Rock and Roll Hall of Fame question?

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by chiliD

They inducted Danny Kirwan & Jeremy Spencer, too...and they weren't there, so they could've inducted Bob, but not invited him to the ceremonies, if that were the case. I seriously DOUBT FMac would've been that crass.

Yes could have been a way round it.

I doubt that FM could have objected to that

Gail

[mzero]

Originally Posted by chiliD

They inducted Danny Kirwan & Jeremy Spencer, too...and they weren't there, so they could've inducted Bob, but not invited him to the ceremonies, if that were the case. I seriously DOUBT FMac would've been that crass.

Well, look where it got them with Van Halen. The two guys who were NOT in the current incarnation were there and nobody with the last name Van Halen WAS.

good one cd, van halen is more disfunctional than fleetwood mac! that is saying something.

going back to the earlier debate about not inducting bob because of pending litigation or personal discomfort at the ceremony....i understand why mick or whoever would want to exclude bob given the particular circumstances. but that shouldn't matter. certainly bob wrote more great mac songs than john, mick, and jeremy, combined, and maybe you could add danny to that collective.

and there are lots band members who have sued each other who are in the r&r hall of fame: mike love and brian wilson are a good example. mike love is a total jerk too, which bob welch is not. jeez if they excluded jerks it would be a small hall. would mick be in? ha, only joking...

anyway, who's right or wrong, or who dislikes who, and who cheated and stole, all that stuff shouldn't matter .getting in should be on merit... in a perfect world.

but of course as vinnie c. said 'its a popularity contest'. that also may have hurt bob with the rrh committee. if mick had said 'no peter green', the hall would have said 'wait a minute, he's a legend, it was his band, he wrote 'black magic woman' for christsakes'. carlos santana would have boycotted being inducted etc. but if mick says no to bob what are they going to do? at the time mac went in bob wasn't exactly riding a wave of nostalgia for 'hypnotized'. the committee probably said 'ok sure, whatever you want'

zero

[Neb-Maat-Re]

All good points about Bob, but on the other hand...

Perhaps acknowledging him may have gone some way to healing the rift.

Yes, the litigation was obstensibly over money, but perhaps sometimes what people are after is some recognition.

And was Bob entirely to blame? Surely he would only have resorted to legal action when other approaches failed?

[Ulpian]

According to the R&RHOF Committee rule, which I read about a while back (re. another band) you are only allowed to induct one - at maximum two - lineups of a band, normally the original and the 'classic'. So, when Blondie was inducted the original members turned up, as did Debbie Harry and her current band.

Apparently because Bob Welch was neither an original member nor a Rumours-era player, and since there were already 8 being inducted, the committee would not include him. Plus, as you say, the others would hardly have gone out of their way to argue the case to have him included.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

According to the R&RHOF Committee rule, which I read about a while back (re. another band) you are only allowed to induct one - at maximum two - lineups of a band, normally the original and the 'classic'. .

So, the Grateful Dead was obviously the exception. And, that assinine rule is probably what is keeping Yes from being inducted.

[doodyhead]

thank you all for filling me in on that piece of trivia.
music business is an oximoron.
is there in existence a recording either video or audio of the induction performance with Carlos Santana and Peter Green? I would love to see/hear it

vinnie c

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by chiliD

So, the Grateful Dead was obviously the exception. And, that assinine rule is probably what is keeping Yes from being inducted.

You mean their music wasn't reason enough for keeping Yes from being inducted

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

According to the R&RHOF Committee rule, which I read about a while back (re. another band) you are only allowed to induct one - at maximum two - lineups of a band, normally the original and the 'classic'. So, when Blondie was inducted the original members turned up, as did Debbie Harry and her current band.

Tell that to the Yardbirds, Rolling Stones, and the Eagles...

[doodyhead]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Tell that to the Yardbirds, Rolling Stones, and the Eagles...

I remember Jeff Beck being surprised to be in with the group because he was kicked out rather bluntly

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

You mean their music wasn't reason enough for keeping Yes from being inducted

Oh, snap! LOL!

I do love some of my Yes albums...but I don't dare brag about it.

[doodyhead]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Oh, snap! LOL!

I do love some of my Yes albums...but I don't dare brag about it.

taste is so subjective, but i do so agree

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Oh, snap! LOL!

I do love some of my Yes albums...but I don't dare brag about it.

There was a time when I was REALLY into that whole genre of rock...

...groups such as:

Yes
Genesis (pre-Trick Of The Tail)
Gentle Giant
ELP
King Crimson (the first 6 or 7 albums)
Curved Air
Renaissance
UK
Asia
The Nice
Gong
PFM
etc.

[aleuzzi]

and remember Saga and Merillion?

Rush
Budgie
and countless others...