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However, I do not think he will be that bad. What exactly do you think he will do that is so horrible? On edit - his use of the NYPD was rather firghtening - but will that translate to the Federal level, which has no police dept., per se, with the exception of the Dept. of Justice and when he worked for them as a prosecutor, he record was very good - I mean he prosecuted Marc Rich 
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But Bush mustnt like good ol' Frank much, Everyone was sure Frank would have been the perfect choice for Shruby-nutts A.G. cabinet position, but the Bush Doctrine, (I meant Adminstration) had something against ol' Frank and chose otherwise. Brian "What do you call an Oklahoman Democrat? A Republican" j.
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As for the Brooklyn Museam - I have to say that with starving children in the US, inadequate health care, etc. - it seems to me that the govt. ought not to fund that - but then again, I think the govt. ought not fund most art when we cannot or will not feed out poor - but that is a whole other debate Anyway - this is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani Opposition to Brooklyn Museum art exhibit In 1999 Giuliani threatened to cut off city funding for the Brooklyn Museum, shut it down and replace its current board with one of his own choosing if the museum did not remove a number of works in an exhibit entitled “Sensation: Young British Artists from the Saatchi Collection.” One work in particular, The Holy Virgin Mary by Turner Prize winning Catholic artist Chris Ofili, was targeted as being offensive to some in the Christian community in New York. This painting depicted a black Mary composed with collaged cut-outs of female genitalia from pornography magazines around her. Like many others by this artist, the montage also made use of elephant dung.[1] Ofili, while refusing to defend his work, commented that "The people who are attacking this painting are attacking their own interpretation, not mine," and that "This is all about control"[2]. In its defense, the museum filed a lawsuit, charging Giuliani with violating the First Amendment right to freedom of speech. This action by the mayor was condemned by groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union, objecting to the mayor's interference with the first amendment rights of the museum and censorship. Religious groups such as the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights supported the mayor's actions [3] [4] At that time, it was widely expected that Giuliani and Hillary Clinton would compete for the open seat in the Senate in 2000. She said the mayor's action was the "wrong response," and added "I share the feeling that I know many New Yorkers have that there are parts of this exhibition that would be deeply offensive. I would not go see the exhibition[5]." The museum's suit was successful, the mayor was ordered to resume funding and the judge declared that There is no federal constitutional issue more grave than the effort by government officials to censor works of expression and to threaten the vitality of a major cultural institution as punishment for failing to abide by governmental demands for orthodoxy[6].
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i couldn't wait to move to nyc for like, three reasons:
1) it was not pittsburgh, pennsylvania 2) the red sox play in nyc (if only occasionally and vs. that team) 3) i could vote against giuliani so i did, gleefully. i wish middle america would wake up and smell the resentment. he didn't save the city and he didn't save the world. and just because he wouldn't be voted off the island first (delay, frist) doesn't mean anyone wants him on it.
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As for the NYPD stuff, I am unsure the drastic change in the crime rate could have taken place any other way, which is saddening - though not all of his actions were bad.. BTW - here is a pretty good article/commentary on the Broken Windows policy if anyone wants to read it http://www.umsl.edu/~nestor/Broken%20Windows.htm
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