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Old 01-22-2024, 02:02 AM
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You know, if ever there was a time for reconciliation, shouldn't it have been for Christine's funeral? Have these people no class?
This was pointed out to me by a friend and former(bant) Ledgie. And he's right.
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Old 01-22-2024, 10:04 AM
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I think Lindsey was watching what he said. He probably received some sort of threatening letter from Irving after that last round of comments that were made.

Lindsey did spend a ton of time working on Christine's songs, especially for Tango. The majority of the time working on that album was spent on his and Christine's songs. I've always thought he rightfully deserved the title of "The Architect of Fleetwood Mac" that is often given to him. It's pretty clear that the only sense of musical direction the rest of them had for any given project was purely "success" without any vision/point of view of what that means. If you took the songs from Tusk and undid all of the unique things that Lindsey added to the production - I think it would have been an incredibly boring album.

Christine was a master at writing the perfect pop tune, all on her own without any help from a writing perspective, that's for sure. I think Lindsey had a greater sense of vision for projects as a whole that the rest of the band never really had.
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I think Lindsey was watching what he said. He probably received some sort of threatening letter from Irving after that last round of comments that were made.

Lindsey did spend a ton of time working on Christine's songs, especially for Tango. The majority of the time working on that album was spent on his and Christine's songs. I've always thought he rightfully deserved the title of "The Architect of Fleetwood Mac" that is often given to him. It's pretty clear that the only sense of musical direction the rest of them had for any given project was purely "success" without any vision/point of view of what that means. If you took the songs from Tusk and undid all of the unique things that Lindsey added to the production - I think it would have been an incredibly boring album.

Christine was a master at writing the perfect pop tune, all on her own without any help from a writing perspective, that's for sure. I think Lindsey had a greater sense of vision for projects as a whole that the rest of the band never really had.
Lindsey is absolutely to blame for their mega success. His vision and craft IS what made them so radio friendly. They'd be mostly forgotten by now, if it weren't for him.
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Stevie and Mick are really effing lucky, really exceptionally lucky. Lindsey and Christine dragged Tango over the finish line while those two were by all accounts, completely out to lunch. Then they got lucky again because it was a commercial success. Had Tango not happened, it would have changed the trajectory of everything moving forward. I don't know what kind of "comeback" they ever would have had if the last thing they did together was in 1982. Stevie openly admitted for years that '88-'94 were completely lost in terms of writing material and quite frankly the last period of time she was writing substantial new material was probably 2001/2002.
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You know, if ever there was a time for reconciliation, shouldn't it have been for Christine's funeral? Have these people no class?
This was pointed out to me by a friend and former(bant) Ledgie. And he's right.
Stevie’s empire of Sheryl Louis, Irving Azoff, Karen Johnston, Mary Torrey, Jamie Young, Marty Hom, and Sharon Celani likely didn’t permit Lindsey to get anywhere near her at the Celebration of Life event. It’s just likely.
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Stevie’s empire of Sheryl Louis, Irving Azoff, Karen Johnston, Mary Torrey, Jamie Young, Marty Hom, and Sharon Celani likely didn’t permit Lindsey to get anywhere near her at the Celebration of Life event. It’s just likely.
How do you suppose that? Did Lindsey want to get near Stevie? Were all those people at Christine funeral?
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Dennis Dunstun said in the podcast he did that Stevie and Lindsey hugged and said a few words at Chris's memorial
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How do you suppose that? Did Lindsey want to get near Stevie? Were all those people at Christine funeral?
There’s a photo of Stevie leaving the Celebration of Life with Mary, Sharon, and Karen. Stevie fans know Stevie always has her crew with her. I have no doubt Sheryl was there too since Sheryl knew Christine. The only reason Lindsey wouldn’t have wanted to go near Stevie is because he would have felt she wouldn’t have wanted to talk to him and it wouldn’t have been right to approach her.
Stevie said in a 2020 interview that she doesn’t want to talk with Lindsey and that’s fine. She said if it’s meant to, they will. In her stage shows now, she basically blames him for her not voting until she was 71 because somehow he’d be mad with her if she took time to vote or serve jury duty. I think she’s done with him. And the 2021 RollingStone comments from Irving in support of Stevie I think highlight it.

Do I wish they made peace in honor of Christine? Yes I do.
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There’s a photo of Stevie leaving the Celebration of Life with Mary, Sharon, and Karen. Stevie fans know Stevie always has her crew with her. I have no doubt Sheryl was there too since Sheryl knew Christine. The only reason Lindsey wouldn’t have wanted to go near Stevie is because he would have felt she wouldn’t have wanted to talk to him and it wouldn’t have been right to approach her.
Stevie said in a 2020 interview that she doesn’t want to talk with Lindsey and that’s fine. She said if it’s meant to, they will. In her stage shows now, she basically blames him for her not voting until she was 71 because somehow he’d be mad with her if she took time to vote or serve jury duty. I think she’s done with him. And the 2021 RollingStone comments from Irving in support of Stevie I think highlight it.

Do I wish they made peace in honor of Christine? Yes I do.
My god, how can ANYBODY not see how truly STUPID she is? She's a moron.
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My god, how can ANYBODY not see how truly STUPID she is? She's a moron.
What I wouldn't give for 30 minutes with Dan Perfect and a cup of truth tea. Although, Christine had too much class. I doubt she ever aired too much dirty FM laundry.
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What I wouldn't give for 30 minutes with Dan Perfect and a cup of truth tea. Although, Christine had too much class. I doubt she ever aired too much dirty FM laundry.
Her brother John knew/knows far more than Dan. and Chris did air a little when she got fed up. we all would...

and I admire LB also for his seeming willingness to move past whatever happened. i'm sure he can be ass at times, but i just wonder what it was that made her totally despise him.

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Folks criticize Lindsey for being so open to working with her again, but I gotta admire the guy for not being bitter and sour about it the way that Stevie certainly is. She just reeks of jealousy at this point. Her remarks and actions while they were working on Buckingham McVie already reeked of it. It's shocking what a truly ugly person she's become and I used to be a huge fan.
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There’s a photo of Stevie leaving the Celebration of Life with Mary, Sharon, and Karen. Stevie fans know Stevie always has her crew with her. I have no doubt Sheryl was there too since Sheryl knew Christine. The only reason Lindsey wouldn’t have wanted to go near Stevie is because he would have felt she wouldn’t have wanted to talk to him and it wouldn’t have been right to approach her.
Stevie said in a 2020 interview that she doesn’t want to talk with Lindsey and that’s fine. She said if it’s meant to, they will. In her stage shows now, she basically blames him for her not voting until she was 71 because somehow he’d be mad with her if she took time to vote or serve jury duty. I think she’s done with him. And the 2021 RollingStone comments from Irving in support of Stevie I think highlight it.

Do I wish they made peace in honor of Christine? Yes I do.
Her whole take about their living/working arrangement when they first moved to LA has taken a 360 in reverse. Literally for years, up to 2013 she would explain that yes, she waitressed while Lindsey worked on music. She was fine with that because she knew how talented Lindsey was and it was more important for him to dedicate his time to their music while she worked during the day.

After the events of 2018 - all the resentful remarks started and it became a whole different story. I'm waiting for the day she tells an arena of 15k people that it was her dad who owned the coffee plant and gave them the space to record with the 4-track machine she purchased.
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