Stream Mick, LB, SN Interview with Redbeard
 

In The Studio with Redbeard for Rumours 35th Anniversary:

http://www.inthestudio.net/this-week...leetwood-mac-2

When California musical duo (and lovers) Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined British blues-rock veteran band Fleetwood Mac, their first collaboration in 1975 (their “white album” ) sold more copies than any previous album in the long history of their label . No one was in any way prepared for this new line-up’s stunning initial success , so you can imagine the in-house anticipation for Fleetwood Mac’s next effort . They had to wait a full year for it , however , as four of the five members were breaking up literally in the studio while Rumours was being recorded . Fleetwood Mac co-founder drummer Mick Fleetwood joins Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks with me In The Studio for the 35th anniversary of one of history’s most popular albums ever at around forty million sold worldwide ( half of that U.S. sales ), an album that Rolling Stone magazine ranks at #25 on their Top 500 All Time list .- Redbeard

Thank for the heads up.On my local station last night they had a different Redbeard show on the air.Of course my local station probably screw up on this FM show like they did with Stevie's Redbeard interview.

just listened to it. was a bit surprised about lindsey's answer to the RS visionary question. mainly the bitterness about FM not giving him the producer credit for rumours. maybe he's thinking of all the money he's losing with all these recent rumours sales... and i'm imagining how many solo albums and tours we could have had if he did get that credit?!

EDIT: LB part of the interview was recorded in 2007. so italicized part is my incorrect speculation based on the assumption that the interview was more recent.

Perhaps... but I think it's his bitterness with Fleetwood Mac which has always driven his solo career. It was the band's reaction against Tusk which largely pushed Lindsey's experimentations into a solo career (because they were no longer welcome within the band). The frustration with the band that lead him to abandon the group fueled the best album of his career: Out Of The Cradle. If Lindsey was always pleased with the band, he probably never would have made any solo albums at all. It's his frustration with Fleetwood Mac which seems to almost solely drive him as an artist. It's kinda interesting that that's what his muse is.

that's interesting twist you bring up... i agree with the bolded part of course, he said that himself many times - it's his stock answer about tusk, right before he launches into his small machine talk:laugh:. but a producer credit for rumours (which one can think of more as a business-related thing) would have nothing to do with his post-tusk music-related frustrations. which really resulted in L&O and GI, not necessarily OOTC.

his leaving the band seemed to have more to do with the personal closures that he wanted, not necessarily musical frustrations. and i could argue that GOS1 would have probably been the best album of his career - but it was ruined by WBs asking him to take it apart to put parts on the FM album.

what i was originally trying to say is that i'm surprised he's bringing the producer non-credit now - and in response to a question about Rolling Stone magazine calling him a visionary. i don't know whether he's just taking shots at Mick or i should re-think what Not Too Late is really about.:confused:

Lindsey calls the shots on what songs go on what album. WB had the power to put his solo release on hold and encouraged the FM reunion but WB didn't have anything to do with the songs - that's the producer's prerogative.

yeah yeah :p :laugh: - so you don't think that WB or Cavallo suggested that some of the GOS1 songs should go on FM album?

so what did you think of the interview? SHN, NGBA and GYOW responses?

Hehehe... :angel: No, I don't think WB or Cavallo had anything to do with the songs.

I've only listened to half - I have a splitting headache. I was surprised at LB's candor. He was finally talking like normal people talk. :laugh:

This isn't current though, is it? Didn't they piece this together a few years ago? Mick mentioned Sara so I know his isn't recent.

lol re bolded part. that is maybe why he normally doesn't talk like normal people - too much candor!!

that's what i was thinking after hearing it. that it can't be recent. and that Mick and LB taking shots at each other cannot bode well for any future FM albums. maybe it's from 10 years ago? b/c it seem like LB says ...5th anniversary of rumours and it's cut out which anniversary he really mentioned.

responding to my own post but - what does this have to do with not getting a credit for producing rumours? not much to me - producing rumours was in the past, these lyrics are set in present and talk about future:

Reading the paper saw a review
Said I was a visionary, but nobody knew
Now that's been a problem
feeling unseen
Just like I'm living somebody's dream

What am I doing anyway
Telling myself it's not too late

I'm not a young man but I'm a child in
my soul
I feel there's room for songs that
are sung
For chances not taken for deeds not
yet done

What am I doing anyway
Telling myself it's not too late

My children look away they don't know
what to say
My children look away they don't know
what to say

So that's been a problem
feeling unheard
So called visions always deferred
It must be the reason I developed
this need
You know you should never believe
what you read

What am I doing anyway
Telling myself it's not too late

My children look away they don't know
what to say
My children look away they don't know
what to say

(LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM - NOT TOO LATE LYRICS)

I love this interview. Hearing Lindsey speak w/o editing himself is so unusual - and soooo cool. Kudos to Redbeard for getting Lindsey to open up. He seriously needs to sit Lindsey down for another one-on-one.

re. when was this interview done? I'm thinking 2007...

