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I told you I followed it with a laughie because I thought you were joking. Which I said already. Nice try on the grammar, but no. No I didn't. To wit, I said "Wow, you're totally aggressive right now for no apparent reason. I mean, not that I mind or anything, just noticing with amusement." Again, it's like you didn't read what I said. Are you the one who said even though you're a writer, you don't read that much? Because your justifications for what you say aren't related to what I wrote. You just got really aggressive for reasons that you made up. And you keep making them up. It's quite amazing at this point. It's like talking to a brick wall. A really rude, illogical brick wall. A brick wall who will never get it. A brick wall who gets mad when people say Stevie can sing. A brick wall who takes offense when someone comments on her sadism.
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And I think Stevie's vocal is perfect on the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe." She starts out sounding composed, with just the right hint of resignation... and then builds to the song's climax. I think it's more effective that way than if she came right out of the gate at a full gallop. But, of course, that's just my opinion. I have to say that all of this talk of "can sing," "could sing," "used to be able to sing," makes me wonder how fans of other artists feel. Two people I mentioned earlier, Dylan and Marianne Faithful, have markedly different voices than they did earlier in their career. Did any of their fans throw their hands up in the air, and say, "Gawd, he/she can't sing anymore -- I can't listen to this ****!"? Or do they find beauty in their flawed, latter-day vocals? If Bekka's or Christine's voices ever changed dramatically, for whatever reason, would their fans run the other way? Or would they find an appreciation for their new sound?
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If Bekka's voice, Lindsey's voice, or that of any other of my current favorites deteriorated as much as Stevie's has - to the point where the very sound of it grates on my nerves - I would certainly turn tail and run. On the other hand, there are still some Stevie songs that I do love, as evidenced by my response to the "Create Your Own Best of Stevie CD." Edit: In the case of Bob Dylan, I don't think he ever had a good voice to begin with, so that example doesn't quite seem to fit to me. |
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Again, there's nothing wrong with it, either way. Stevie has one hell of an unusual voice, and always has. So it doesn't surprise me that some people don't care for it now or then or ever. My favorite era for Stevie's voice (1983-1987) is long-gone, but I also love what her voice has become. It continues to effect and move me in ways that no one else's voice ever has, and it brings me endless joy... so hopefully everyone has a singer (or musician) that does that for them.
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As for Lindsey Buckingham and Walter Egan, my initial interest in them was incidental to their association with her. The same can be said for John Stewart, Billy Burnette, and Warren Zevon - all of whose music I now love far more than I ever loved Stevie's. Quote:
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So yes you can find these battles with millions of other singers, even classical or art music singers. The camps divvy up for Callas between "early," "middle" & "late." It isn't just Stevie. And as for the bickering, heck that goes for everyone who elicits any sort of comment in his fans at all. I post on & read some forums for Bach & Beethoven, & these otherwise sedate, older commentators get *really* bitchy with one another. The Stevie Nicks fans are just one more grouping in a sea of groupings--nothing particularly special about them at all. They're like everyone else.
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I like both Stevie and Bekka, for very different reasons.
How lucky a fan like myself has been to have become familiar with both of their works. Is one better than the other? Not in my book. "Better Days" and "Silver Springs" are perhaps my two favorite songs from 1997. Can Stevie sing? Yes. I think her voice can be inconsistent, sounding great on one song, but boring (or worse) on others. Hey, I can say the exact same thing about Bob Welch and Peter Green these days, too. I find a lot of Stevie's new songs boring or cringe worthy. But, I can say the same about Bekka, Christine, Lindsey, Peter, Billy, Bob...and even people who've never been in Fleetwood Mac. That having been said, I prefer Lindsey's SYW songs with Stevie on them than the GOS demos without Stevie. I absolutely detest Stevie's 1986-1994 period, but she was classic before then, and a legend since. (Hey, we all have are awkward periods. Why should Stevie be different?) And this crap about Bekka over emoting? Huh? Does "Dreams unwind, love's a state of mind" mean anything to anyone? Or, what about "Talk To Me" from Red Rocks? Or "Edge Of Seventeen" from that very same video? Or, "Sisters Of The Moon" from the "Mirage" concert video? I mean, let's be fair here. BTW, I think the best worst offender in this category would be Bonnie Bramlett's singing at the end of "That's What My Man Is For" from Delaney & Bonnie's "On Tour With Eric Clapton" album. As I've said, Stevie and Bekka come from two very different schools of music. I think both are valid, and frankly, I enjoy the contrast. Is one better than the other? Who gives a ****?!? Enjoy both of them for their different talents. There's a lot of great stuff there.
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I'm not sure when we collectively stopped being considerate, but it's a damn shame that we did. I guess the only thing we can do, is to try and give better than we get. That way, at least we can live with ourselves.
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And I agree that her voice does work well still for some of her recordings, "Illume" for example, but for others it certainly does not. I remember still being very much in my short-lived Stevie obsession and hearing the Practical Magic version of "Crystal" and just cringing it because was so painful to hear. That was the beginning of the end of my Nicks fandom. |
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