologetic self pity of the blues and the sneering defiance of punk, the verse is rock 'n' roll encapsulated. A god's hammer guitar riff was the bravado Green otherwise lacked.

Green's Latin-tinged Black Magic Woman flopped as a Fleetwood Mac single in 1968, but another band, Santana, had huge success with it as a cover version.

One of the last compositions he wrote for Fleetwood Mac was The Green Manalishi (With the Two Prong Crown); it later became associated with the metal group Judas Priest.

All that memorable music, from a forgotten man.

A line of singer-guitarists took Green's place handling Oh Well over the years, including Bob Welch and Lindsey Buckingham.

Fleetwood Mac booted Buckingham out in 2018. On the band's 2019 tour, Mike Campbell from Tom Petty's Heartbreakers sang the "I can't sing" bit.
No one is irreplaceable. Fleetwood Mac is a business. Green helped build it, but he wasn't built for it.

michelej1 08-08-2020 01:11 AM

7/27/20 Conversation (U.K.) (Pg. Unavail. Online)

Peter Green: troubled Fleetwood Mac founder leaves legacy of brilliance that shines still

Adam Behr, Lecturer in Popular and Contemporary Music, Newcastle University

A virtuoso guitarist and songwriter, Green's career was blighted by drug-amplified mental health problems.

Blues virtuoso Peter Green in 1970. Nick Contador via Mikimedia Commons, CC BY-NC-SA

One of rock's clichés, originating in a Neil Young song lyric , is that "it's better to burn out than to fade away". And indeed, many of its most celebrated casualties – from Jimi Hendrix to Kurt Cobain – departed the stage in sudden, shocking fashion thanks to tragic premature deaths. But even those whose play-out was lengthy, after a brief initial burst, can leave a hefty legacy.

Such was the case for Peter Green, founder of Fleetwood Mac, who passed away on July 25 aged 73, leaving an indelible stamp on generations of guitar players based primarily on a core body of work between 1966 and 1970.
Born Peter Greenbaum in 1946, the youngest son of an East End Jewish family – and, like many of his generation, transfixed by imported blues records from America – he emerged just after the initial wave of British blues-rock guitar heroes – notably the celebrated triumvirate of Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page.

He made his name by filling Clapton's shoes in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers – a kind of academy and clearing house for many who would move on to some of the biggest rock acts of subsequent decades. Having substituted for Clapton on the occasional gig, Green took up a place in the band when Clapton left to form Cream. Green, in his turn, would be replaced in the band by Mick Taylor, before Taylor joined the Rolling Stones in 1969.

Replacing Clapton was a daunting task for Green. Clapton's fan-base among London's blues aficionados was vocal – famously demonstrated by the graffiti " Clapton is God " that appeared on a wall in London at the time.

Green rose to the challenge, however, stamping his mark on the next Bluesbreakers album, A Hard Road (1967), both as a singer, and with instrumental compositions such as The Supernatural that established him as an eminent instrumentalist in his own right.

Importantly, he did this by veering away from the overt virtuosity of the other guitar heroes of the day. As Mick Fleetwood would put it :
He went immediately for the human touch, and that's what Peter's playing has represented to millions of people – he played with the human, not the superstar touch.

Forming Fleetwood Mac

A key tension within Green's career – and personality – was between ambition and independence, on the one hand, and diffidence and fragility on the other. This was clear when, keen to set up his own group, he split from the Bluesbreakers after one album – taking drummer Mick Fleetwood and, later, bassist John McVie with him – but naming the new band Fleetwood Mac after his rhythm section and sharing lead guitar and vocal duties with new recruit Jeremy Spencer.

In this new outfit, his capacity for innovation came to the fore. A series of hits drew on his growing confidence as a songwriter and pushed the boundaries of the blues. Others, including Clapton, drove the role of the "guitar hero" forward through ever-lengthier expositions of fretboard dexterity. But Green, despite his technical ability, focused on the more nebulous merits of "feel" and "tone", eventually making these indispensable facets of the rock guitar arsenal. He would recall ,

Playing fast is something I used to do with John Mayall when things weren't going very well. But it isn't any good. I like to play slowly and feel every note.

A trip too far

His comparatively brief sojourn with Fleetwood Mac yielded standards including Oh Well! (which inspired the Led Zeppelin staple Black Dog) and Black Magic Woman – later a signature song for Santana.
But in his songs, the fractiousness of The Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown) – its sonic density a forerunner of heavy metal – and the uncertainty of Man of the World , evidenced a growing unease that would crash his career. On tour in 1970, following an LSD trip at a commune in Germany – one of several he took – he abruptly quit the band, unable to cope with his growing fame.

