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welcomechris 06-16-2015 08:00 AM

Heart of Stone
 
One of FM's best songs ever, like in the Top 5, what do you guys think?

Dr.Brown 06-16-2015 08:36 AM

Along with Loves Shines, this song would have given a much-needed boost to Behind the Mask by replacing any two of its clunkers.

vivfox 06-16-2015 10:07 AM

A fantastic sounding song with great vocals that the world acts like it doesn't exist.

FuzzyPlum 06-16-2015 03:44 PM

It's a very nice song but not as good as it's 'sister' song Love Shines.
Not really very close to top-5 in my opinion.

He's So Unusual 06-17-2015 02:05 AM

It's one of Christine's best songs. It probably would have been a top 10 hit had it been written and recorded in the 1980s.

johnnystorms 06-17-2015 06:17 AM

was it a Patrick Leonard production? I think the band would be well-served by an outside producer... HoS was great! love how Stevie's harmonies are a TAD behind the chorus... it's really good!

Street_Dreamer 06-17-2015 12:07 PM

I love Heart Of Stone but it's hard to listen to sometimes when my ears focus on the sound of whomever's hands sliding on the guitar.

welcomechris 06-17-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1168441)
I love Heart Of Stone but it's hard to listen to sometimes when my ears focus on the sound of whomever's hands sliding on the guitar.

That's the only thing I hate about it, who would be doing that, Rick or Billy? My guess is Billy

PenguinHead 06-24-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1168377)
A fantastic sounding song with great vocals that the world acts like it doesn't exist.

Because the song lives only in the less accessible box set, some in the world don't even know it exists.

johnnystorms 06-24-2015 07:26 AM

Stevie's backing vocals ARE killer, slightly behind the melody.. which is the big trend in pop now

jbrownsjr 06-24-2015 08:51 AM

Love this song. It's very good. Stevie has great vocals on it.

welcomechris 06-25-2015 02:35 PM

Stevie's vocals are quite unique. It was the closest sound we got to hearing the fab five sound since Lindsey's departure from the band.

welcomechris 06-26-2015 07:25 AM



It was produced very well also. Christine singing at her best.

Phoenixgypsy 06-28-2015 10:15 AM

This one fit's in really nicely with a Christine playlists that includes Friend, Save Me, I Do and As Long As You Follow.

jbrownsjr 06-29-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenixgypsy (Post 1168911)
This one fit's in really nicely with a Christine playlists that includes Friend, Save Me, I Do and As Long As You Follow.

Wow, that's a nice combo.. I am inspired to make a playlist with similar songs.

Dragon 06-30-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1168443)
That's the only thing I hate about it, who would be doing that, Rick or Billy? My guess is Billy

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1168708)
Stevie's backing vocals ARE killer, slightly behind the melody.. which is the big trend in pop now

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1168712)
Love this song. It's very good. Stevie has great vocals on it.

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1168779)
Stevie's vocals are quite unique. It was the closest sound we got to hearing the fab five sound since Lindsey's departure from the band.

Was "Heart of Stone" recorded during the Behind the Mask sessions or afterward?

johnnystorms 07-03-2015 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 1169021)
Was "Heart of Stone" recorded during the Behind the Mask sessions or afterward?

my guess is afterwards.. BTM was "produced" by Greg Ladanyi... HoS was produced by Patrick Leonard, who , oddly, produced Madonna.
maybe they should bring him in to produce the new FM record if they ever do one!

welcomechris 07-03-2015 09:46 PM

Looking at some credits, here is the lineup

John McVie - Bass
Mick Fleetwood - Drums, Percussion
Christine McVie - Lead Vocals, Keyboards, Piano
Stevie Nicks - Backing Vocals
Billy Burnette - Guitar, Backing Vocals
Patrick Leonard - Producer

So no rick?

PenguinHead 07-05-2015 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1169274)
Looking at some credits, here is the lineup

John McVie - Bass
Mick Fleetwood - Drums, Percussion
Christine McVie - Lead Vocals, Keyboards, Piano
Stevie Nicks - Backing Vocals
Billy Burnette - Guitar, Backing Vocals
Patrick Leonard - Producer

So no rick?

Well it's clearly evident in the credits. Rick was gone by then but Billy hung on a bit longer -- his last stint in Fleetwood Mac being the Time album and ensuing tour.

