Danny Kirwan Discussion

[Wouter Vuijk]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Seek out "Fleetwood Mac Live in Amsterdam 1969".

The Den Haag version, played a few hours earlier, was better IMO

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

The Den Haag version, played a few hours earlier, was better IMO

Well this is a discovery for me. I'm not sure if the Den Haag version of "One Sided Love" is better, but Freddie King's "San Ho Zay"!?!? That's a pure blues rhythm lockdown, Fleetwood and McVie are Al Jackson Jr., and Donald Duck Dunn! I wish Peter's guitar was as loud as Danny's, because I could tell he was ripping a monster solo. Are there better sounding boots of this song available?



Then there's "Blue Suede Shoes". If this version was performed in the states, the entire band would've been deported within 24 hours. Rap artists were arrested over much less twenty years ago. Jeremy Spencer, you were a true trailblazer!

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Then there's "Blue Suede Shoes". If this version was performed in the states, the entire band would've been deported within 24 hours. Rap artists were arrested over much less twenty years ago. Jeremy Spencer, you were a true trailblazer!

Actually I only heard this song last night for the first time, but it made me think of what Mick said in his book about Harold the dildo (I think that was its name?) and how Jeremy used to stick it out of his fly when on stage. I could almost imagine him strutting around the stage with it and waving it at the crowd during that song.

[aleuzzi]

I love so much of Kirwan's FM work.

It's tough to say which two or three songs I like best because he developed dramatically in the four years with the band. I'll list my favorites by periods:

1968-69:

Something Inside of Me
Like It This Way
Without You

1969-70:

Only You (at BBC live)
When I See My Baby (at BBC Live)
Station Man
Tell Me...

1971-72:
Dragonfly
Sometimes
Trinity (still don't know why this wasn't included on Bare Trees!)
Dust

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Trinity (still don't know why this wasn't included on Bare Trees!)

You're right, Trinity is such a great DK song, I don't know why it never saw release until the box set

[chriskisn]

Ok, so I thought I'd finally get around to saying this...

What is everyone's obsession with Dust and Woman of 1000 years? I can not tolerate those songs (in fact I can't really tolerate the Bare Trees or Future Games albums at all and never play them). I don't think I've listened to Bare Trees since before I met my wife (which is 11 years ago) and the only redeeming feature of Future Games is Bob's "Lay it All Down"

Give me "Hello There Big Boy" over these songs any day...

[Almost Simon]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

Ok, so I thought I'd finally get around to saying this...

What is everyone's obsession with Dust and Woman of 1000 years? I can not tolerate those songs (in fact I can't really tolerate the Bare Trees or Future Games albums at all and never play them). I don't think I've listened to Bare Trees since before I met my wife (which is 11 years ago) and the only redeeming feature of Future Games is Bob's "Lay it All Down"

Give me "Hello There Big Boy" over these songs any day...

I think you prefer the bluesier or heavier tracks. Nothing wrong with that.

I too love those 2 songs. They are more laid back and melodic than his earlier bluesy tunes. Also very mature songs to be written by one so young. Although we do have to remember than Danny didn't write the lyrics for Dust, but its still a beautiful tune.

[Almost Simon]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Trinity (still don't know why this wasn't included on Bare Trees!)

Its very good and maybe would've sat better on the album than 'Danny's Chant.'

[Almost Simon]

Just in case they haven't been listed before, here's the Rupert Brooke's poem 'Dust' from where Danny obtained the lyric's:


Dust
by Rupert Brooke (1887-1915)
When the white flame in us is gone,
And we that lost the world's delight
Stiffen in darkness, left alone
To crumble in our separate night;

When your swift hair is quiet in death,
And through the lips corruption thrust
Has stilled the labour of my breath---
When we are dust, when we are dust!---
Not dead, not undesirous yet,
Still sentient, still unsatisfied,
We'll ride the air, and shine, and flit,
Around the places where we died,

And dance as dust before the sun,
And light of foot, and unconfined,
Hurry from road to road, and run
About the errands of the wind.

And every mote, on earth or air,
Will speed and gleam, down later days,
And like a secret pilgrim fare
By eager and invisible ways,

Nor ever rest, nor ever lie,
Till, beyond thinking, out of view,
One mote of all the dust that's I
Shall meet one atom that was you.

Then in some garden hushed from wind,
Warm in a sunset's afterglow,
The lovers in the flowers will find
A sweet and strange unquiet grow

Upon the peace; and, past desiring,
So high a beauty in the air,
And such a light, and such a quiring,
And such a radiant ecstasy there,

They'll know not if it's fire, or dew,
Or out of earth, or in the height,
Singing, or flame, or scent, or hue,
Or two that pass, in light, to light,

Out of the garden, higher, higher. . . .
But in that instant they shall learn
The shattering ecstasy of our fire,
And the weak passionless hearts will burn

And faint in that amazing glow,
Until the darkness close above;
And they will know---poor fools, they'll know!---
One moment, what it is to love.

[THD]

Originally Posted by Almost Simon

Just in case they haven't been listed before, here's the Rupert Brooke's poem 'Dust' from where Danny obtained the lyric's:


Dust
by Rupert Brooke (1887-1915)
[B]When the white flame in us is gone,
And we that lost the world's delight
Stiffen in darkness, left alone
To crumble in our separate night;

Now ,I don't claim to be the authority on every pop/ rock song ever composed .but Danny must be pretty unique in setting established poems to music,especially those written some generations previously ,in a rock group context , mustn't he ? And so young to be doing it! You could understand a wise 50 year old with some experience of life doing it So lets give him credit for this .