Fleetwood Mac would spend the next few years with a rapidly rotating line-up – including a brief return by Green to help them complete a tour after Jeremy Spencer left to join a cult. They relocated to America and, having recruited Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, delivered one of the defining albums of the 1970s: the hugely successful Rumours .

Green himself struggled. Like Pink Floyd founder Syd Barrett , whose band achieved stratospheric success after his own LSD-exacerbated mental illness precipitated his departure, Green made occasional recordings in the early seventies, but never found his equilibrium.

Later diagnosed with schizophrenia he oscillated between stints as a gravedigger and hospital porter. There were episodes of erratic behaviour – trying to give away all of his money – and spells in psychiatric hospitals, where he received electroconvulsive therapy.

He re-emerged sporadically, first with solo recordings in the 1980s and then, on a series of albums with The Splinter Group in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Leaning heavily on standards and cover versions, and garnering a respectable, if sympathetic, following, they rarely troubled the upper reaches of the charts, or recaptured his earlier fire.

Rich legacy

If the headlines mainly remembered Green as a tragic div, like other innovators of his generation that were brought low by drugs and collapse, his quiet influence was much deeper. Not the first, or most famous, of the British guitar heroes, his emphasis on tone, economy and space nevertheless shaped the vocabulary of rock guitar.

The likes of Jimmy Page and Gary Moore – the latter of whom recorded an album of Green's songs – attested to his impact. No less a luminary than BB King would remark : "He has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats."

michelej1 08-08-2020 01:16 AM

7/27/20 Herald 22

Herald (Glasgow, Scotland)

Renowned guitarist who founded one of the world's biggest groups

By Russell Leadbetter

IT was late 1969. Fleetwood Mac, a band that had been formed just two years previously, was one of the biggest acts in the world. In Europe they outsold The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in terms of record sales and concert tickets, and they consistently did well in readers' polls.

Peter Green, their guitarist and co-founder, whose death at the age of 73 was reported at the weekend, had established himself as one of the most innovative and soulful guitarists of his generation. The late BB King once said of him that he "has the sweetest tone I ever heard. He was the only one who gave me the cold sweats".

An instrumental single, Albatross, had reached No 1 in 1968. Their third album, Then Play On, with its classic song, Oh Well, had sold 100,000 copies in America alone.

Come 1969, the band finally felt they were on to something, writes drummer Mick Fleetwood in his memoirs. "All of us were ecstatic about it - all except Peter. Our popularity, our tour schedule and our record sales had the opposite effect on him; they put him into a dark, depressed cocoon of his own making." Green had already begun talking about leaving before Oh Well became a hit.

Fleetwood relates how Green, who had been regularly taking LSD, became more disillusioned and sensitive, distressed by other people's sufferings and poverty. At one point he gave £12,000 to charities and wanted the band to live and tour monastically and give all of their profits to charity. He took to wearing kaftans and robes, and a large wooden crucifix. Fleetwood describes

Green's personal problems in 1970 as a "complicated mental illness".
Green's departure that February - there was one final episode involving well-off German hippies and a large supply of LSD - meant that he was not part of the Stevie Nicks-Lindsey Buckingham incarnation of Fleetwood Mac, which achieved global success by selling in excess of 45 million copies of their 1977 album, Rumours.

Guitarist Peter Frampton tweeted at the weekend: "Most sadly [we] have lost one of the most tasteful guitar players ever. I have always been a huge admirer of the great Peter Green."

Bernie Marsden, another noted guitarist, who tweeted a photograph of himself with Green, taken in February, said Green had touched "millions of musicians". Marsden said his friend's "talent for guitar playing, vocals and harmonica would have been more than most people could have possibly wished for, and then you add those wonderful songs, original, vibrant, atmospheric, outright psychedelic and much fun to listen to and witness".
The photograph was taken on the day of a huge show in Green's honour at the London Palladium, which was hosted by Mick Fleetwood and featured such musicians as David Gilmour, Pete Townshend, Bill Wyman and Noel Gallagher.

Fleetwood said in a statement before the event: "The concert is a celebration of those early blues days where we all began, and it's important to recognise the profound impact Peter and early Fleetwood Mac had on the world of music. Peter was my greatest mentor."

Peter Allen Greenbaum was born into a working-class Jewish family in Bethnal Green, London, in October 1946. He did various jobs, including butcher and furniture polisher, but he was a guitar enthusiast from an early age and by the time he was 15 he was playing professionally.

