On with the Show tour

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer

I don't understand how/why it had to be on two DVDs. It may seem like a minor thing but it just made the whole thing so cheap to me.

Do you know what's cheap? Fleetwood Mac without Queen Christine. That's cheap af.

[secret love]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Do you know what's cheap? Fleetwood Mac without Queen Christine. That's cheap af.

Well the band must agree with you because all signs are that line-up will never happen again. If I can say that - because there really is no band left anymore to agree or disagree with you.

[Macfan4life]

Can we PLEASE get just an unedited FULL Mirage show. For the love of God, this footage exists and its not being released. The band does not probably own the US Festival stuff but they professionally recorded a few dates in 1982. Yet we only get a little more than half the show. Much of it is spliced together and edited horribly. Gyspy was not the second song. Go Your Own Way was not the encore. The Chain was not the opener. Hold Me or Sara never included.

By the mid 80s rolled around Stevie and the Mac lip synced their "live" performances for commercial release. Mirage was the last tour with no background musicians, no lip syncs, no background tracks, no floating cameras for close ups, no solo tracks, etc.

Can we get please get a FULL Mirage show!

[soul_drifter333]

As much as I love the Mirage remaster, the live CD contained on Disc 3 is the exact same audio of the exact same show released on video. Didn't even sound like it had been remastered, much less have the unreleased edited tracks.

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Can we PLEASE get just an unedited FULL Mirage show. For the love of God, this footage exists and its not being released. The band does not probably own the US Festival stuff but they professionally recorded a few dates in 1982. Yet we only get a little more than half the show. Much of it is spliced together and edited horribly. Gyspy was not the second song. Go Your Own Way was not the encore. The Chain was not the opener. Hold Me or Sara never included.

By the mid 80s rolled around Stevie and the Mac lip synced their "live" performances for commercial release. Mirage was the last tour with no background musicians, no lip syncs, no background tracks, no floating cameras for close ups, no solo tracks, etc.

Can we get please get a FULL Mirage show!

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by soul_drifter333

As much as I love the Mirage remaster, the live CD contained on Disc 3 is the exact same audio of the exact same show released on video. Didn't even sound like it had been remastered, much less have the unreleased edited tracks.

It's actually less. They edited NTF. It's shorter.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

It's actually less. They edited NTF. It's shorter.

Are you trying to turn me into a believer, by proving to me that there IS a god?

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

It's actually less. They edited NTF. It's shorter.

That NTF (original Mirage video) is our favorite when I'm enjoying a Merlot with my bf on friday nights.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

That NTF (original Mirage video) is our favorite when I'm enjoying a Merlot with my bf on friday nights.

The screaming is absolutely HORRIFYING.

OH OH OOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOO.

Dreadful.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Can we get please get a FULL Mirage show!

I'm with you but I'm afraid that ship has likely sailed. The chance was the Deluxe version with the live performances added. After the brilliant tracks they included on the Tusk Deluxe, what they did for Mirage was a crime. Those tracks were lifted directly from the old VHS/Laser Disc/ HBO / whatever the hell it was. They definitely weren't cleaned up in any meaningful way and there's a little hiccup/cut in Sisters of the Moon right before "so we make our choices" starts. A travesty!

I'm afraid the best we'll ever get was that Brown Eyes and Hold Me were ultimately given live releases on The Live 1980 Deluxe edition. We also got The Chain from one of the shows at The Forum in 1982 but it's mislabeled as Richfield Ohio 1980.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by jmn3

I'm with you but I'm afraid that ship has likely sailed. The chance was the Deluxe version with the live performances added. After the brilliant tracks they included on the Tusk Deluxe, what they did for Mirage was a crime. Those tracks were lifted directly from the old VHS/Laser Disc/ HBO / whatever the hell it was. They definitely weren't cleaned up in any meaningful way and there's a little hiccup/cut in Sisters of the Moon right before "so we make our choices" starts. A travesty!
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Does anybody know how did previous expanded and deluxe editions do in terms of sales? Cause if they weren't so good, even if the band wanted to release and remaster all that material, maybe they couldn't convince the record company that it would be worth it.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Does anybody know how did previous expanded and deluxe editions do in terms of sales? Cause if they weren't so good, even if the band wanted to release and remaster all that material, maybe they couldn't convince the record company that it would be worth it.

