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Villavic 12-18-2023 09:56 AM

Which member has the highest net worth?
 
This article published in july 2023 Lindsey Buckingham Tops The List With $150 Million (250 before the divorce or so I understand. Christine and Stevie are mentioned with close but smaller numbers ($105M and $120M respectively). I don't know how reliable is that info. Christine and Stevie got far more singles, I'm not sure but at first sight it should mean far more profit?

Though Lindsey partially produced some albums. I don't know if that mean he got more money from album sales.

Or it just mean he was more organized with his investments and savings.

https://www.thethings.com/which-flee...of%20marriage.

lbfan 12-18-2023 10:06 AM

Lindsey was/is Frugal
 
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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290588)
This article published in july 2023 Lindsey Buckingham Tops The List With $150 Million (250 before the divorce or so I understand. Christine and Stevie are mentioned with close but smaller numbers ($105M and $120M respectively). I don't know how reliable is that info. Christine and Stevie got far more singles, I'm not sure but at first sight it should mean far more profit?

Though Lindsey partially produced some albums. I don't know if that mean he got more money from album sales.

Or it just mean he was more organized with his investments and savings.

https://www.thethings.com/which-flee...of%20marriage.

Lindsey likely bought weed, but wasn’t much of a cocaine user (probably just took part in the band purchase). On a podcast, it was noted that he never bought anyone gifts. Although he took his Out of the Cradle band to Hawaii after that tour. His tours the last 15 years probably broke even at best. His albums have not been huge sellers, as he has probably been releasing new music for his legacy. He and his (ex?) wife were into flipping houses in Southern California, and with the hot real estate market, likely increased his net worth.

bwboy 12-18-2023 10:11 AM

Just from touring alone, Stevie would have to have the highest net worth. They all sold their music catalogues so at this point, they’re all sitting pretty. I mean, let’s say Stevie sold hers for $100 million and Lindsey sold his for $90 million and Christine sold hers for $80 million…. I mean, wealthy is wealthy no matter who has the highest actual net worth. I would say all three had good returns on their investments, but just from touring alone, it’s hard to believe Stevie didn’t have a higher net worth.

HomerMcvie 12-18-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1290590)
Just from touring alone, Stevie would have to have the highest net worth. They all sold their music catalogues so at this point, they’re all sitting pretty. I mean, let’s say Stevie sold hers for $100 million and Lindsey sold his for $90 million and Christine sold hers for $80 million…. I mean, wealthy is wealthy no matter who has the highest actual net worth. I would say all three had good returns on their investments, but just from touring alone, it’s hard to believe Stevie didn’t have a higher net worth.

Not when you look at the way she lives. Keeping all those loser "yes friends" on your payroll can't be cheap.
Celebrity Net Worth says that Lindsey is the richest, with 150M. Stevie is at 120M. Searching Christine kept taking me to links about her death, so I gave up on her.
So the apparent answer is Lindsey, and also that you're wrong. :p

aleuzzi 12-18-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290593)
Not when you look at the way she lives. Keeping all those loser "yes friends" on your payroll can't be cheap.
Celebrity Net Worth says that Lindsey is the richest, with 150M. Stevie is at 120M. Searching Christine kept taking me to links about her death, so I have up on her.
So the apparent answer is Lindsey, and also that you're wrong. :p

Before Christine’s death and the parsing of her estate, a basic Google search often said:

Stevie 150 mil
Lindsey 125 mil
Christine 120 mil
John 85 mil

Mick’s with fluctuates but never exceeds 20 mil—and is often much less.

Macfan4life 12-18-2023 11:58 AM

Mick has to be the worst business person ever. The band always bailed him out but it was never enough. More bad investments and the cycle repeats. He needs meet and greets with fans to stay afloat.

