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Old 03-21-2005, 07:34 PM
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Other than the words "world" & "turning", I hear no parallel between the two songs. Never have.

hell yes, that would be the biggest stretch ever in FM history

that's like saying rattleshake snake resembles rhiannon
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Old 03-21-2005, 07:36 PM
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I'd agree Brett is a lovely guy; I think he is a good addition/'replacement' on keyboards...but I could do without the tons of other people up onstage as well. A couple, oK, but there are too many drummers etc.
Why even use a couple? If Fleetwood Mac is four people, let them play whatever they can themselves.

Plus, I've said before, the problem isn't -- or wasn't -- Brett per se. It's his hardware.

does "The Chain" really require a Gem ProMega, a Korg Triton & umpteen unidentifiable module racks -- as well as a second drummer, a percussionist, screeching mimis in the backup line, & a second or even third guitarist?

I mean, Jesus christ. Here's what "The Chain" requires: two lead singers (make the 3-part verse harmony a 2-part), a fingerpicked electric lead, one bass, one drum kit, & a Hammond B3.

that's it. C'est tout. Nothing else. Nada. Zip. Zilch. It will actually sound better that way, & I might even return for a 2nd show because the textures will be delineated & recognizable for what they are, & you will be able to hear them alter from show to show, which is a gratifying experience.

There's just no need -- except a wrongheaded notion that your take will be higher -- to turn your rock show into the Dancing Waters sponsored by Sparkletts at Sea World, where you flip a switch & you get the same thing like clockwork.
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Other than the words "world" & "turning", I hear no parallel between the two songs. Never have.
I agree that it's a stretch, but...

"The world keep on turning, I got to keep my feet on the ground" -Green
"World turning, I gotta get my feet back on the ground" -McVie & Buckingham

To me, "World Turning" is sort of saying that we (Fleetwood Mac) have to go back to being focused like the band was in the beginning.
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Why even use a couple? If Fleetwood Mac is four people, let them play whatever they can themselves.

Plus, I've said before, the problem isn't -- or wasn't -- Brett per se. It's his hardware.

does "The Chain" really require a Gem ProMega, a Korg Triton & umpteen unidentifiable module racks -- as well as a second drummer, a percussionist, screeching mimis in the backup line, & a second or even third guitarist?

I mean, Jesus christ. Here's what "The Chain" requires: two lead singers (make the 3-part verse harmony a 2-part), a fingerpicked electric lead, one bass, one drum kit, & a Hammond B3.

that's it. C'est tout. Nothing else. Nada. Zip. Zilch. It will actually sound better that way, & I might even return for a 2nd show because the textures will be delineated & recognizable for what they are, & you will be able to hear them alter from show to show, which is a gratifying experience.

There's just no need -- except a wrongheaded notion that your take will be higher -- to turn your rock show into the Dancing Waters sponsored by Sparkletts at Sea World, where you flip a switch & you get the same thing like clockwork.
The greatest lesson I've learned from this band over the years is less is more, which is why the last two tours have left me a little high, dry, and significantly more broke! But, I think a lot of it has to do with Lindsey's obsessive tendancy to want to over orchestrate everything and Stevie's lack of confidence in her own singing ability.
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Sorry, that's just too funny!
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you would think these songs were 17 piece orchestrations with the way they tour now

who said, "less is more"

i love that statement

let me hear Fleetwood Mac, please!

a 4 piece would be awesome, i'd pay to see that
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Other than the words "world" & "turning", I hear no parallel between the two songs. Never have.
I feel the same way! I've never understood why I was supposed to find a connection!
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i hate when he twirls on stage with his shawl and screaming like an old man and makes google eyes at LB

oh wait that's not brett
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I feel the same way! I've never understood why I was supposed to find a connection!

i was really excited as a kid when i pulled these out, only to end up scratching my head
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i was really excited as a kid when i pulled these out, only to end up scratching my head
Again:

"The world keep on turning, I got to keep my feet on the ground" -Green
"World turning, I gotta get my feet back on the ground" -McVie & Buckingham
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as a kid i thought they would be close in music

i realize the play on words
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I agree that it's a stretch, but...

"The world keep on turning, I got to keep my feet on the ground" -Green
"World turning, I gotta get my feet back on the ground" -McVie & Buckingham

Which brings up the question...why didn't Peter Green get a songwriting credit if Mick said that they reworked the Peter Green song?
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:21 AM
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um, because it's not even close
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as a kid i thought they would be close in music

i realize the play on words
Yeah, same here. I expected more similarities. If those few lyrics are it, then they're not all that similar to me.
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um, because it's not even close

There have been plagiarism lawsuits won over songs with even LESS in common that these two.
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