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Old 05-30-2010, 07:43 PM
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Default Drifting vs Fast Talking Woman Blues

Hope someone can help me out here.
I really love the song Drifting aka known as Fast Talking Woman Blues. I would like to play it with one of my bands. However with another band I allready play a song called Drifting, by Louisiana Red. Thus I'd like to stick to FTWB. However, I only have the version from the Golden Circle venue, but sadly I can't figure out the lyrics there.
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Old 05-31-2010, 06:54 AM
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Hope someone can help me out here.
I really love the song Drifting aka known as Fast Talking Woman Blues. I would like to play it with one of my bands. However with another band I allready play a song called Drifting, by Louisiana Red. Thus I'd like to stick to FTWB. However, I only have the version from the Golden Circle venue, but sadly I can't figure out the lyrics there.
Can anybody help?
Well the Fast Talking Woman Blues from Vaudeville Years is an instrumental which makes the lyrics easy!

The lyrics to Drifting are

I ain't never missed a woman
Anytime or anyhow
I ain't never missed a woman
Anytime or anyhow
I ain't never missed a woman
Oh, just like the way I miss my baby now


http://discog.fleetwoodmac.net/songs...13&perfid=9556

No idea if the lyrics vary on live versions though?
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:34 PM
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Default There are two "Drifting"'s

The original opening lyric is; "I'm drifting, and drifting, like a ship out on a sea." The original has been recorded by many artists since Louisiana Red.


Peter Green's "Drifting", IMHO is the blueprint for hard rock blues music (Led Zeppelin). Peter Green discovered lightning in a bottle at least a year before Jimmy Page. The problem is "Drifting" wasn't released to the public until after Peter Green left FM. The album was called "The Original Fleetwood Mac". Thanks to the internet, I'm glad to read posts from those who realize where that "sound" really came from, who are Led Zeppelin fans.

Not to stray too far from the subject, but Mike Vernon's productions were by far the best from the English side to represent the blues that rivals Chess studios in Chicago. That drum echo you hear from Mick Fleetwood on "Drifting", is perfect.
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:35 AM
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The original opening lyric is; "I'm drifting, and drifting, like a ship out on a sea." The original has been recorded by many artists since Louisiana Red.
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This "Drifting" is actually called Drifting Blues, composed by Charles Brown, Johnny Moore and Eddie Williams, and is well known being recorded by Eric Clapton:

I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
Well I ain't got nobody in this world to care for me.

If my baby would only take me back again.
If my baby would only take me back again.
I would feel much better, darling, and at least I'd have a friend.

I give you all my money, tell me what more can I do.
I give you all my money, tell me what more can I do.
You is a sweet little girl but I swear you won't be true.

I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
I'm drifting and drifting, just like a ship out on the sea.
Because I ain't got nobody in this world to care for me.

Louisiana Red has a complete different "Drifting", where he sings about feeling lonely in hotel rooms while travelling as a musician. Also mentioning memories of being raised in orphan homes. Also the melody is completely different. Try getting hold on it, it's on his album "Drifting", released in 2001.

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Peter Green's "Drifting" ........ wasn't released to the public until after Peter Green left FM. The album was called "The Original Fleetwood Mac".
Gary Moore also recorded Peter Greens "Drifting" (1995), adding another verse (in italics):

I ain't never missed a woman, anytime or anyhow
Said I ain't never missed a woman, anytime or anyhow
I said, I ain't never missed nobody, just like the way I miss my baby now

If you could see my woman, you'd know why no one else can take her place
If you could see my woman, people, you'd realize why no one else can take her place
You'd know just what I'm talking 'bout, if you could see my baby's sweet, sweet face


That's why I ain't never missed a woman, anytime or any place
No, I ain't never ever missed a woman, anytime or any place
When I say I ain't never missed nobody, I mean I ain't never missed nobody like I miss my baby now, yeah

At the Golden Circle venue, however, Peter added as second verse (and I'm looking forward to answers on the question marks):

All you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
I said all you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
????????????????????????
Woman I can't ??????????????

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Peter Green's "Drifting", IMHO is the blueprint for hard rock blues music (Led Zeppelin). Peter Green discovered lightning in a bottle at least a year before Jimmy Page. .... I'm glad to read posts from those who realize where that "sound" really came from, who are Led Zeppelin fans.
IMHO "Drifting" is very, very, very far from hard rock blues. It's slow, has immense passion, and nobody puts as much emotion into it as Peter did in those days.
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All you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
I said all you fast talking women, don't come hanging around my door
????????????????????????
Woman I can't ??????????????
Having listened to this many times (and yes I mean many) my interpretation of the third line is:


"You said you know you love me"


the fourth line sounds like he says either:

Woman I can't use your powers on me anymore (and that wouldn't make any sense now would it?)

OR

Woman I can't use your ??? body anymore (and the ??? sounds like "powered" - maybe "powdered?")

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Old 06-01-2010, 02:53 PM
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Default what i hear ??

You guys must have better hearing than me

Golden Circle is a fuzzy recording

I Hear

If you say that you don't love me
then I cant't use you any more


this seems to make sense in a bluesy way

I did not hear "powers" anywhere . I wish i did

that gives a supernatural bent to it

but this song seems more straight forward than that

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Having listened to this many times (and yes I mean many) my interpretation of the third line is:


"You said you know you love me"


the fourth line sounds like he says either:

Woman I can't use your powers on me anymore (and that wouldn't make any sense now would it?)

OR

Woman I can't use your ??? body anymore (and the ??? sounds like "powered" - maybe "powdered?")
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IMHO "Drifting" is very, very, very far from hard rock blues. It's slow, has immense passion, and nobody puts as much emotion into it as Peter did in those days.
I'm strictly speaking of the song's structure. A slow blues intro with a heavy 4/4 drum beat. Then comes the dynamic crescendo with the loud blues licks to emphasize that attack. Anyone who hasn't heard of Peter Green with Fleetwood Mac thinks this type of hard rock "slow blues" was created by Jimmy Page, and Led Zeppelin, or Jeff Beck.

You don't have to tell me that Peter's version of slow blues is more emotional than his peers. Peter Green was the master of the modern electric slow blues. I'm sure Jimmy Page would admit today that "Since I've Been Loving You" had a Peter Green influence. The fact that he played "Oh Well" with the Black Crowes ten years ago is a good indicator.

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You don't have to tell me that Peter's version of slow blues is more emotional than his peers. Peter Green was the master of the modern electric slow blues. I'm sure Jimmy Page would admit today that "Since I've Been Loving You" had a Peter Green influence. The fact that he played "Oh Well" with the Black Crowes ten years ago is a good indicator.
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