I am fascinated with the mid 90s with the band members. Mick was still touring and staying in seedy Best Western Hotels on the interstate. I get that because they were playing clubs back then.
Stevie was rich but sort of panicked. She saw her career over with Fleetwood Mac and her solo career flaming out. She was touring by bus. She was even afraid to cut a video for her first Street Angel video because she thought it was too much money to waste. Its the last time many of them thought about money. Post Dance changed everything.

bwboy 12-18-2023 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290593)
Not when you look at the way she lives. Keeping all those loser "yes friends" on your payroll can't be cheap.
Celebrity Net Worth says that Lindsey is the richest, with 150M. Stevie is at 120M. Searching Christine kept taking me to links about her death, so I gave up on her.
So the apparent answer is Lindsey, and also that you're wrong. :p

I’m just thankful that all their accountants were so willing to share this accurate and confidential information on the internet so we could discuss their wealth freely and openly :laugh:

bwboy 12-18-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1290597)
Stevie was rich but sort of panicked. She saw her career over with Fleetwood Mac and her solo career flaming out. She was touring by bus. She was even afraid to cut a video for her first Street Angel video because she thought it was too much money to waste.

Money may have played a part in that, but I bet Stevie also felt uncomfortable with the idea of filming a video because of her weight at the time. Supposedly she made a video for Unconditional Love that has never seen the light of day, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was because she didn’t like how she looked in it.

HomerMcvie 12-18-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1290599)
I’m just thankful that all their accountants were so willing to share this accurate and confidential information on the internet so we could discuss their wealth freely and openly :laugh:

Like OMFG, my queen $tevie isn't the richest, and I CAN'T HANDLE IT! *runs away screaming*

bwboy 12-18-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1290603)
Like OMFG, my queen $tevie isn't the richest, and I CAN'T HANDLE IT! *runs away screaming*

I just don’t believe everything I read on the internet like you do, apparently.

Macfan4life 12-18-2023 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1290600)
Money may have played a part in that, but I bet Stevie also felt uncomfortable with the idea of filming a video because of her weight at the time. Supposedly she made a video for Unconditional Love that has never seen the light of day, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was because she didn’t like how she looked in it.

That's maybe true. I am only going off her statements in 1994. In a pre-release Street Angel promo interview she is asked if there would be a video and she said it depends on how well the record sells. Later on during the tour and dismal sales she is asked by a radio DJ about videos and she says something like its a waste of money to spend $75,000 on a video where she may need that money someday if she is living in a condo in her older years. You can sense she was a bit nervous about her post Fleetwood Mac life and a solo career that was running out of steam.

Lindsey said that one of the reasons he did Tango was to get Mick out of bankruptcy. He did not say those exact words but almost. Chris reluctantly did the Dance in the USA because she was so willing for Mick. She would not even extend in Europe for him. That's probably the only time she has said NO to Mick. Mick sensed Fleetwood Mac would be coming to an end and made a very long world tour in 1990. Stevie was not happy for all those long European dates and publicly said so. She agreed with a world tour but was upset with how many dates there were. With the long tour and the delay with Chris's father's passing, her Timespace project was majorly delayed. She missed her Bon Jovi wave by 7 months.
That darn Mick! Always trying to squeeze the last cent.

BigAl84 12-18-2023 02:59 PM

Lindsey and his wife have done quite a few large, lucrative real estate flips over the past 10+ years. I wouldn't be shocked if he came out on top.

In Your Dreams 12-18-2023 03:14 PM

I was at the concert in Milwaukee when they filmed the Blue Denim video. They played Blue Denim a number of times on the sound system while they shot the footage of her and the band “performing” onstage.

It would be interesting to see the Unconditional Love video if one exists. I know that was the intended first single before MLWCYM was recorded and all the release delays because of rehab. I’m assuming they filmed that a year earlier when the album was originally supposed to drop.

Touring is where the money is and she knows that, and she will continue to cash in as long as she can. They all could have been a lot richer (if it even matters to them - I know it probably does for Mick) if not for all the excesses they enjoyed when they toured in the 70s and 80s. But I doubt they would have done anything different if given the chance.

