Penguin & Mystery

[SteveMacD]

The Welch/Weston years. provided us with two albums, one is usually considered on of, if not THE weakest Mac album, while the other is considered to be among their best. What I've noticed is that one album has four or five great songs, while the other has four or five filler songs. Which brought me to the obvious next step: What if they had taken their time and released ONE album that was a CLASSIC?

Remember Me
Emerald Eyes
Believe Me
Hypnotized
Just Crazy Love
Keep On Going
Revelation
Did You Ever Love Me
Miles Away
Dissatisfied
Nightwatch
Why

[HomerMcvie]

They DID release one album that is an absolute CLASSIC.
It's called Mystery To Me. It's my all time favorite album.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

They DID release one album that is an absolute CLASSIC.
It's called Mystery To Me. It's my all time favorite album.

MTM is great, and mostly a classic. Of all the albums, it's still the one I listen to the most. The "good" songs are among the best in the history of the band. But songs like "The City" (the killer guitars just can't make up for the lyrics), "Somebody" (a pretty good, though not really great song), "The Way I Feel" (Zzzzzzz, and the lyrics are bad in a few spots), "Forever" (sorry, I've gotten to be anti-drum machine), and "For Your Love" (great song - Hell, great version, but still a cover mixed in with greater material from two writers who were on to something). But, if you take the five songs that make "Penguin" worth buying, then it's a TRUE classic.

[jbrownsjr]

steve just think of them as bob welch scatting... that's all i think this guy ever wrote lyrics for was to fill the chords with some kind of melody...

sen ta men tal gen tle wind

etc etc etc

[David]

I enjoy the spectacle of you sociologist boys opining forth on what constitutes a "classic"!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

MTM is great, and mostly a classic. Of all the albums, it's still the one I listen to the most. The "good" songs are among the best in the history of the band. But songs like "The City" (the killer guitars just can't make up for the lyrics), "Somebody" (a pretty good, though not really great song), "The Way I Feel" (Zzzzzzz, and the lyrics are bad in a few spots), "Forever" (sorry, I've gotten to be anti-drum machine), and "For Your Love" (great song - Hell, great version, but still a cover mixed in with greater material from two writers who were on to something). But, if you take the five songs that make "Penguin" worth buying, then it's a TRUE classic.

I disagree. The killer guitars DO save The City. I really like Somebody, too. Agreed, a couple of lyric changes might make The Way I Feel better, although I still love it, nonetheless. IF I had to pick a song to lose, I would choose For Your Love. They did a good job, but it's just not their song.

MTM takes me to another place. Every great album should do just that.

[bretonbanquet]

I always wonder about the love for MTM. I mean, it has some truly great songs on there, but others are just really quite tiresome to me. "Miles Away", "Somebody" and "The City" for a start - I've tried to like them but I just don't see what's in them "Forever" is a bit throwaway, and "Believe Me"... sorry, I know I'm in the minority here

I love the rest - I love "The Way I Feel" - very pretty - "Just Crazy Love" is great, plus "Hypnotized" and "Why" of course.

I also differ from most people about Penguin as well - "Night Watch" and "Revelation" send me to sleep (literally, on at least one occasion) but I like "The Derelict" and "Caught In The Rain", and I even have time for "Road Runner"

I would totally agree about making a great album out of the two, but mine would have all different songs on it

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

I would totally agree about making a great album out of the two, but mine would have all different songs on it

The beauty of hypotheticals.

[DavidMn]

That's an interesting assesment Steve. I hadnt that Bob really didnt care fot it before.