In 1965 he briefly replaced Eric Clapton in a renowned group, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and the following year he became a full-time member of the band upon Clapton's departure. In1967 he put together a band of his own, with Fleetwood, guitarist Jeremy Spencer and bassist John Brunning, who quickly gave way to John McVie (who, like Fleetwood, had been in the Bluesbreakers). The new band was named Fleetwood Mac after the rhythm section.

Green and Fleetwood had also been part of another group, Shotgun Express, that had Rod Stewart as vocalist, and it was during that time that Green's prodigious guitar skills led to him being christened the "Green God", just as graffiti across London had referred to Clapton as "God". Mick Fleetwood said Green was "the most brilliant musician I have ever played with. When he was well, he was on a par with a genius like Miles Davis".

One of Fleetwood Mac's early fans was the pianist and singer Christine Perfect. Recalling those days in an interview in 2017, she watched Fleetwood Mac play in "small, sweaty clubs" and was struck by what she recalls as "their phenomenal ... kick-ass chemistry". Mick and John were a force to be reckoned with, and you had little Jeremy Spencer playing slide .... [and] Peter Green, who was like Jesus, playing out-of-this-world guitar".
Perfect married McVie in 1968. Two years later, as Christine McVie, she became a full member of the band.

Green was confined in a mental hospital in 1977 after an incident involving his manager. He was released later that same year, and married Jane Samuels in 1978. They had a daughter, Rosebud, and divorced the following year. Green also has a son, Liam Firlej.

He had a sporadic career as a solo and session guitarist, releasing some half-dozen solo albums. He left the music scene in the mid-1980s but returned with the Peter Green Splinter Group in 1997.

The band he had formed in 1967 went on to experience many ups and downs, and several changes in personnel, before, with Fleetwood, the McVies, Buckingham and Nicks, it found commercial success in the mid-1970s.

In 1998, Green was on stage as the group was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Fleetwood thanked Green for forming the band. He added: "He left us with a stage that was to continue until today. Lunacy, heartache, happiness, unhappiness and, thank God, a sense of healing, has come to all of us up here on the stage."

michelej1 08-08-2020 01:20 AM

7/26/20 Associated Press (AP) Newswires 01:30:56

Fleetwood Mac blues guitarist Peter Green dies at 73

ROBERT BARR and DANICA KIRKA, Associated Press

LONDON (AP) — Peter Green, the dexterous blues guitarist who led the first incarnation of Fleetwood Mac in a career shortened by psychedelic drugs and mental illness, has died at 73.

A law firm representing his family, Swan Turton, announced the death in a statement Saturday. It said he died "peacefully in his sleep″ this weekend. A further statement will be issued in the coming days.

Green, to some listeners, was the best of the British blues guitarists of the 1960s. B.B. King once said Green "has the sweetest tone I ever heard. He was the only one who gave me the cold sweats."

Green also made a mark as a composer with "Albatross," and as a songwriter with "Oh Well" and "Black Magic Woman."

He crashed out of the band in 1971. Even so, Mick Fleetwood said in an interview with The Associated Press in 2017 that Green deserves the lion's share of the credit for the band's success.

"Peter was asked why did he call the band Fleetwood Mac. He said, 'Well, you know I thought maybe I'd move on at some point and I wanted Mick and John (McVie) to have a band.' End of story, explaining how generous he was," said Fleetwood, who described Green as a standout in an era of great guitar work.

Indeed, Green was so fundamental to the band that in its early days it was called Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac.

Peter Allen Greenbaum was born on Oct. 29, 1946, in London. The gift of a cheap guitar put the 10-year-old Green on a musical path.

He was barely out of his teens when he got his first big break in 1966, replacing Eric Clapton in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers — initially for just a week in 1965 after Clapton abruptly took off for a Greek holiday. Clapton quit for good soon after and Green was in.

In the Bluesbreakers he was reunited with Mick Fleetwood, a former colleague in Peter B's Looners. Mayall added bass player McVie soon after.
The three departed the next year, forming the core of the band initially billed as "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring (guitarist) Jeremy Spencer."
Fleetwood Mac made its debut at the British Blues and Jazz festival in the summer of 1967, which led to a recording contract, then an eponymous first album in February 1968. The album, which included "Long Grey Mare" and three other songs by Green, stayed on the British charts for 13 months.
The band's early albums were heavy blues-rock affairs marked by Green's fluid, evocative guitar style and gravelly vocals. Notable singles included "Oh Well" and the Latin-flavored "Black Magic Woman," later a hit for Carlos Santana.

But as the band flourished, Green became increasingly erratic, even paranoid. Drugs played a part in his unraveling.

