“What the hell is he doing?”: The album Christine initially hated
I think this article has not been commented. It's rom the same webpage of the article I found today (and reviewed in Lindsey's forum). I hadn't read about Christine's feelings on Tusk (After reading the whole article I think hated is exaggerated). Though the article mentions this:
Out of all the members of The Mac, McVie was always the one who never wrote a bad song. Well, she was Perfect but nobody is perfect. IMHO, the first one that comes to my mind is Ricky. I think I could continue living happily without that song in this world. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/fleetwo...e-mcvie-hated/ |
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------ "In the wake of Tusk, Nicks would eventually leave the band for a solo career, leaving the group in limbo while everyone worked on solo projects." ------ Everyone was doing their own things, and she didn't leave the band. I do agree that Ricky sucks, though. |
This article is not really anything new or new substance. Take off the Tusk colored glasses of how Tusk is revered by the band and critics today. Mick says its his favorite album now. But rewind time it changed everything about the band. The other band members were not happy with the process but let Lindsey do his thing for fear he would leave the band. It was a commercial success but it was considered a flop in 1980. The Mac was on top of the world prior to Tusk. Tusk was a reality check for the band with critics and fans. Fans were yelling at Lindsey on stage and accusing him of selling out. Chris came off Rumours with 2 huge top 10 hits. Her single was only a mild hit from Tusk. The band was not happy and at the end of the tour each of them hired their own manager and rumors Stevie was leaving the band started. Its horrific that one of the biggest bands in the world went on a huge world tour promoting an album. Captured on tape and released on vinyl is Chris telling the audience "We have not played anything from Tusk yet so were going to try some out tonight for you. This is the first track from side one." No applause from the audience. No cheering. No other band would have such fickled fans turning on the band. Even at the US Festival after Lindsey introduces a song from Tusk, Chris says "the album you all hated." Tusk forever changed the band so of course in real time they were not happy about it. During the Gypsy MTV interview Stevie is asked about Mirage and she sort of gives a mild swipe to Tusk saying "I like the music more compared to Tusk. Its more like Rumours." The band felt left out. The album hurt their pride and the Mac lost some of their audience. Rock statings were playing the hell out of the White Album and Rumours. Rock stations shunned the single Tusk and Sara. The post Tusk world had solo careers and the band chasing commercial success with Mirage and Tango. The Tusk hangover lingered.
Fast forward today and even Stevie said in 1990 that Tusk was ahead of its time and critics love it. But it was not unusual for Chris or anyone in the band to talk bad about Tusk in the Tusk era. |
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The only thing worse is "Skies the Limit." Other turds are "Easy Come, Easy Go" and "Let Me Go (Leave Me Alone)" Beyond this, pretty much everything Christine's done is of high quality. I wish more people thought of "Put a Candle in the Window" when they thought of Christine outtakes. It's just a run-through but it's good. |
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I like “Ricky” and “Skies the Limit” a lot and it’s a shame “Put a Candle in the Window” never got finished it had potential. |
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plural noun: skies the region of the atmosphere and outer space seen from the earth (the atmosphere, the heavens) "hundreds of stars shining in the sky" |
Isn't Ricky a BuckVie tune? as in (McVie/Buckingham)?
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It sure is. No Stevie on that track. |
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The following website says it was a BuckVie collaboration: https://www.fleetwoodmac-uk.com/albu...page.htm#Ricky So, shame on the me both! lol |
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Ricky is a song I never include in my playlists. I do include Skies. Not her best work but I like it. It's funny and interesting at the same time how many of us think so differently.
