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Bob Brunning knows Peter Green "changed" when he went to visit him around late 1971. He brought tapes of his Brunning Blues Band, that Peter had played with in 1969. Peter Green did not want to hear it! He just wanted to go to the local pub. The trigger happened AFTER Fleetwood Mac. In Peter's case, he was never a true acid casualty. He was just depressed, because he felt the burdon of ripping off authentic American black blues musicians. Which is silly compared to Jimmy Page. What a waste. Last edited by slipkid; 03-12-2012 at 01:24 AM.. |
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I'm too lazy to read this whole thread () so apologies if someone has already referenced Micks book:
"Peter Green arrived two days after we appealed to him. Right away he let us know what he was willing to do. Our set now consisted of Black Magic Woman and about ninety minutes of free form jamming. We had no choice..."
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"Mac made do with a set thrown together - "Black Magic Woman," an hour's jamming and the occasional vocal from Danny and Christine." No mention as to the source of that info, though a couple of quotes about that tour from John McVie follow this in the book. The set description pretty much matches with the few recordings from parts of several gigs that have survived from that tour. No mention of a single four-hour long jam though, either in this book or in Mick Fleetwood's. |
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I guess I'm just a "non-believer" about this story, based on it coming from a single account from what I feel is a questionable source, so unless another source can be found for this event taking place, I'll just leave it at that. |
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It was a much different (and much better musically) time then. 1) Peter Green was in complete free-form wah-pedal jam mode. 2) There was no time limit for concerts at the Fillmore East. When the Allmans' played the last concert at the Fillmore East, they ended at dawn. 3) Not every FM concert post Spencer with Green as a sub had a BMW jam. According to what's been written, Peter Green stayed in the shadows playing rhythm guitar for FM to fill in for Jeremy Spencer for a couple of weeks. Danny Kirwan took all the solos, and that was it. Then came the Fillmore East show. Green steps to the front, makes himself known, and thus the infamous BMW jam. This is not impossible to believe if you are a fan of those bands from the "hippie ballroom circuit". If you're not, you need to wrap your head around a time that really happened! Back then McVie, and Fleetwood were stallions (a rhythm force)! Maybe it was two, three, or four hours. Whatever the case, it was a VERY long jam. Which is why I think Danny Kirwan tried to hit Peter Green in the head with a glass beer bottle after the show, out of pure frustration! That account is not from Clifford Davis. Last edited by slipkid; 03-13-2012 at 12:45 AM.. |
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Probably not a popular view, but listening to a two hour jam would probably feel like four. It didn't matter if PG is the best guitarist in the world or not, there is only so much of that kind of thing you can take.
Every time I listen to End of the Game, I think about all the other things I could be doing like visiting the dentist or pulling out my fingernails with pliers.
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Wow! That is brave....
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Here's a thought for some discussion. Based on how things played out, the assumption has always been that the band would have canceled the rest of their tour if Peter (and Nigel) had not flown in to join them. But could they realistically have continued the tour as a four-piece? Obviously Danny was not comfortable being a front man but Christine might have been able to handle fronting the band at that point, for the remaining few weeks of the tour anyway. So could they have functioned that way or would it have turned out like Spinal Tap without Nigel Tufnel? |
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They bought some Mac tapes from Dinky Dawson though. |
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hell is not so bad
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some were marvelous when on lsd but listened to years later, spotty and so so |
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but while in hell
still in all, it was a creative time, and those who jammed were trying to find some hidden magic in the collective collaborative experience. as a young player I was also seduced by this environment. i do not know if it made any better of a musician, but i somehow thought i listened better and reacted better playing. who knows? i hoped that the creative force would channel through me through my guitar. jamming was the vehicle to induce the spirit.
coltrane wrote of this. i believe it is true. is it from god? I don't know, I only feel |
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Since you don't like "End of the Game", do you own Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew"? That could explain it. Maybe I get "End of the Game" because I was a 1970's British prog rock fan twenty-five years ago when the majority of American high school morons followed REM, and U2. |
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