On a tour in California, Green became acquainted with Augustus Owsley Stanley III, notorious supplier of powerful LSD to the The Grateful Dead and Ken Kesey, the anti-hero of Tom Wolfe's book "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test."

"He was taking a lot of acid and mescaline around the same time his illness began manifesting itself more and more," Fleetwood said in 2015. "We were oblivious as to what schizophrenia was back in those days but we knew something was amiss."

"Green Manalishi," Green's last single for the band, reflected his distress.
In an interview with Johnny Black for Mojo magazine, Green said: "I was dreaming I was dead and I couldn't move, so I fought my way back into my body. I woke up and looked around. It was very dark and I found myself writing a song. It was about money; 'The Green Manalishi' is money."
In some of his last appearances with the band, he wore a monk's robe and a crucifix. Fearing that he had too much money, he tried to persuade other band members to give their earnings to charities.

Green left Fleetwood Mac for good in 1971.

In his absence, the band's new line-up, including Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, gained enormous success with a more pop-tinged sound.

"I am so sorry to hear about the passing of Peter Green," Nicks said in a statement. "My biggest regret is that I never got to share the stage with him. I always hoped in my heart of hearts that that would happen. When I first listened to all the Fleetwood Mac records, I was very taken with his guitar playing. It was one of the reasons I was excited to join the band. His legacy will live on forever in the history books of Rock n Roll. It was in the beginning, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and I thank you, Peter Green, for that. You changed our lives."

Green was confined in a mental hospital in 1977 after an incident with his manager. Testimony in court said Green had asked for money and then threatened to shoot out the windows of the manager's office.
Green was released later in the year, and married Jane Samuels, a Canadian, in 1978. They had a daughter, Rosebud, and divorced the following year. Green also has a son, Liam Firlej.

Green returned to performing in the 1990s with the Peter Green Splinter Group.

In 1998, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame along with other past and present members of Fleetwood Mac.
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michelej1 08-08-2020 01:25 AM

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Peter Green: Mick Fleetwood and Stevie Nicks lead tributes to Fleetwood Mac co-founder

'His talent for guitar playing, vocals and harmonica would have been more than most people could have possibly wished for,' says Whitesnake's Berni...
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'His talent for guitar playing, vocals and harmonica would have been more than most people could have possibly wished for,' says Whitesnake's Bernie Marsden

Peter Green 's former Fleetwood Mac bandmates have led tributes to the influential guitarist and songwriter, after his death aged 73 . He died peacefully in his sleep at home, his family said.

The co-founder of the legendary group was described as "inspirational" and "one of the greats" by his peers.

Mick Fleetwood , who co-founded the band with Green in 1967, said: "For me, and every past and present member of Fleetwood Mac, losing Peter Green is monumental.

"No-one has ever stepped into the ranks of Fleetwood Mac without a reverence for Peter Green and his talent, and to the fact that music should shine bright and always be delivered with uncompromising passion."

The 73-year-old added: "Peter, I will miss you, but rest easy your music lives on. I thank you for asking me to be your drummer all those years ago. We did good, and trail blazed one hell of a musical road for so many to enjoy.
"God speed to you, my dearest friend."

Stevie Nicks – who joined Fleetwood Mac with her then-boyfriend Lindsey Buckingham five years after Green quit due to mental health issues – said her biggest regret was missing the chance to share a stage with Green.
"I am so sorry to hear about the passing of Peter Green. My biggest regret is that I never got to share the stage with him. I always hoped in my heart of hearts that that would happen," she wrote in a statement posted to Twitter.
"When I first listened to all the Fleetwood Mac records, I was very taken with his guitar playing. It was one of the reasons I was excited to join the band.
"His legacy will live on forever in the history books of Rock n Roll. It was in the beginning, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and I thank you, Peter Green, for that. You changed our lives."

Singer and guitarist Peter Frampton said: "Most sadly have lost one of the most tasteful guitar players ever. I have always been a huge admirer of the great Peter Green may he rest in peace."

Yusuf/Cat Stevens said Green had become "something of a model" for him, writing: "God bless the ineffable Peter Green, one of the unsung heroes of musical integrity, innovation and spirit. When I heard he left Fleetwood Mac in 1970 to get a real life and donate his wealth to charity, he became something of a model for me."

Green was born in Bethnal Green, London, on 29 October 1946. formed Fleetwood Mac in 1967 with drummer Mick Fleetwood, guitarist Jeremy Spencer and bassist John McVie. Regarded as one of the greatest guitarists of all time, Green wrote hits for the band including "Albatross", "Black Magic Woman", and "Oh Well".