Villavic 12-18-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1290608)
Lindsey said that one of the reasons he did Tango was to get Mick out of bankruptcy. He did not say those exact words but almost.

Mick implied that in his book.

jbrownsjr 12-18-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290612)
Mick implied that in his book.

Just shows who decision it was "in total" to get rid of Lindsey in 2018. I do know that Lindsey and Christine were very helpful during MF bankruptcy.

FuzzyPlum 12-18-2023 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1290597)
Mick has to be the worst business person ever. The band always bailed him out but it was never enough. More bad investments and the cycle repeats. He needs meet and greets with fans to stay afloat.

I am fascinated with the mid 90s with the band members. Mick was still touring and staying in seedy Best Western Hotels on the interstate. I get that because they were playing clubs back then.
Stevie was rich but sort of panicked. She saw her career over with Fleetwood Mac and her solo career flaming out. She was touring by bus. She was even afraid to cut a video for her first Street Angel video because she thought it was too much money to waste. Its the last time many of them thought about money. Post Dance changed everything.

Mick is blessed with an inverse Midas touch.
Everything he touches turns to…..

FuzzyPlum 12-18-2023 05:31 PM

I get that touring is where the money is…..but if you have over 100 mill to your name, why would anyone feel the need to go chasing more money at that ages? Too much hard work.
Crafting some new music would be much more satisfying and relaxing for an old timer!!!!

HomerMcvie 12-18-2023 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1290616)
I get that touring is where the money is…..but if you have over 100 mill to your name, why would anyone feel the need to go chasing more money at that ages? Too much hard work.
Crafting some new music would be much more satisfying and relaxing for an old timer!!!!

I've said that forever. Especially after 70. Why would anyone want to do that?

I almost "get it" for $tevie. I mean, she never got a real life of her own, so it's all she's got. But if you've got 3 kids and a 100M, what is your motivation for making another five million?

Macfan4life 12-18-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290612)
Mick implied that in his book.

You and that darn book!

Yes in Lindsey's rage he let his sentiments come out.

Macfan4life 12-18-2023 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1290616)
I get that touring is where the money is…..but if you have over 100 mill to your name, why would anyone feel the need to go chasing more money at that ages? Too much hard work.
Crafting some new music would be much more satisfying and relaxing for an old timer!!!!

Stevie chases the fame dragon. Her drug is walking on stage every night to a packed arena that loves to hear her tell the stories over and over. This is what she lives for. The money is definitely nice but she lives to be worshipped by her fans. Clearly she does not need the money but she sold her soul like most older rockers to the concert promoters. They pretty much tell her what to play these days. Not a coincidence IMHO that when her tour started earlier this year she played every single Fleetwood Mac single (except Seven Wonders). She has never done that on a tour before. She eventually dropped Sara when she flubbed it. But I can almost hear the concert promoters say "Fleetwood Mac is dead so we want you to do all your Fleetwood Mac hits."

bombaysaffires 12-19-2023 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1290610)
Lindsey and his wife have done quite a few large, lucrative real estate flips over the past 10+ years. I wouldn't be shocked if he came out on top.

Yes, Lindsey was always smart with his investments and such. And Stevie once said he gets producer money on all their records in addition to artist/songwriter money.

Also, Stevie wasn't so smart in the beginning... she gave away royalties or portions of the royalties to her songs to pals and boyfriends. In addition to giving royalties to Silver Springs to her mom, it has been reported (maybe someone else knows if true) that she for instance gave some portion of the royalties for Sara to Hernan, and similar with other songs... supposedly many of her biggest hits.. I can't imagine Howard Kaufman or Irving or anyone else who manages her (Google says it's currently Sheryl Louis who was partners with Howard but not sure) letting her do that now, but back then.... Google also claims Glen Parrish managed her for a time (??) which... yikes if true. So..... she could have screwed up her financials early on and that may have had some repercussions down the line. I recall her saying in the midst of her solo career that her dad was on tour with her at one point and told her she needed to run her operation better and eventually when she didn't she said he just left the tour.

