Bobby Hunt & Doug Graves

[Mr Scarrott]

There's some evidence that the band had made it known when they were performing that Doug Graves was a member of Fleetwood Mac in 1974- listen to the announcement at the start of this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnRXv9ljaw

Maybe Pete Frame should update the family tree? Or maybe not...

Sorry, don't know how to embed the video.

[sharksfan2000]

Not that Wikipedia is always the most reliable source, but their entry on Fleetwood Mac includes an interesting late-'74 quote from Doug Graves:

After Warner Bros. made a record deal with the real Fleetwood Mac, the quartet released Heroes Are Hard to Find in September 1974. For the first time in its history, the band had only one guitarist. On the road, they added a second keyboardist. The first was Bobby Hunt, who had been in the band Head West with Bob Welch back in 1970, and the second was Doug Graves, who had been an engineer on Heroes Are Hard to Find. Neither proved to be a long-term addition to the line-up, although Graves was preparing to be a full member of the band following the US tour in late 1974. At the time he said:

I'm looking forward to adding something to this already great band; I helped engineer their album 'Heroes Are Hard to Find' and got to know each member well. It came to me as a shock when Mick asked me to join but I am enjoying playing live with the band, and hopefully will start a new studio album with the band soon.
—Doug Graves, Melody Maker 26 October 1974

However, Graves did not ultimately join full-time and Welch left soon after the tour ended (on December 2, 1974), having tired of the touring and legal struggles. Nevertheless, the tour enabled the Heroes album to reach a higher position on the American charts than any of the band's previous records.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

Not that Wikipedia is always the most reliable source, but their entry on Fleetwood Mac includes an interesting late-'74 quote from Doug Graves:

Never saw that before. I wonder if he was really asked to become a member and the others changed their minds, or if he just misunderstood the situation. It seems odd that the band would add somebody and it not be in the music magazines, even in 1974. Even Stevie and Lindsey joining got mentioned. I'd love to read the article in full.

[aleuzzi]

Was Bobby Hunt the keyboardist responsible for the amazing organ work on "Believe Me" during the Sausalito session? If so, he is waaaaaaaaaaaay more than merely Bob's black friend, Mick Fleetwood.

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Never saw that before. I wonder if he was really asked to become a member and the others changed their minds, or if he just misunderstood the situation. It seems odd that the band would add somebody and it not be in the music magazines, even in 1974. Even Stevie and Lindsey joining got mentioned. I'd love to read the article in full.

Well, there's a copy of that issue on eBay if you're interested:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MELODY-MAKER...item4d177000d8

[SteveMacD]

I don't know that I'm THAT interested, although I'd be curious to read Bill Bruford's review of Santana.

[Mr Scarrott]

It's not Don Kirshner doing the announcement in the clip I mentioned above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnRXv9ljaw

He says "and tonight we're very happy to present Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Bob Welch & Doug Graves- in other words the real Fleetwood Mac."


I can't make out what he says his name is. Can anyone make it out or recognise the photo?

[Mr Scarrott]

Oh, the picture is of Mitchel Reed, found by googling "disc jockey WMCA"

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

It's not Don Kirshner doing the announcement in the clip I mentioned above

I know. I was referring to when Kirshner introduced the band on Rock Concert.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

There's some evidence that the band had made it known when they were performing that Doug Graves was a member of Fleetwood Mac in 1974- listen to the announcement at the start of this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnRXv9ljaw

Maybe Pete Frame should update the family tree? Or maybe not...

I think they just wanted to introduce the people playing the show. Don Kirshner introduced them as the ORIGINAL Fleetwood Mac.

Remember, they were trying to reestablish that they (Mick, John, Christine, and Bob) were indeed the REAL Fleetwood Mac.