He received his first guitar from his older brother, Len, who had lost interest in learning how to play. One of Green's musical heroes was The Shadows' lead guitarist Hank Marvin, although his other influences were mostly blues greats, from BB King to Otis Rush.

In 1966, Green replaced Eric Clapton in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. Mayall told his producer, who was scandalised at losing Clapton: "He might not be better [than Clapton] now. But you wait… he's going to be the best."
Green was the songwriter behind classic Fleetwood Mac hits including "Albatross", "Black Magic Woman", and "Oh Well".

Mick Fleetwood said in 2017 that Green deserved the lion's share of the credit for the band's success.

"Peter was asked why did he call the band Fleetwood Mac. He said, 'Well, you know I thought maybe I'd move on at some point and I wanted Mick and John (McVie) to have a band'. End of story, explaining how generous he was," said Fleetwood. Green stood out in "an era of great guitar work", he added.

Green was among the eight Fleetwood Mac members inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 1998.

Mumford and Sons guitarist Winston Marshall also tweeted a touching tribute, thanking Green for his work. "Man of the world, oh well, albatross, need your love so bad. Some of my favourite songs and performances of all time. Thank you for the music," he wrote.

"Peter Green was one of my biggest inspirations when I first started playing guitar. I love the way he played and I probably play guitar now because I wanted to be like him," said Franz Ferdinand frontman Alex Kapranos,
Paul Stanley, co-lead vocalist for rock band Kiss, compared Green to the great figures from Britain's blues history, including Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page.

He tweeted: "RIP Peter Green. One of the absolute hierarchy of the original British Blues Greats. Clapton, Page, Beck and Green."

Black Sabbath's Geezer Butler also described Green as "one of the greats". Maximo Park frontman Paul Smith remembered Green as a "master of tone".
Whitesnake guitarist Bernie Marsden shared a picture and his memories of Green in a long tribute on social media.

He wrote on Instagram: "I can't quite express my feelings this afternoon after learning of Peter's death. I'm just thinking of the times we spent together in the last couple of years, hanging out with him at his home was very special. A memory I'll cherish. He made me laugh, cry, wonder, and never failed to make me pinch myself when we were alone one to one.

"There I was, sat [sic] with my hero. As a musician, I can only be one of the millions he touched, his talent for guitar playing, vocals and harmonica would have been more than most people could have possibly wished for, and then you add those wonderful songs, original, vibrant, atmospheric, outright psychedelic and so much fun, to listen to and witness. Those early days of Fleetwood Mac will stay in my mind for ever."

LesPaul7 08-14-2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lazy poker (Post 1258980)
. . . what can i say - except that i'm eternally grateful for the music he created and the great inspiration he's always been for my own guitar playing. farewell, my beloved blues brother.


Perfectly put, LP.

LeoL 08-15-2020 04:47 PM

Picture January 2020 – Old friends meet again:

Reunion after 47 years - Peter Green holds his famous 1956 Gipson Les Paul guitar for the first time after selling it to Gary Moore.

https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-roc...-kirk-hammett/

FuzzyPlum 09-13-2020 02:46 AM

I feel very sorry for the feller. Sounds as if he's endured a frustrating life. Unfortunately Peter was in no fit state to look after himself for most of his adult life, let alone have a relationship with any children.
Its good to hear he's established a relationship with Rosebud though.





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'I was swept under the rug': Fleetwood Mac legend Peter Green's secret son reveals he was forced to go to the High Court for a DNA test to prove the late rocker was his father
Liam Firlej, now 34, was born following a years-long romance between Green - who died aged 73 in July - and Liam's mother Janina, which began around 1980
The star's son said in desperation in January 2015, he turned up at Green's home in Canvey Island, Essex to ask for a DNA test - after years of attempted contact
In 2017 Liam went to the High Court in a DNA battle to prove he was Green's son, and said it was the 'happiest day of my life' when his paternity was proven
Influential blues rock guitarist Green, from Bethnal Green, London co-founded band Fleetwood Mac in 1967
Green left Fleetwood Mac after a final performance in 1970 as he struggled with mental health difficulties and spiralling drug use, later sleeping rough
By EVE BUCKLAND FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 16:08, 30 August 2020 | UPDATED: 10:48, 31 August 2020

The secret son of late Fleetwood Mac legend Peter Green has revealed he went to court for a DNA test to prove his paternity in 2017, after the rocker refused to acknowledge him. Liam Firlej, now 34, was born following a years-long romance between Green - who died aged 73 in July - and Liam's mother Janina, which began around 1980 when Green was in his 30s and Janina aged 18. Liam said he grew up worshipping the co-founder of the iconic band - whose hits include Albatross, Need Your Love So Bad and Black Magic Woman - and that he was desperate for the star to reunite with him.