Not saying she's broke or even close, but can see how between bad business sense (anyone recall her investing in a nightclub in Texas?), giving away song royalties, and supporting the Colombian cartels almost single-handedly (free coke to her entourage)....it makes sense Lindsey could well have more net worth than her.

aleuzzi 12-19-2023 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1290616)
I get that touring is where the money is…..but if you have over 100 mill to your name, why would anyone feel the need to go chasing more money at that ages? Too much hard work.
Crafting some new music would be much more satisfying and relaxing for an old timer!!!!

If Christine had had her way, she’d have done just that with the band, after 1998. I was always so pissed that, from the Dance onward, Mac put more emphasis on greatest hits tours than new music.

In several interviews over the years, including one of her last ones, she talks about always being game to do a studio project with the band. On her own, she needed some coaxing because she didn’t want to lead. Can you imagine at least one or two more Mac albums from the 2000s with all five of them, without the worry of touring?

Villavic 12-19-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1290618)
You and that darn book!

Sorry but it's the only book I got. Now if you want to give me his second book for Christmas, I have no problem with that. Fancy edition please ;) .

DownOnRodeo 12-19-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290630)
Sorry but it's the only book I got. Now if you want to give me his second book for Christmas, I have no problem with that. Fancy edition please ;) .

I appreciate your quotes from Mick's book. (I also laughed at Macfan4life's post:lol:)


This article is guff. Possibly generated with the help of AI?
I mean, Lindsey having 250 million? Divorced? Settlement? Successful solo career?

Villavic 12-19-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1290631)
This article is guff. Possibly generated with the help of AI?
I mean, Lindsey having 250 million? Divorced? Settlement? Successful solo career?

I don't know how reliable the article is. Some data makes no sense. It says Christine net worth is $105 M. But in 2018 she told Lindsey she had to continue with the band (after his firing) because she had just bought a house (or so I read). How much was that house?? Bigger and more expensive than Jennifer Anniston house that costs $21 M?? She was 75, did she need a house with pool, cascade and hanging gardens?

jbrownsjr 12-19-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290633)
I don't know how reliable the article is. Some data makes no sense. It says Christine net worth is $105 M. But in 2018 she told Lindsey she had to continue with the band (after his firing) because she had just bought a house (or so I read). How much was that house?? Bigger and more expensive than Jennifer Anniston house that costs $21 M?? She was 75, did she need a house with pool, cascade and hanging gardens?

I deal with folks that have millions in net worth, but sometimes they run out of cash. She probably needed the tour check so she didn't have to fund her checking account to pay for the house (down payment) and furniture, etc.

Cash is king.

Penguin Emeritus 12-19-2023 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1290633)
I don't know how reliable the article is. Some data makes no sense. It says Christine net worth is $105 M. But in 2018 she told Lindsey she had to continue with the band (after his firing) because she had just bought a house (or so I read). How much was that house?? Bigger and more expensive than Jennifer Anniston house that costs $21 M?? She was 75, did she need a house with pool, cascade and hanging gardens?

I've always thought that was just her excuse, because much as she loved and valued Lindsey, she definitely didn't want to leave the tour. She'd finally come back from those years of isolation and was happy in many areas of her life. I think the 'house' she mentioned was her huge London flat that she upgraded to after she sold her Kent house and other smaller London place. That was some prime real estate!!


--Lis

Macfan4life 12-19-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1290639)
I've always thought that was just her excuse, because much as she loved and valued Lindsey, she definitely didn't want to leave the tour. She'd finally come back from those years of isolation and was happy in many areas of her life. I think the 'house' she mentioned was her huge London flat that she upgraded to after she sold her Kent house and other smaller London place. That was some prime real estate!!


