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Old 03-14-2019, 06:28 AM
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By all accounts she was furious and upset when he left FM in 1987. Also, according to Billy Burnette's book, Stevie was the one who requested Lindsey perform with FM at Bill Clinton's inauguration, which upset Billy. And then, there were the tours she went on with Lindsey after Christine left, plus the recording of Say You Will. So what you said is not accurate. It would appear that it was only fairly recently she wanted him out of the band, not "all her life."
She didn’t “request” Lindsey to perform with FM at the Bill Clinton’s inauguration. She told him that if he didn’t do it she would “never speak to him again”. She was thinking more about Clinton than Lindsey here. How bad it would look if he didn’t join them.

Say you will? Really? Did I need to recount all her nasty comments about that recording and about him?

She had wanted him out of the band since The Dance.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:13 PM
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I mean, they've done worse to each other. The last break up was physical. I know they are much older know, and I think much smarter (and sober). I think they realize the importance of reflection and what it means to end on a good note. I'm not saying its going to be easy or even quick, but I don't see this as a complete end.

What is Stevie going to do? Tour solo forever? She definitely has at least 5 more good years in her.

I really think if Lindsey fully heals, they'll reconcile.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:36 PM
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I mean, they've done worse to each other. The last break up was physical. I know they are much older know, and I think much smarter (and sober). I think they realize the importance of reflection and what it means to end on a good note. I'm not saying its going to be easy or even quick, but I don't see this as a complete end.

What is Stevie going to do? Tour solo forever? She definitely has at least 5 more good years in her.

I really think if Lindsey fully heals, they'll reconcile.
Worse than this? I don't think so. They could have become physical but words (or lack of them) sometimes can hurt more.

Lindsey realizes the importance of reflection. He wanted to talk. Stevie? Not so much. As long as she has her yes people around her, she doesn't care about Lindsey.

I wish I have your optimism. But I doubt it will happen.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:58 PM
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She had wanted him out of the band since The Dance.
She's probably wanted to kill him since the seventies, but I don't think she's wanted him out of the band until the last few years, maybe after Christine returned.

She didn't want him to leave in 1987 and she wanted them all together for The Dance and after. If Christine had been with them when SYW came out and she was still mad at him about the recording process, then I suppose she would have started wanting him out of the band then. But Christine wasn't there and she lacked options. If they were going to tour as FM, they needed at least two of the singers. So, she realized he was needed in FM. Maybe if she got Sheryl Crow in and the fans really liked Crow, then she would have started trying to push Lindsey out then. But as it was, I don't think she really envisioned or wanted FM without him until Christine returned.

Christine came back, he kept pushing for a new album and getting on her nerves. He kept foolishly thinking he was still her equal. Heads had to roll.
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She's probably wanted to kill him since the seventies, but I don't think she's wanted him out of the band until the last few years, maybe after Christine returned.

She didn't want him to leave in 1987 and she wanted them all together for The Dance and after. If Christine had been with them when SYW came out and she was still mad at him about the recording process, then I suppose she would have started wanting him out of the band then. But Christine wasn't there and she lacked options. If they were going to tour as FM, they needed at least two of the singers. So, she realized he was needed in FM. Maybe if she got Sheryl Crow in and the fans really liked Crow, then she would have started trying to push Lindsey out then. But as it was, I don't think she really envisioned or wanted FM without him until Christine returned.

Christine came back, he kept pushing for a new album and getting on her nerves. He kept foolishly thinking he was still her equal. Heads had to roll.
I agree with this. But I also think he’s wanted to kill her too. Who knows what the final straw was. If it really was just a smirk, she is well and truly insane. There is a fine line between love and hate. And I do think even now, they both love and hate each other. The lack of any reference of Lindsey by the band of him being a crucial and critical part of this band’s legacy is almost sociopathic. It really makes my wonder if they are truly discounting all of this and when they tour is over, they think they can call him up as if this last year (year and a half by the time this tour is finally over) never happened?
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I agree with this. But I also think he’s wanted to kill her too.
I don't think he's wanted to kill her since the eighties. He's been more focused on trying to get her to make albums, after that. Michele
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She's probably wanted to kill him since the seventies, but I don't think she's wanted him out of the band until the last few years, maybe after Christine returned.

She didn't want him to leave in 1987 and she wanted them all together for The Dance and after. If Christine had been with them when SYW came out and she was still mad at him about the recording process, then I suppose she would have started wanting him out of the band then. But Christine wasn't there and she lacked options. If they were going to tour as FM, they needed at least two of the singers. So, she realized he was needed in FM. Maybe if she got Sheryl Crow in and the fans really liked Crow, then she would have started trying to push Lindsey out then. But as it was, I don't think she really envisioned or wanted FM without him until Christine returned.

Christine came back, he kept pushing for a new album and getting on her nerves. He kept foolishly thinking he was still her equal. Heads had to roll.
Christine should have never come back.
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Christine should have never come back.
I can't agree with that. I would have felt incomplete if she'd never returned. But I had no idea that it would end this way.
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