Father: The secret son of late Fleetwood Mac legend Peter Green (above in 2004) has revealed he went to court for a DNA test to prove his paternity in 2017, after the rocker refused to acknowledge him (pictured late 1960s)

He told The Mirror: 'I feel upset that he's dead – but also so angry that I was never given the opportunity to have a father in my life. 'I feel like I was swept under the rug. I used to try to forget about him and the whole situation. 'It would work for about six months, then I would keep on hearing the music and think "I just can't escape this." It still drives me insane.'

Green, an influential blues rock guitarist, from Bethnal Green in London, formed Fleetwood Mac with drummer Mick Fleetwood after a stint in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers - filling in for Eric Clapton.


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Wanting recognition: Liam Firlej, now 34, (above) was born following a years-long romance between Green - who died aged 73 in July - and Liam's mother Janina, which began around 1980 when Green was in his 30s and Janina aged 18

Green and Fleetwood wanted John McVie to join the group on bass, and named the band Fleetwood Mac to entice him - a strategy that was ultimately successful. Under his direction, the band produced three albums and a series of well-loved tracks including Black Magic Woman and Oh Well. Green left Fleetwood Mac after a final performance in 1970 as he struggled with mental health difficulties and spiralling drug use, later sleeping rough. He was eventually diagnosed with schizophrenia and spent time in hospitals undergoing electro-convulsive therapy during the mid-70s.

Heyday: Green, an influential blues rock guitarist, from Bethnal Green in London, formed Fleetwood Mac with drummer Mick Fleetwood after a stint in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers - filling in for Eric Clapton (pictured 2004)

Childhood: Liam was raised by his grandmother Maureen (pictured as a child) after his mother Janina signed over parental rights. Maureen also pleaded with Green to acknowledge his son

Iconic: Green left Fleetwood Mac after a final performance in 1970 as he struggled with mental health difficulties and spiralling drug use, later sleeping rough (pictured second right in 1969 with John McVie, Danny Kirwan, Mick Fleetwood, and Jeremy Spencer)

The band continued with a transformed line-up featuring a core group of Fleetwood, Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham, John McVie and Christine McVie. This phase gave rise to their huge albums Fleetwood Mac and Rumours.

Liam said after repeated attempts to contact his father and get his recognition, he went to the High Court in 2017 in a DNA battle to prove he was Green's son - and admitted it was the 'happiest day of my life' when his paternity was proven. He now believes the electro-shock therapy Green was given in the 1970s for his mental health issues, damaged his brain and prevented him being a dad to his son. Support worker Liam said Green and his mother Janina had a 'rocky' relationship after their first meeting in 1980 and that the musician used to kick her out of the house.

Wanting a father: Liam said he grew up worshipping the co-founder of the iconic band and that he was desperate for the star to reunite with him (pictured in a school photo)

The pair were not together when Liam was born, with Liam claiming Green slammed the door in Janina's face when she visited his home to introduce him to his son. Liam was raised by his grandmother Maureen Firlej after a struggling Janina signed over parental control of her son. He recalls that Green rarely visited him, but once appeared at his nursery school with 'wild hair and long nails' with staff telling the musician he was 'scaring' the children. Liam knew who his father was at a young age and said he would dance around the living room to his songs.

His grandmother Maureen also attempted to persuade Green to contact his son and pay child maintenance, to which Green allegedly responded that she 'couldn't prove' he didn't look after his son. Rock legend Liam claimed Green slammed the door in Janina's face when she visited his home to introduce him to his son (pictured 1985)

Liam revealed in his early 20s, he was given an address and phone number thought to be Green's, and he wrote him several letters. He said Green then rang him with the father and son chatting 'about life' on several calls before Liam lost his phone - with further letters to the star receiving no answer. Liam said he resorted to turning up at one of Green's gigs in 2010 but claims he was banned from speaking to him.

Tragic loss: Liam said he resorted to turning up at one of Green's gigs in 2010 but claims he was banned from speaking to him (Green pictured in 1969)

Last-ditch attempt: The star's son said in desperation in January 2015, he decided to turn up at Green's home in Canvey Island, Essex to ask for a DNA test - but was rebuffed. The star's son said in desperation in January 2015, he decided to turn up at Green's home in Canvey Island, Essex to ask for a DNA test. He claims Green 'hid behind the door' and appeared fearful before saying he was in poor health. Liam said when questioned about his son, Green said he 'didn't know about that' and tried to contact Janina on the phone.