This was w/ the NGBA audio that was posted on the site with the interview...

"When the reclusive Lindsey Buckingham surprised us with a visit to my Dallas/Ft.Worth radio show in 1992, it was understood that the conversation was in support of his third solo album , Out of the Cradle . But when Buckingham offered up this live performance of his composition “Never Going Back Again” , made famous on the Rumours Fleetwood Mac album 15 years earlier , it signaled that his reticence to discuss those emotionally-charged years had lifted , at least enough to grant the interview found elsewhere in our Classic Rock Interview archive. But true to form , Lindsey made me wait almost another 15 years for that opportunity . -Redbeard".

yeah. and Nickslive just pointed out that Lindsey was playing Ft Worth in Jan 2007, on his UTS tour. so it all fits. Lindsey's part was from 2007. Nickslive thinks that Mick's is probably from some time in early 2000s, while Stevie's is much much older than that (possibly even 80s).

I'm not sure if I thought it lasted all the way to 2007, but I know definitely after the SYW tour Stevie was mad at Lindsey and Lindsey was mad at both Stevie and Mick and accused them of -- actually I don't remember the exact word offhand. Was it canoodling, consorting, cavorting, conspiring, some kind of hard "c" sound he accused them of doing together. That's when he said Mick and Stevie were planning the next tour to play up the SnL romance and wanted to put Stevie and Lindsey's mics close together on the stage and he was sounding like he was over that.

So, around 2005 or 2006 I would expect harsher comments from him about them, because that's where he seemed to be coming from at that time. Then, he kind of mellowed out.

Michele

wow, never seen that stated so plainly! there's a lot i'm still missing apparently:D. do you happen to know where he said that?

either way, i'm glad these are not recent interviews b/c i was a bit worried... still, definitely fun to listen to.:nod:

It would help me to search for the interview if I could remember the present participle. I know I mocked him at the time, but I was doing it on fmlegacy and not this board and I can't find the interview, but I'll post when I do.

Michele

Ok, I found it. The hard "c" word I wanted to remember was cahoots.
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph...v2&id=6519&c=9

This interview is from November 2006, so close to Redbeard.

Lindsey is just being devilish here because the two worse SnL things on the SYW tour were instigated by him. The Tusk Dance and Say Goodbye. I don't think Stevie was ever comfortable with the Tusk Dance. She didn't mind Say Goodbye, but in the end Lindsey began to get a little more personal with his intro and she did get more nervous and emotional. LB may or may not have been playing up to the crowd, but it wasn't because Mick or Stevie put him up to it. He does that stuff himself. Now with the Sara hug, that might very well have been Stevie's idea. Silver Springs dynamics during the Dance tour were probably partly her [but Lindsey's idea to chase her, looked like his]. But half the stuff he does on his own initiative Stevie didn't come up to say to him, "Hey, at the end of Don't Stop, why don't you come up and rub your face in my hair." He thinks those things up.

Michele

EXACTLY! That's too funny. And, yes "nervous" is the perfect description for Stevie's demeanor! For instance, she was hella nervous during his speech at AHI 2000 when he asked her to stay there for a mintue and she just hid behind him with only her deer in headlights eyes peering over his shoulder...that wasn't for the show...

I don't know that the Sara hug was Stevie's doing though. It started out with her just walking off and then he actually began following her, kissing her arm as she walked away. It seemed as though she acquiesced to the hug to avoid him doing that. LOL.

thanks for finding that. :)

so now you reminded me of the tusk dance... somebody recently posted a gif of his tusk dance somewhere in the lindsey forum - that part right after the slow dance when he goes completely nuts... and i can't remember in which thread it was and i can't find it now :(:distress:. nobody but lindsey can come up with such craziness :xoxo:. same with his monkey dance.:laugh:

Is this the post you are thinking of (scroll down)? It's in the Lindsey This or That thread.

