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Scary, are you kidding? ChiliD thinks they would've been better than Led Zeppelin. I think they could've been equals. If those "Live at the Boston Tea Party" tapes were released in 1970 as intended, Fleetwood Mac would've been a whole new ballgame in the United States. Look, I know I'm in that minority red headed step-child section of what became a very successful pop band. Yet ask Mick Fleetwood the same question. He'd drop his current life (and band) in less than a second to bring back Peter Green's version of Fleetwood Mac. Why do you think he has a blues band on the side? With all apologies to Jeremy Spencer, I think his time was up by 1970, and he had felt excluded for a long time. I think Peter's sudden departure put pressure on Spencer to stay longer than he wanted in the band. If Peter had not left 5/70, I think Spencer would've left in a more formal fashion to leave an opening for Christine McVie (Perfect). So the future of Fleetwood Mac would have been (ironically) the post Spencer 1971 U.S. tour, with more Peter Green songs in the setlist. There also would've been a four month U.S. tour beginning in 6/70 which would've solidified Fleetwood Mac as a legitimate concert band in America outside of the hippie ballroom circuit, on top of the release of the Boston live album. Peter Green's legacy in the U.S. would've been secured, and the rest of the history of FM would've been very different. My best guess is that you would not have been a fan of that band. Otherwise the word "Scary" wouldn't have been used in your original post. Personally, this band would've been a member of the rock music ladder of great bands. The Rumours band is The Eagles, Jackson Browne, and other assorted California rock from that period. Very pop, very popular, and very successful, but not Peter Green Fleetwood Mac great. Last edited by slipkid; 11-29-2009 at 12:50 AM.. |
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I only found out about Fleetwood Mac exactly one year ago, by watching School of Rock. I thought to my self, who is this elusive Stevie Nicks? Anyway, here is another what if...
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I think Fleetwood Mac with Lindsey, Christine, Mick, and John would have been successful.
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But with no drama! And a lot of us love that soap opera effect FM has on some of us.
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FM was inching towards commercial success in the US by '74. Its not a given that switching out Welch for Buckingham would have helped- it might have killed momentum for a couple years/albums. |
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Face it. Peter Greens FM died when Peter left. He did not leave for no reason, he felt he did not belong there where everybody wanted him. He actually has never been the hero the way WE saw him. Thus, would he have stayed, it would not have been the band we loved, admired, worshiped, etc. etc. etc. His senstive nature combined with his talent made him who he was as a musician at that time. Also, his sensitive nature led him to part. Should he not have left the band, that would imply he wouldn't have been who he was and FM would not have been the bluesband of those days.
In the later years Peter was very much influenced by the jamming style with the Grateful Dead. This was not commercial and I'm sure they would have ended up slightly out-of-the-picture. So, the question "What if..." is only hypothtical, no chance it would have ever been possible. Let's just embrace the fact they were as they were, and enjoy the music they left us. Actualy the same goes for Danny. As for Jeremy, I agree that would Peter have stayed, Jeremy would have left the band anyway. The musical direction of the band was not his. Also the pressure would have been too much for him, I guess. |
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I'd be more interested in a "What If?" thread on the post-Rumours board along the lines of:
What if in 1991, the band had decided to record a follow-up album to "Behind the Mask" instead of putting out a boxed set. "Love Shines" and "Paper Doll" surely would have made it onto that one - and Rick Vito probably wouldn't have left had he been allowed to contribute several new songs to the album. Things might have been different with Stevie because of her prescription drug problem. And we'll never know if the label would have liked the new band to put out another new album instead of "milking Rumours one more time" with the boxed set. Considering the fact that Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker left Warners some time around 1992, it probably would not have mattered much. Did John's Lola Thomas album begin to take shape before or after Rick Vito had left the band? |
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Fleetwood Mac as big as Led Zeppelin? haaaaaa. They needed a viable, charismatic/interesting frontman to make that leap, and Peter wasn't/wouldn't have ever have been it. Their potential ceiling (of commercial success) was what Cream achieved. Nothing too legendary/earth shattering.
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Zeppelin are massively overrated in this concept of inventing heavy metal as well. Mildly heavy folk with a wailing bloke. Deep Purple and Black Sabbath were infinitely more influential than Zeppelin. I never saw Judas Priest cover any Zep songs. And let's not forget that "Whole Lotta Love" was just yet another blues standard tarted up and passed off as something else. Not only that, Fleetwood Mac had already introduced and dropped it from their set. Quote:
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you hadda be there
the spring of 7o seemed like the end of the world
In the US "School" stopped (grade through graduateSchool) after the Kent State Jackson State National Guard shootings. The Viet Nam war was grinding on and Cambodia was being bombed. (apocalypse now). Blind faith was history The beatles were history, cream was history, Led Zeppilin was the second band on any card. Hendrix , who was, and joplin (who was not a big draw) were dead by the end of november The Allman Brothers couldnt fill up any big stadiun yet. ABB big break wes two years later at watkins glen with the band and The Dead, Eric clapton was a doped out stoner and not even touring but tagging along with other bands The big megga concerts were the only big shows and those were a culmination of Newport/Monterey/ woodstock/ilse of white Hell the Dead were not a big draw. The only big single draw in the US was the Stones, and only due the being the last band standing. If Iff If Peter had remained which I think he would have bolted in any event They would have changed the scene somewhat. but would they evolve into the death metal voodo spirit world cult crap, i think not. Jam band persona, maybe but I think he was, and rightly so, scared of the US. i know a lot of people who bolted during that time toget the heck out of harms way. The seventies were annother matter Last edited by doodyhead; 11-29-2009 at 01:02 PM.. Reason: spelling |
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I was speaking entirely from a commercial perspective (which I thought I clearly noted in my post), and speculating on the potential success of the band if the lineup stayed intact. Cream is arguably the most successful British blues group of all time, so using them as a comparison/potential ceiling isn't exactly an insult, even if that commercial/popular success isn't anywhere near what Led Zeppelin achieved (thus, the comparison). PG-era Fleetwood Mac (as-is)/Cream/Led Zeppelin are all legendary in my eyes.
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