In his quest to be recognised by his father, Liam met up with original Fleetwood Mac bass player Bob Brunning - who died in 2011- to discuss his father, as well as writing to solicitors and messaging Green's family members on Facebook. He told The Mirror: 'I feel upset that he's dead – but also so angry that I was never given the opportunity to have a father in my life (pictured as a child)

Liam now has a relationship with one of Green's daughters, Rosebud, who the star shares with ex wife Jane Samuels - but said he still feels like the 'black sheep' of the family.

MailOnline has contacted representatives for Peter Green and Fleetwood Mac for comment.

Now Liam has proven he is indeed Green's son, he may be entitled to some of Green's estate, but details of his will have not been revealed yet.

Memory: Liam recalls that Green rarely visited him as a child, but once appeared at his nursery school with 'wild hair and long nails' with staff telling the musician he was 'scaring' the children (Green pictured in 1996)

Liam said he is now working on a documentary about his father's stint in Munich where he took LSD at a party. This incident was seen as a significant point in decline of Green's mental health. Green remerged from obscurity on a number of occasions, forming the Peter Green Splinter Group in the late 1990s with Nigel Watson and Cozy Powell. They released nine albums between 1997 and 2004.

In his footsteps: Liam now has a relationship with one of Green's daughters, Rosebud, who the star shares with ex wife Jane Samuels - but said he still feels like the 'black sheep' of the family. In 1998, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame along with other past and present members of Fleetwood Mac. His death was announced on July 25 in a statement from his devastated family, which read: 'It is with great sadness that the family of Peter Green announce his death this weekend, peacefully in his sleep.

Mick Fleetwood paid tribute to his band co-founder, calling Green 'my dearest friend' and said they 'trail blazed one hell of a musical road for so many to enjoy'.

Tragic loss: His death was announced on July 25 in a statement from his devastated family, which read: 'It is with great sadness that the family of Peter Green announce his death this weekend, peacefully in his sleep' (pictured 1960s)

In a statement , 73-year-old Fleetwood said: 'For me, and every past and present member of Fleetwood Mac, losing Peter Green is monumental. 'Peter was the man who started the band Fleetwood Mac along with myself, John McVie, and Jeremy Spencer. 'No one has ever stepped into the ranks of Fleetwood Mac without a reverence for Peter Green and his talent, and to the fact that music should shine bright and always be delivered with uncompromising passion.' Fleetwood added: 'Peter, I will miss you, but rest easy your music lives on. I thank you for asking me to be your drummer all those years ago. We did good, and trail blazed one hell of a musical road for so many to enjoy.

'God speed to you, my dearest friend....... Love Mick Fleetwood.'

lazy poker 09-13-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1259963)
I feel very sorry for the feller. Sounds as if he's endured a frustrating life. Unfortunately Peter was in no fit state to look after himself for most of his adult life, let alone have a relationship with any children.
Its good to hear he's established a relationship with Rosebud though.



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'I was swept under the rug' (. . .) 'God speed to you, my dearest friend....... Love Mick Fleetwood.'

what an interesting read - but what a sad story. thanks a lot for bringing this to our attention, fuzzy!

FuzzyPlum 09-14-2020 01:48 PM

I think this Daily Mirror piece was the original article. It seems to have slightly more detail. Its very interesting these articles say '...one of Green's US daughters'. I wonder if this suggests he had more than one.



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Fleetwood Mac legend Peter Green's secret son forced into DNA battle to prove truth
EXCLUSIVE Liam Firlej had to go to court to prove Green's paternity, after the rockstar abandoned him as a child and refuse to confirm their connection when they finally came face to face

ByEmily Hall
19:27, 29 AUG 2020UPDATED19:28, 29 AUG 2020
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Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac (Image: Getty)
The secret son of Fleetwood Mac legend Peter Green today tells how the troubled star’s refusal to acknowledge him drove him to a DNA court battle.

Liam Firlej, 34, grew up believing the world-renowned blues guitarist was his father – and had abandoned him as a baby after dumping his mum. In childhood he hero worshipped the rock idol from afar, playing air guitar to his songs such as Black Magic Woman and Need Your Love So Bad – and yearning in vain for him to come back into his life. But when Liam finally met him face-to-face in his late 20s, he was left heartbroken.

Ailing Green, whose mental health had been wrecked by LSD, fobbed off his plea to admit he was his dad.

Now, a month after the Sixties icon’s death at 73, Liam reveals he finally found out the truth in 2017 in a High Court DNA case. But he says that has still not made up for the years of psychological anguish he went through. And he feels his runaway father’s music will haunt him forever.