SteveMacD 07-05-2015 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1169342)
Well it's clearly evident in the credits. Rick was gone by then but Billy hung on a bit longer -- his last stint in Fleetwood Mac being the Time album and ensuing tour.

Although, he did leave the band for about nine months to a year. If he hadn't, Dave Mason would probably have never been asked to join.

I think if Mick hadn't jumped the gun on hiring Bekka and just waited for Lindsey's tour to end, they could've gotten Lindsey back in late 1993 and made an album as a quartet, while touring as an augmented trio.

BLY 07-05-2015 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1169343)
Although, he did leave the band for about nine months to a year. If he hadn't, Dave Mason would probably have never been asked to join.

I think if Mick hadn't jumped the gun on hiring Bekka and just waited for Lindsey's tour to end, they could've gotten Lindsey back in late 1993 and made an album as a quartet, while touring as an augmented trio.




That would have been a nice chapter in the Fleetwood Mac book. I would have preferred that over Bekka and Dave .

bombaysaffires 07-05-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1168395)
It's a very nice song but not as good as it's 'sister' song Love Shines.
Not really very close to top-5 in my opinion.

oh I'd vote the opposite. Love Shines is a decent song but a snoozer the way it was produced. It lacks a certain spark.:distress:

sanders8323 07-05-2015 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1169366)
oh I'd vote the opposite. Love Shines is a decent song but a snoozer the way it was produced. It lacks a certain spark.:distress:

I second this!

BLY 07-05-2015 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1169366)
oh I'd vote the opposite. Love Shines is a decent song but a snoozer the way it was produced. It lacks a certain spark.:distress:


That " spark " it lacks is Lindsey Buckingham.

PenguinHead 07-05-2015 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1169343)
Although, he did leave the band for about nine months to a year. If he hadn't, Dave Mason would probably have never been asked to join.

I think if Mick hadn't jumped the gun on hiring Bekka and just waited for Lindsey's tour to end, they could've gotten Lindsey back in late 1993 and made an album as a quartet, while touring as an augmented trio.

Nice thought, but I think Lindsey still wasn't ready to even consider rejoining the band at that time. It took another four years before he decided to do The Dance.

SteveMacD 07-06-2015 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1169386)
Nice thought, but I think Lindsey still wasn't ready to even consider rejoining the band at that time. It took another four years before he decided to do The Dance.

I dunno. He was on the road until August/September, 1993. I think he would have seen, in spite of the television interviews, music videos, live TV appearances, radio shows, and opening for Tina Turner, that he wasn't viable as a solo act. Give him a month off to count his losses and lick his wounds, send in Christine to butter him up with a clearing of the air moment, and he would have come back tail wagging. He was already back in the picture, at least somewhat, during the recording of "Tme" as noted by his appearance on the remake of Delaney Bramlett's "Nothing Without You."

Sorry, but I don't think that it's as simple as it has been portrayed. "Time" came out in October, 1995 and "Twisted" came out in May, 1996. When have this crew ever done something that back-to-back in FIVE MONTHS? Really? Mick, Lindsey, and Stevie (you know, the three in the band who actually had issues with each other) were suddenly, out of the blue, "I called him up and he came over" okay with each other, AND a week later Mick, the McVies, and Stevie (and ironically, Steve Winwood...from Traffic...Dave Mason's old band...filling in for Lindsey) all appear together at the Kentucky Derby??? "Time" bombs upon release, and five months later the "Rumours" band is basically back together? Yeah, that's coincidental. :rolleyes:

In all reality, Lindsey was back in the picture some time in 1995. That's when Mick, John, and Christine started working with him again. The only problem was the band was under contractual obligations with Dave Mason and Bekka Bramlett. "Time" never stood a chance because everybody in the band and the label knew that the "Rumours" band was getting back together. I suspect that's why Fleetwood Mac went on that REO tour. That way, any chance for credibility the band might have developed immediately goes away, and Lindsey and Stevie come riding back on their white horses to save the band.

aleuzzi 07-06-2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1169366)
oh I'd vote the opposite. Love Shines is a decent song but a snoozer the way it was produced. It lacks a certain spark.:distress:

I think they're both excellent, really. The best Christine on record with the band since Little Lies and, before that, Love in Store and Hold Me.


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