--Lis

Exactly. That was the lamest excuse ever. She just sold her English estate for tens of millions more than she paid (I know she put millions into it). She was good with her money but it was the saddest part of Christine's legacy.

jbrownsjr 12-19-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1290639)
I've always thought that was just her excuse, because much as she loved and valued Lindsey, she definitely didn't want to leave the tour. She'd finally come back from those years of isolation and was happy in many areas of her life. I think the 'house' she mentioned was her huge London flat that she upgraded to after she sold her Kent house and other smaller London place. That was some prime real estate!!


--Lis

Agreed, and she really didn't have to explain herself. She just did come back after 15 years and that WAR between the two ego maniacs was not really her deal.

And we don't know what her checking looks like. She may have had funds tied up in escrow, etc. It's none of anyone's business. I'm glad she did reach out to him. Those two had chemistry in humor, music, and friendship. LB seemed to understand that she shouldn't have to give up millions of dollars and her career in an effort to constantly intervene between those two imbeciles.

Macfan4life 12-19-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290641)
Agreed, and she really didn't have to explain herself. She just did come back after 15 years and that WAR between the two ego maniacs was not really her deal.

And we don't know what her checking looks like. She may have had funds tied up in escrow, etc. It's none of anyone's business. I'm glad she did reach out to him. Those two had chemistry in humor, music, and friendship. LB seemed to understand that she shouldn't have to give up millions of dollars and her career in an effort to constantly intervene between those two imbeciles.

But she could have stopped it. She went along with Mick and Stevie and then justified her "inaction" by saying she just bought a house? She made probably at least 7 million from the OWTS tour (after taxes). She probably made over 10 million on her profit of the sale of her estate. She was always making Rumours royalties and was always good with her money. She did not need to say "sweet little lies" claiming she had no money and needed to go along with the sinister plan to fire Lindsey. That along with keeping Bob out of the RRHOF are her low points. But they have one thing in common....backing Mick.
When she said that, I first interpreted it to mean she just bought a house and was too busy to partake in the discussions. But that is not what she meant. She had to have been briefed and agreed to go along or not protest Stevie's wishes. I bet she would back Mick over any money amount she would have made on that 2018 tour. Chris was one of the wealthiest rockers who retired with the good life. If anyone believes that Christine F***ing McVie needed money in 2018, I want to sell you one of Stevie's platinum Street Angel records.

aleuzzi 12-19-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1290641)
Agreed, and she really didn't have to explain herself. She just did come back after 15 years and that WAR between the two ego maniacs was not really her deal.

Amen! Those two make their own beds. When I think of how often Christine accommodated the band members musically and emotionally, I am not at all sad she did what she did. Did that tour make sense without Lindsey? No. But she saw her chance to make $ and leave a large pile to her family.

jbrownsjr 12-19-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1290645)
Amen! Those two make their own beds. When I think of how often Christine accommodated the band members musically and emotionally, I am not at all sad she did what she did. Did that tour make sense without Lindsey? No. But she saw her chance to make $ and leave a large pile to her family.

Exactly, it was a mgmt decision backed by "you know who", and she was new man on the totem pole AND "pickle in the middle".

Also, I have no idea what's in her checking account, people often assume you have no bills. Especially, when you're not working for 15 years, AND, you live in a very high taxed country.
Thank God she came back and did all that she did. I'm still amazed we got her in 2018. It would have been atrocious if FM would have gone on without her. Especially, after we had just had her come back. Again, wasn't her WAR.

Macfan4life 12-19-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1290639)
I've always thought that was just her excuse, because much as she loved and valued Lindsey, she definitely didn't want to leave the tour. She'd finally come back from those years of isolation and was happy in many areas of her life. I think the 'house' she mentioned was her huge London flat that she upgraded to after she sold her Kent house and other smaller London place. That was some prime real estate!!


--Lis

You are right. Chris had a choice. If she stood up the tour would not have happened without Chris and Lindsey. Mick was the one that needed money. I can almost hear him begging her to go along so the tour would happen. She would never tell Lindsey that she is doing it for Mick. Mick needed Stevie. Mick needed money. Everything else is disposable.


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