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Vintage McVie keyboard opening Mick's crack of the drum Nice melody Great harmonies of all 4 singers Catchy chorus Uplifting Love song She's acting peculiar and strange again because she is head over heals in love with him I never liked the line "we can hit on a nail" That never seemed McVie to me. Its as if she needed a word to rhyme with fail. "Guys give me a word that rhymes with fail" She sought out advice and Rick or Billy yelled out "NAIL" I could never imagine Chris as a carpenter. Maybe Billy though ;) |
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I respect your zealous defense of the song title but I don't think anyone disagrees that "skies" is a legitimate word in English. The grating issues for me are that: - the phrase doesn't appear in the song (rather, a similar but different phrase ("the sky is the limit") appears ad nauseum) - even if they used singular in the song and plural in the title for some reason, it should probably be "Skies Are The Limit", as it reads as unnaturally abbreviated without the verb to be - or if they wanted to keep it singular but contract it for the title, it should have been "Sky's The Limit" The end result is a feeling that the track was titled by one of the engineers or someone else who was one step removed from the writing process. Having said that, after looking at the alternatives above, I agree that they do look a bit clunky compared to "Skies The Limit", grammar issues notwithstanding. |
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I really dont think the title of one of Chris's songs would be given by a sound engineer. The issue I have is people thinking its grammatically wrong or a mistake as you allege. First there is nothing wrong with skies since it refers to the heavens above the sky before space. Its also the plural of sky which could mean the sky in different places. A love in Europe and a love in the States. Even though its grammatically correct rock and roll is full of clever titles and even words purposely spelled wrong. Sort of like when Stevie got angry at Lindsey for correcting her tenses. Yes its true her and Dylan do change several tenses throughout their songs. But that is rock and roll. The words "Smells like teen spirt" were never in the song either. Many titles of songs dont appear as lyrics in songs. Could it be an accident where someone intended on Sky's but instead picked the word skies instead? Possible. But when people start picking apart songs because words are not in titles, the tenses change in songs or lyrics are run on sentences annoy me because its fuddy old English professors criticizing rock songs while their favorite poets do the exact same thing. Would you say that to Emily Dickenson? I was in horror many years ago that people were writing on this site the issues with Hold Me and parts of the song were not written in perfect English and should have been changed. That is horrifying :eek: Now what I have written here is tongue and cheek like what I wrote above. I am not being over zealous which I am accused of lots around here. I am inserting some humor and common sense only. Now I ask you. Would you say this to Bob Dylan if he wrote a song Skies the Limit? Steve had a theory awhile ago that the word Skies was taken from an airline commercial that was sponsoring the Mac tour in 1990. Was it clever on purpose or an unintended accident or done to purposely annoy people. I simply do not care :) We may never know the mystery of the song. I only have a theory. There are countless songs and poems called "The Sky Is The Limit." That is the phrase that is sung in the song, no? I don't think she ever sings Sky's The Limit which would still irk people because its a title that is not sung in the song. I think it was purposely done for copyright reasons. Its not lumped in with all the other songs named The Sky Is The Limit. There is only one Skies The Limit. I think Chris went out of her way to not call the song The Sky Is The Limit even though that is what she wrote and sings. But my guess is like yours, just a guess. They mystery and the annoyance from some people just makes me like the song more :). |
You know how you see set lists written by roadies sometimes, that are pasted on the stage, with abbreviations and misspellings in song titles? My guess has always been that someone in the band or in the studio wrote the title like that in some stage of the recording process and they decided to keep it like that as they got used to it or though it was more pithy or catchy or, like you say, unique.
Re poets, maybe Stevie was jealous that Lindsey was almost asked to join Dylan in the Wilburys. |
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So I called up the captain Please bring me my wine, he said "We haven't had that spirit here since 1969" |
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I heard on Dick Clark's countdown show in late 1990 that Skies The Limit was a last edition to the album and written quickly. Maybe its my knowledge of that that also makes me feel the music and lyrics were written rather quickly. I think it shows. But that is a compliment because it shows that even in a pinch, Chris could write a fairly good song rather quickly with the intent of putting one of her trademark signature peppy songs on the album. After first playback, the band felt the album was too dark and missing a Chris peppy love song. No fear, slap this first track on side one, problem solved? Well maybe :lol: To your other point, Don Henley is 100% correct when people dissect a rock and roll song for technical accuracies. Good grief. Yeah ok, wine is not a spirit and Hotel California is a horrible song because of that reason :lol: I want to know how the sky never expects it when it rains in the sea? Throw them all out! In Never Ever Changes, I swear Stevie at the end throws in several Nothing Never changes, no it doesnt. Good grief. A double negative in a rock song. Cancel the Wild Heart immediately! |
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Ok now for some funny things I found online. McVie wrote "Skies the Limit" as an upbeat "rally song" with the intention of offsetting some Behind the Mask tracks that she believed were too depressing. "Everything was getting to the point of where it was a downer album. It sounded like this was a potential suicide band, which it wasn't. I decided to write a song that was really up, it was a rally song." GQ labeled "Skies the Limit" as one of the ten best post-Rumours songs, saying that "the misspelled opening from the album" is "the only truly memorable song from the album" LMAO :lol: |
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I hear it different now. Still have a problem with the trolly sounding keys, but then I understand them, too. |
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