Well, here is what doesn't make sense. They did a great job on the live stuff added to the Deluxe editions of the white album, Rumours, and Tusk. Then for Mirage they half-assed it. And then for the Live album, they did a great job again. The apparent lack of care for the Mirage era is blasphemous!

We absolutely should have gotten one of the full shows from the Forum on the Mirage Deluxe release!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by jmn3

I'm with you but I'm afraid that ship has likely sailed. The chance was the Deluxe version with the live performances added. After the brilliant tracks they included on the Tusk Deluxe, what they did for Mirage was a crime. Those tracks were lifted directly from the old VHS/Laser Disc/ HBO / whatever the hell it was. They definitely weren't cleaned up in any meaningful way and there's a little hiccup/cut in Sisters of the Moon right before "so we make our choices" starts. A travesty!

I'm afraid the best we'll ever get was that Brown Eyes and Hold Me were ultimately given live releases on The Live 1980 Deluxe edition. We also got The Chain from one of the shows at The Forum in 1982 but it's mislabeled as Richfield Ohio 1980.

I know, I know I am a silly dreamer. Someone is just really lazy or much of this material is destroyed or not owned by the band or something.
Its crazy that earlier tours have much more recordings both visual and audio. But the Mirage era is a blip even though it was a #1 album in the video age. They were really rushing through things to get to their solo careers and a much needed break from each other. I wish we knew why this footage is not around or given to the fans.
For example Stevie professionally recorded her solo tours in 1983, 1989, and 1991. But the drugs were so bad they were buried and then leaked many years later on bootlegs and youtube. Her 1986 show was lip synced to a live track. We have explanations. I demand a full FBI investigation of what happened to the Mirage footage. A live visual performance of Hold Me (one of the biggest hits of the 1980s) is as mysteriously hard to find as a sasquatch in the woods. Often heard but never seen.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I know, I know I am a silly dreamer. Someone is just really lazy or much of this material is destroyed or not owned by the band or something.
Its crazy that earlier tours have much more recordings both visual and audio. But the Mirage era is a blip even though it was a #1 album in the video age. They were really rushing through things to get to their solo careers and a much needed break from each other. I wish we knew why this footage is not around or given to the fans.
For example Stevie professionally recorded her solo tours in 1983, 1989, and 1991. But the drugs were so bad they were buried and then leaked many years later on bootlegs and youtube. Her 1986 show was lip synced to a live track. We have explanations. I demand a full FBI investigation of what happened to the Mirage footage. A live visual performance of Hold Me (one of the biggest hits of the 1980s) is as mysteriously hard to find as a sasquatch in the woods. Often heard but never seen.

The bands own treatment of Hold Me has been abysmal since the Mirage Tour ended. That it was never played again in the context of the band until that dopey 2018-19 version is beyond me. How Christine just ignored it and Little Lies for The Dance is simply unimaginable. Plus it should have been played on one or both of the Shake the Cage and Behind the Mask tours. It was one of their biggest hits!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by jmn3

The bands own treatment of Hold Me has been abysmal since the Mirage Tour ended. That it was never played again in the context of the band until that dopey 2018-19 version is beyond me. How Christine just ignored it and Little Lies for The Dance is simply unimaginable. Plus it should have been played on one or both of the Shake the Cage and Behind the Mask tours. It was one of their biggest hits!

She did play it on her solo tour and it sounded fantastic. Thankfully Buck/Vie did it which was the first time both Chris and Lindsey sang it together live since 1982. Thats a crime right there. The Buck/Vie performance had some pre-recorded tracks. But her solo performance was all live and with several singers, they were able to cover the complicated chorus perfectly. None of that Hold me yeah stuff.