Article re: Buckingham open to return to FM
 

I know this came from the Conan, but here is an article.

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/lindsey...L6lgTIzif8K4s0

Thanks for posting
He has said this before so its not really new. However I see it as another olive branch. I have never wanted to be so wrong. I predicted it would happen as far back as 2018. I hope it does not happen. John probably could not do it. Stevie and Lindsey still could tour and probably Mick too. Its just not Fleetwood Mac without Chris. But I think that time has passed and Stevie realizes her mistake and may want to turn a page in time and give Fleetwood Mac a proper burial goodbye.
I love how much Lindsey has changed over the years and appreciating playing with the Mac. Clearly he has enough money. He does it for the love of playing. Love that. But I am against it and hope it never happens.

I hope it never happens. John is done, and Chris is dead, and Old Goatsy fired Lindsey. IT'S OVER. ACCEPT IT, Mick.

I find it sad in a pathetic kind of way that he’s still talking about being open to a reunion even with Christine gone. The Lindsey I remember would want to just let it be.

Maybe Buckingham Nicks featuring Mick Fleetwood could happen, but Fleetwood Mac is done.

LB says of his firing: "There’s no fingers to point at anyone, really"--

Ummmmm....

Maybe the band, under Lindsey's direction, could do AI-generated songs they believe Christine could have written and sung had she been there.

I mean the options are limitless and oh so exciting.

(I'm being sarcastic.)

I'm not so sure Lindsey actually wants to join FM again, but it shows a level of maturity that he's willing to forgive, unlike Stevie. Once again, Lindsey and Stevie have completely reversed course. In many ways, they are complete opposites, and the years have made that divide even broader. They both are different people than they were in the 70-80s for better or worse. My thoughts are Lindsey just doesn't want to be the one at fault for the demise of the band in the matter that it happened. At this point it beyond any point of the band getting back together. Lindsey and Stevie could still do a BuckNicks reunion, but that would be a slap in the face to the fans that wanted a better ending for the band. Let sleeping dogs lie and put it to rest.

Man, he looks PATHETIC. Tusk Lindsey would kick this Lindsey right in her nether regions. What a sad ending to our band.

Near death experiences humble people. I think when it happened right after his firing changed him. When he recovered he had an entirely different outlook on life. He is not bitter, holds no grudges and is at peace.

Mick will need money at some point and I can hear him begging Stevie to do one last thing for him. Mick is living off his RRHOF award sale, Rumours band proceeds, a few bucks from Mac album sales, and anything else he auctioned off. That wont last long.

[QUOTE=SteveMacD;1292092]Quite done. The McVies—one of them is still with us but completely inactive. Nicks—she is a solo touring act that obviously has no further interest in her old band. Buckingham—has some juice in him and the inclination to do something-or-other. Fleetwood—even the manic Fleetwood is slowing down and not filling his every waking hour with music projects. The only thing I see happening at this stage is a Buckingham–Fleetwood gig or series of gigs at the clubs (Zoo style), with the two of them whomping around with one final rock and roll push before the retirement home. It actually could be kinda fun to witness. They could throw caution (and vapid psychologizing) to the wind and blast their way through “Bwana” and “Second Hand News” and “The Right Place to Fade.” In fact, the latter would make the perfect final performance.

^^^This part.

But never Stevie and Lindsey. EVER.

Not sure I believe she feels this way at all. Not sure why he would be extending that olive branch.... guilt over past stuff??? At this point, let it go dude.

Well said.

Both of these things are puzzling.... Is it just a very Lindsey thing that HE didn't get to control the ending and that's what bothers him?? Does he feel like he owes her something or like he's guilty or something?? It's very, very weird his backtracking on this and like... gaslighting all of the world about what happened. Let.it.go.

I think he's embarrassed. That his heart attack made him realize that maybe he's an @ss(at least to CRAZY STEVIE, who deserves every ounce of his vitriol! But I digress... lol). That he doesn't want to die, being remembered as an asshole. He wants to die on top of the game...

But, "Dear Lindsey, is too late for that now. The window has closed. You've got to learn to live with it. It's over."

And you did win. You finally got rid of that crazy @#%%&. Congrats! :)

Surely he wanted to sound polite, but I think he should have refrained from saying that. Or the only decent explanation for this quote is that he knows something we don't. I always find ridiculous that the reason Stevie wanted the band to fire Lindsey was that story about the 2018 Musicares Gala. There had to be more than that, IMHO. And "that" could mean Lindsey did something more that bothered Stevie a lot, something really serious. Or she has mental problems and the band (yes the 3 members) agreed for money reasons.

And I agree that at this point is ridiculous and pathetic about they could be thinking in a reunion. War is over. Sorry, Fleetwood Mac is over ;) .

Get that fake bull*** out of here!

If they would hold hands and kiss, I'd projectile vomit all over the world! Look out, y'all!

It's just insulting at this point.

Given the circs, and John's probable retirement, some sort of Lindsey & Mick all-star band with rotating membership might be fun to go to. It looks like those two at least have made some sort of peace.

I don't think I could abide going to see Stevie with the other two (or three) as FM. I would prefer to leave my illusions intact from that magical 2014/15 tour.

