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"If you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative at 40, you have no head." - Winston Churchill "The biggest conspiracy has always been the fact that there is no conspiracy. Nobody's out to get you. Nobody gives a sh*t whether you live or die. There, you feel better now? " "(Sept. 11) was a big thing for me. I was saying to liberal America, "Well, what are you offering?" And they said, "Well, we're not going to protect you, and we want some more money." That didn't interest me." - Dennis Miller |
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But I think there has to be a line between someone going so far up your a$$ with a microscope to find fairly minor faults we all have as human beings and then spinning those faults to make you out to be some sort of monster. For example, people complain Bush got a DWI about 30 years ago. Well, my response was who hasn't driven when they should not have. I certainly have (now I take cabs ) and know no one who has not (remember the legal limit is about one, possibly two cocktails/beer/wine). Yet, people are like "See - W got a DUI so he is a bad person!" I just think that was being human and we are all guilty of things like that even if not this exact example. So, I think the sacrifice today is just too great. Now - if you want to get into whether W lied about getting one - that is a different ball of wax |
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I still want to know if he's a convicted felon. He never fully answered that question either.
I think we both agree that the electoral process needs to be overhauled. The first step is to take the money out of it. |
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Interestingly, I support Bush's right to say I am not answering anything about my life before age 21 (or whenever). Yet, you gotta wonder about what happened before then. |
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We can spin it all we want, but the fact is that his dodge-drafting during Vietnam was and is highly suspicious. He's unaccounted for for lengthy periods of time, some of his former staff from when he was governor have claimed that his records were doctored by the Bush camp, former officers from the Texas National Guard claim the same thing, the public portion of his records that would have been released under an FOIA request have turned up completely missing, he used his family's power to avoid everything that he didn't want to do, etc. If he served as well is he supposedly did, then why are all of these inconsistencies turning up? It makes no sense, but the Right will spin it to make him look saintly. Shrub has some major issues with credibility.
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Yeah...so does Teddy Kennedy and probably every other politician.... Rob
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I notice that you didn't try to refute any of the facts.
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You know, all of your political squabbling just became silly, meandering, and pointless after the first forty-seven back and forth posts.
Half the country found enough merit in Bush to vote for him as president. While I am no fan of his, he's still the president, and to insinuate as it seems like you all so often do that anyone who supports him or at least doesn't spend all their free time trashing him is either A) dumb or B) uninformed is silly. The political squabbling just gets ridiculous. As for Bush compared to Ted Kennedy- are you KIDDING me to say that Bush's credibility in terms of his prior history with alcohol, drugs, etc. is millions worse than Ted Kennedy's... George Bush never KILLED anyone, now did he? |
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My point is few people are willing to point the accusatory finger at themselves before judging. Another good example is how many of us have run a red/caution light (with intent or not)? I submit we all have done this. Did we then go immediately to the police station and turn ourselves in? I didn't. So, I say nail Bush on the big issues (Lord knows there are plenty ) and leave this petty, human nature stuff alone. It is not the battle that will win the war so to speak Last edited by strandinthewind; 01-08-2004 at 02:53 PM.. |
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