"Krautrock" = "End of the Game"?

[dino]

I agree...Greeny was capable of both the "less is more" approach and the more experimental wah-wah playing in 1970. Both styles were present when he left the band. I'm a huge Hendrix fan (well, Hendrix was a huge Green fan), but IMHO Green was perhaps the best rock guitar player in the world at that stage.

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by dino

I agree...Greeny was capable of both the "less is more" approach and the more experimental wah-wah playing in 1970. Both styles were present when he left the band. I'm a huge Hendrix fan (well, Hendrix was a huge Green fan), but IMHO Green was perhaps the best rock guitar player in the world at that stage.

How do you know Jimi was a huge fan of Peter Green? Have you read a quote somewhere? I'm not doubting your claim, I'd like to know what he said. I know he was a fan of Chicago guitarist Terry Kath. He was another guitarist who was under the radar until he died in 1978. I know of the NYC 12/68 jam at a local club (with Danny). I know both guitarists played together on (at least) a couple of occasions. I have never read a Jimi Hendrix quote concerning Peter Green. Since I'm not an obsessed Hendrix fan (casual), I hope dino can fill me in on the details.

[dino]

Don't think Jimi ever commented on Green in an interview...but I'll check. Mick Fleetwood is the source, if he is to be believed. Hendrix did quote "Oh Well" in concert, at least.

Hendrix was seldom asked about his peers or such, mostly journos asked insipid questions like "where is fashion going"? (A: "People will continue to wear pieces of clothing").

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by dino

Don't think Jimi ever commented on Green in an interview...but I'll check. Mick Fleetwood is the source, if he is to be believed. Hendrix did quote "Oh Well" in concert, at least.

Hendrix was seldom asked about his peers or such, mostly journos asked insipid questions like "where is fashion going"? (A: "People will continue to wear pieces of clothing").

Nothing has changed in over forty years, with the exception of a few serious music magazines (Rolling Stone is no longer on that list).

Back in July I heard a brand new interview with Mike Fleetwood from Sirius radio (U.S. satellite) taped last year in correlation to the 2009 FM U.S. tour. Mick said that without naming names, that the old blues guys went to Peter before Eric Clapton. "He was "the guy""., exact quote. The way Mick Fleetwood can/could play a blues shuffle beat, who can question him? There's a song on Eddie Boyd's "Blue Horizon's" CD that will make your jaw drop (Mick's performance). Otis Spann wanted Peter, Danny, and John for his solo album, yet not Mick. However with no insult, it was S.P. Leary. He was the greatest Chicago blues drummer of all time.


I know at the time Mick felt frustrated playing simple time beats, but it's obvious now that he's over 60, he misses that period of his life. A blues shuffle beat is an art form, and Mick, with the possibility of Aynsley Dunbar were the best from Britain.

If Hendrix quoted "Oh Well", then it's an obvious fact. As Hendrix respected/quoted/played Cream songs, Dylan songs, and the Beatles. Do you happen to know the concert? Is it buried somewhere on "Band of Gypsies?"

[dino]

Originally Posted by slipkid

If Hendrix quoted "Oh Well", then it's an obvious fact. As Hendrix respected/quoted/played Cream songs, Dylan songs, and the Beatles. Do you happen to know the concert? Is it buried somewhere on "Band of Gypsies?"

One example is Spanish Castle Magic from Berlin, September 4 1970. At 2:50.
This show has not been released officially, but you can easily download it on the net...

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by dino

One example is Spanish Castle Magic from Berlin, September 4 1970. At 2:50.
This show has not been released officially, but you can easily download it on the net...

I found it, and I heard the "riff".

First of all, this is Hendrix's last official live show, I've never heard those tapes before (more later). It's also the festival that led to the "Munich incident" to get Peter Green (through Mick Taylor) to get the Rolling Stones to play.

As for Hendrix on guitar, incredible. As for his singing voice, it's alarming two weeks to the day before his death he couldn't sing like he used to. He missed many verses of songs. I think Pete Townshend's opinion of Jimi Hendrix's condition at the Isle of Wight festival August, 1970 is valid. He claims he prayed that he was healthy while Hendrix looked extremely frail. You can't deny those thin wrists by 8/70. Hendrix died because of drugs, with the combination of not taking care of himself with proper nutrition. You don't lose your strength to sing with your voice at the age of 26/27, unless there is an outside influence.

[dino]

Originally Posted by slipkid

I found it, and I heard the "riff".

First of all, this is Hendrix's last official live show, I've never heard those tapes before (more later). It's also the festival that led to the "Munich incident" to get Peter Green (through Mick Taylor) to get the Rolling Stones to play.

As for Hendrix on guitar, incredible. As for his singing voice, it's alarming two weeks to the day before his death he couldn't sing like he used to. He missed many verses of songs. I think Pete Townshend's opinion of Jimi Hendrix's condition at the Isle of Wight festival August, 1970 is valid. He claims he prayed that he was healthy while Hendrix looked extremely frail. You can't deny those thin wrists by 8/70. Hendrix died because of drugs, with the combination of not taking care of himself with proper nutrition. You don't lose your strength to sing with your voice at the age of 26/27, unless there is an outside influence.

A theory is Hendrix wore out his voice the previous day in Copenhagen, where he played a very long set despite being tired or ill. He played a gig on the 6th September at the Isle of Fehmarn (the very last) and there his voice was back in form.
Also, Hendrix had a habit of leaving out lines when he was uninspired or in a bad mood.

There's not doubt that he was very run-down physically during the last European tour, though.

[sjpdg]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Nothing has changed in over forty years, with the exception of a few serious music magazines (Rolling Stone is no longer on that list).

Back in July I heard a brand new interview with Mike Fleetwood from Sirius radio (U.S. satellite) taped last year in correlation to the 2009 FM U.S. tour. Mick said that without naming names, that the old blues guys went to Peter before Eric Clapton. "He was "the guy""., exact quote. The way Mick Fleetwood can/could play a blues shuffle beat, who can question him? There's a song on Eddie Boyd's "Blue Horizon's" CD that will make your jaw drop (Mick's performance). Otis Spann wanted Peter, Danny, and John for his solo album, yet not Mick. However with no insult, it was S.P. Leary. He was the greatest Chicago blues drummer of all time.


I know at the time Mick felt frustrated playing simple time beats, but it's obvious now that he's over 60, he misses that period of his life. A blues shuffle beat is an art form, and Mick, with the possibility of Aynsley Dunbar were the best from Britain.

If Hendrix quoted "Oh Well", then it's an obvious fact. As Hendrix respected/quoted/played Cream songs, Dylan songs, and the Beatles. Do you happen to know the concert? Is it buried somewhere on "Band of Gypsies?"

As I'm sure you've heard (or seen on the DVD), Mick can still blues drum with the best of them! The guy is just phenomenal!! I make no apologies for being a huge fan of Mick's. He's my drumming idol, hands down, no exceptions. Having recently gotten my copy of the "Blue Again" DVD, I was blown away again by Mick's blues drumming. Having been away from it professionally for so many years, it's great to see him back to his roots again. I love it and hope he continues with the MFBB for years to come. Whether or not the Buckingham/Nicks era of FM is finally over or not. Long Live the MFBB!!!!!!