Unleashed origin?
 

from that interview in 2006:

"Tearing certain things down and doing what was appropriate for what already existed as the band. That's probably one of the reasons I had so much fun on the road a couple of years ago. It was just more unleashed."

thanks for looking. i did find that one - his monkey dance before Stand Back.

but i couldn't find the one which is still a part of Tusk, right after he's done slow-dancing with stevie and he's walking/dancing away from her. doesn't seem to be in the photos or youtube threads, or in "this or that" one.

the gif i'm looking for contained just 5:14-5:20 of this video:

^Try the SnL intimacy thread

thanks. can't find it there either... maybe i'm just blind.:shrug:

EDIT: found it, although not in the recent thread i was thinking of but here http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpo...29&postcount=5

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/...GIFs/tusk3.gif

again, just your everyday lindsey craziness :laugh:

Speaking of Unleashed, I said when they first announced that tour when Stevie made her funny little snarky comment, "Unleashed and on the street" (which elicited a cute smirk from LB) that FM must be without a label. Turns out that was true.

yeah, regarding his intro to Say Goodbye, in the beginning of the tour ... didn't he actually intro it saying it was specifically about Stevie??? then after a few shows he didn't actually say her name?? i've always thought she put the kibosh on that? (too emotional for her maybe?)

When I saw the shows, he was saying her name and she said it was emotional throughout the tour, but it was during the last week of shows, I could actually see her looking emotional. It was the last show that I saw that he turned to her and said, "it's been too many years. Or maybe it hasn't been enough."

He said that the night before he said something in the intro that she didn't like and he knows she didn't want him to talk about it anymore and she said, "it's your song. Say whatever you want." So, I always said that I wish I had been there that night before.

But Lindsey was doing thank yous and stuff during those last shows and he was mentioning his father and brother and Cory and how proud Greg would be of her and he was kind of choked up for those intros too. Michele

Hi, Louie!

I think you're right. He found himself in a band full of musical reactionaries, & his pipe dream of rewriting the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys history was dashed. (Lindsey says that Wilson's desire to try new styles of music marginalized him in his band, which ultimately stranded him.) I think that, for a short time at least, Lindsey had genuine confidence in Fleetwood Mac's future as an experimental band--a band that refused to follow the commercial dictates of the mass audience (always wanting more of the same), but in so doing, a band that would be able to reshape the audience's preferences, to actually improve the audience's taste & sense of adventure.

Oh my goodness, that's just wrong. :xoxo:

In the core, this is what made me a lifetime Fleetwood Mac Fan. During Tusk I discovered the backcatalogue of FM pre-BN, and since Tusk really teached me about what art is, or what it could be, I believed in this huge band as a musical innovative monster. I had heard Then Play on, Future Games and Mystery to Me and concluded that this band had always had an edge of experiment in it's roots. To this day, I believe that they still have it in them, as long as Lindsey gets the room to build it in dialogue with enough good material that he did NOT write and with the counterinfluences of the two ladies and the rythmsection. But they have to BE there and fight him!!!

New Stevie/Mick/Lindsey Interview (Sorta)
 

Surprisingly Fleetwood Mac is back to full strength with the mid ’70s line up that made them international superstars, and three of them, singer/songwriter/guitarist Lindsey Buckingham, singer/songwriter Stevie Nicks, and band co-founder Mick Fleetwood join us In the Studio on the eve of their North American tour for some of their most popular songs. -Redbeard

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It looks like it is coming September 15 but their is a preview in the link above

Anti-Music 12/8/2015

http://www.antimusic.com/news/15/Dec...s_Online.shtml

(ITS) Syndicated radio show InTheStudio with Redbeard: The Stories Behind History's Greatest Rock Bands have released a two part Fleetwood Mac special where Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham, and Mick Fleetwood look back on the Tusk album. The show sent over the following details:
Imagine an entire season of the reality tv series Survivor if it had been filmed in a locked down recording studio instead of a remote island, and with guitars instead of spears, and you have the story of Fleetwood Mac's 1979 double opus Tusk. Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks bare their souls dealing with the phenomenon of superstardom following the record-setting Rumours, all the while lifting the curtain on the songs "Think About Me", "Storms", "The Ledge", "That's All for Everyone", Stevie's magnum opus "Sara", and the filial fantasy "Sisters of the Moon".

Tusk has some of the most frank, illuminating revelations about love, ambition, artistic integrity vs. the pressures of commerce, youth, regret, and yes, music that you will ever hear this side of a therapist's couch. Lindsey Buckingham shares with InTheStudio host Redbeard the collective fear that threatened the creative process for Fleetwood Mac.

"There was a danger of all of us slipping into the caricature of ourselves at that point...What you don't want it to do is let celebrity affect your thinking about how you see yourself, and more importantly, how you think about making music and the reasons you're making music." - Lindsey Buckingham

Listen to the part one of 'The Story of Tusk' special here and part two can be streamed here.