We are all in consensus which is rare for this board. But there is something glaring that I acknowledge. Mick always needs money. His 2 highest awards would be his Grammy and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He sold the RRHOF award. Lindsey even insinuated that one reason he agreed to do Tango was help Mick out financially. He fired Lindsey to help himself out financially. I cant see Mick ignoring one last chance at a big pay day. Sure he can have fun with the Zoo and Lindsey. But we all know who he needs for a big pay day. I believe he will call her and beg her to make amends and do it for him. History always repeats itself. I also think he is so desperate that he will find a replacement for his side kick John. Mick has done whatever he needs to do to make money even if it involves firing his guitarist, begging Chris for money, selling off his awards, etc. He was not a song writer. He does not get much on album sales. He needs to play gigs for money.

It's ridiculous.

So who's more pathetic? Mick or Lindsey?

Maybe he just wants to mimic her doing Rhiannon again!

Yeah--something else had to have occurred. LB and Mick have both referred to a general band unhappiness "about the way things were." That suggests an ongoing interpersonal and/or professional problem. I remember Rolling Stone article from 2015 (2016?) where Christine was astonished that they were still fighting, that their problems "should have been resolved a long time ago."

The Buckingham Fleetwood idea is the most feasible…
featuring Mcvie for maybe two numbers…..The Chain with John’s iconic bass line being one of them.

No appearance from Stevie, so as a nod to her, Lindsey would have to sing one of her numbers..
Storms for instance.

Musicians are paid for TRAVELING, not for playing. There's NO WAY John is doing this.

Sorry. :xoxo:

I think Crystal would be the better choice.

Please don't eat cebiche that day.

Do you mean cerviche? I love it!

I hope you enjoy projectile "raw" seafood!

Hint- wear a poncho! :lol:

That was 37 years ago. Part of the reason he went with Carl Stubner after Dennis retired is because Carl was a money guy, first, and set Mick up with a financial manager.

“And Mr. Fleetwood is now planning to turn over the bulk of his funds to David Manashe, a friend of Mr. Stubner and a stock broker at Dean Witter Reynolds, a unit of Morgan Stanley, Dean Witter, Discover & Company.”

So, he has someone looking over his money and the child support days are over, with the younger daughters being 22.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/30/b...-tomorrow.html

Whatever bankruptcies that have been reported since were for businesses, not his personal finances. Anything else is him licensing his name.

Plus, his property in Hawaii has to be worth a small fortune.

If John is still up for sailing, stick him, Mick and Lindsey on a cruise ship. Now there's a Rumours night for you!

He might agree to a residency somewhere, but I doubt even that. John is smarter than the rest of them.

Of course, and obviously peruvian cebiche is the best.

https://img-global.cpcdn.com/recipes...-principal.jpg

From what I heard on my end, she was not so much astonished (i think their behavior was almost expected by then) as just fed up and disgusted that the same issues were being rehashed so venomously, for so long, with no real progress ever made. almost anything became an issue to bicker over.

I think maybe LB feels some guilt at this point, as someone else said. maybe with the passage of time he can more clearly see his own fault in what happened...? i think he's the type who would like to be the one that said 'well I tried, i held out the olive branch, she didn't take it' so as to deflect some of the assholey reputation all that brought him?

At this point i would maybe like to see Mick doing something with Lindsey...? leave stevie and her drama out of it, she seems happy on her own. i think mick and LB might get some enjoyment of some sort of project together because they seem to get on well. hopefully mick isn't too desperate for $ and is living within his means. and imo John is just done and would have no real interest in playing again at all. I hope he is enjoying the hell out of his boat... occasionally smoking a relaxing joint as he catches tons of fish and reads some really good books, and maybe finds some peace in his lifetime of memories.

--Lis

And let's not forget Mick recently sold his share of FM publishing to Hipgnosis or whomever for a massive lump sum of money. his comment at the time was that getting this lump of cash now would allow him to do a number of things that he otherwise would have had to space out over time (ie as money came in from subsequent FM tours). Let's see how well it works for him having a money manager... I predict in a few years, because he won't keep tabs on his money, he could easily find out he's been swindled out of millions. Then what does he do?? I wouldn't assume he's not still financing the lives of his daughters -- both the younger ones and even the older ones and any grandchildren they may have produced. And god knows how many 'helpers' he has.... he did have one assistant with him when I went to one of his meet and greets several years ago (who kinda creeped me out and frankly didn't seem very bright, but very impressed with himself nonetheless...). And there's no income from the restaurant and gift shop in Maui anymore...

That’s been in place since the mid-90s. The quote was from 1997. The money manager was a friend of Carl’s and worked for Morgan Stanley, so I doubt that’s the kind of situation where getting swindled is likely. Furthermore, that would be grounds for one hell of a lawsuit.

Most of those people are tour specific.

I wonder how much that actually brought in. It seems like something like that would have a massive overhead. And, did he actually own the business or was he more of an advisor who licensed his name? I’m sure there was some money, but probably not enough to support his lifestyle.

I know exactly who you're talking about. That person was perfect for running a rural one floor motel that still uses hard keys.

:eek: :nod: :wavey:

No comment.:laugh:

Never heard of it, but I'll try anything once.

This right here, is a FANTASTIC insult. I will be using it in the future.