“I feel upset that he’s dead – but also so angry that I was never given the opportunity to have a father in my life,” he says.
“I feel like I was swept under the rug. I used to try to forget about him and the whole situation.
“It would work for about six months, then I would keep on hearing the music and think ‘I just can’t escape this.’ It still drives me insane.”

Green quit the group after just three years following heavy use of LSD – and after several line-up changes Fleetwood Mac went on to become mainstream musical giants. By the time the guitarist met Liam’s mum in Richmond, South West London, around 1980, he had undergone electroconvulsive therapy for drug-induced schizophrenia, spending time in and out of psychiatric hospitals.

Green was in his 30s and Janina was just 18. They were together for several years before she fell pregnant.
“They were on a love rollercoaster together,” says Liam. “It seems he didn’t treat mum very well. He used to kick her out of the house. The relationship was rocky.” She was apart from him when Liam was born. And Liam was told when she went to his home to show him his son he slammed the door in her face.

Struggling Janina then signed parental control of her son to her mother Maureen Firlej who became Liam’s legal guardian. Green rarely tried to see his son. But Liam recalls being told the star once turned up at his nursery school with wild hair and long nails. Staff told him he was scaring the children.

“I was told who my dad was at a very young age,” says Liam. “When I was about seven I’d imagine he would come and be my father again and him disappearing was just a mistake.

"I thought maybe he didn’t know I existed, but that obviously wasn’t the case. I used to dance around to his tracks in the living room and play air guitar and stuff like that.
“But obviously my father was never going to come. It was a whole letdown.
“It was almost psychologically abusive to me as I used to hear him everywhere. Every time I’d hear a song it would bring up bad memories.
“One of the major things that made me need to prove who my father was the fact I couldn’t escape the music.
“And it’s still upsetting to this day that I didn’t really have parents and I don’t feel part of any family.

His gran Maureen, now 83, tried in vain to persuade Green – who was worth around £12million when he died in July – to accept responsibility for his son.
“She told me she wanted him to pay child maintenance. She’d say ‘why don’t you look after your son?’, and he’d say ‘you can’t prove it.’

Liam became a support worker for vulnerable adults while the calling to have his father acknowledge him remained strong. He met up with original band member Bob Brunning, who died in 2011, to discuss his dad. And he wrote to the star’s solicitors, and messaged family members on Facebook. In his early 20s, Liam was given an address thought to be Green’s and he wrote him several letters, including his phone number. One day, Green rang out of the blue and they chatted about life.

Several calls followed, but Liam lost his phone and further letters went unanswered. He even turned up at one of his dad’s blues gigs in 2010 but was banned from speaking to him. Then in January 2015, desperate for an answer, he decided to turn up at Green’s house in Canvey Island, Essex, to ask for a DNA test, saying: “Do you know who I am? I’m your son.”

The reaction wasn’t promising. “He hid behind the door a bit and seemed fearful of what was going on,” said Liam.
“He told me about his health, but any conversation about me he’d go ‘oh well I don’t know about that’.
“He remembered my mum and tried to get her on the phone but I don’t think he’d have even believed it was her anyway.
"He said he wasn’t doing too great. I felt p****d off. I thought I’d never get recognition from him. It was like hitting my head against a brick wall.” Two years later, Liam went to High Court in a final bid for proof.

He said it was “the happiest day of my life” when he was finally vindicated – and he now has a family relationship with one of Green’s US daughters, Rosebud, from his first marriage to Jane Samuels in 1978
“But I still feel it’s like I’m the black sheep – even though I feel very close to my gran.”

Now he believes his dad’s mental state – and his fame – also helped keep them apart. He thinks the shock treatment Green was given in the Seventies for his mental ill health probably damaged the musician’s brain for good and robbed him of a father. And he believes the drug-fuelled music industry and solicitors around Green stopped the star seeing him.

“He was taken on a rollercoaster of fame,” said Liam. “The band made it big very quickly and my father received a lot of peer pressure to dabble in drugs. The three years he was in that band ruined his life.”

The positive paternity test now means Liam may be entitled to a portion of Green’s estate – but details of the will are yet to be disclosed.

Liam is now working on a documentary about his dad’s time in Munich where he took doses of LSD at a party that were later seen as a crucial point in his mental health decline. Liam said he hopes his story gives hope to others searching for fathers, adding: “I wish to dedicate my achievement to all those going through the same psychological struggle I went through.'

goldustsongbird 12-06-2020 11:45 AM

Poor guy. I always thought his and Danny's stories were the saddest.


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