Bob Welch has died

[thenepotist]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I personally don't see why Welch, Burnette (the second longest tenure of Fleetwood Mac guitarists), and possibly Vito weren't included. There were many artists in there who've done less.

Dude you haven't changed a bit.

[SteveMacD]

There have been lots of changes, like playing a one-off show with Bob Pollard and becoming a roadie for Guided by Voices. And that's just the headline.

[David]

Originally Posted by thenepotist

Dude you haven't changed a bit.

My favorite! From way back! I still have the music you did and listen every so often.

It's interesting how much turmoil the commercialized and superficial RRHOF generates. The whole thing's just an industry and media arm, isn't it?

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'd be majorly disappointed and surprised if it were Stevie. It doesn't strike me as her style. Plus, to the best of our collective knowledge as fans, Stevie had no reason to bear a grudge toward Bob or want him blocked from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. It would also seem that Bob, in the years after the R&RHoF snub, harbored no ill-will toward Stevie or Lindsey.

In his 1999 Q&A here on The Penguin, he wrote, "I talk to Stevie once or twice a year, and always go to her show if she's in town... Of course my "beef" was not anything to do with Stevie or Lindsey anyway. I haven't talked to Mick, John, or Chris at all, and frankly don't expect to.."

That was my initial thinking also JohnnyStew....but the comment that the issue came from a person one wouldn't expect and someone who said or fostered the impression that they'd kept up with Bob over the years....made me wonder about Stevie.

I do agree, though, that the nature of their relationship over the years, certainly in the early years of the LB/SN tenure in the band, made it seem they had a good relationship with Bob. Hence, I'd be really disappointed if it were Stevie. But as the band members themselves often say about themselves, after all these years nothing that could happen would be surprising.

[desertangel]

I thought for a moment it was Stevie too simply because Wendy's Facebook post said a well-known little small-minded person. I never thought of Stevie as small-minded, but then maybe we don't know her like other people might know her.... but then later Wendy said it wasn't Stevie. I don't know who else it could be and at this point, I no longer care because it feels like drama and I can't stand that chit.

[CADreaming]

It's useless to speculate even though I know it's a normal to be curious after Wendy's original post. Again, she clarified it with:

"Don't try to guess because you couldn't anyway and Bob loved this person and it's over now and Mick is trying to help. I never should have mentioned it. Bob wouldn't want me to or you either LOVE FLEETWOOD MAC."

Originally Posted by michelej1

Lindsey may not have been close to Bob or he may have hated his guts, I don't know. Maybe he didn't feel it was worth mentioning. However, if he had any sentimental feelings about Bob, I'm not surprised that he didn't acknowledge the passing. His father died in 1974 and his brother died 16 years after that and Lindsey still gets choked up trying to dedicate a song to them in concert after all of these years.

Even just making an observation that Greg would have been proud of Cory made him tear up on stage, so if he felt emotion about Bob Welch, he might have wanted to keep it private, especially so soon after the event, rather than standing in front of an audience trying to find words about something so tragic. It's easy to do such a thing if it's someone you admired from afar, but if you actually spent time with them as a human being and have this vision of that person whose face and voice you knew going into a room and taking their life, I can imagine that a polite speech might be a little hard to cook up on the fly.

Michele

I totally agree, Michele.

[thenepotist]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

There have been lots of changes, like playing a one-off show with Bob Pollard and becoming a roadie for Guided by Voices. And that's just the headline.

Clearly the boy's still coming "straight outta Dayton". What else, knitting with Kelley Deal?

[wetcamelfood]

Didn't Bob post on the ledge (I think in the Rumours section) that he tried to go see Stevie last time they came to his area on the last tour but Karen Johnston wouldn't let him or Wendy in? I know he didn't think Karen was nice because he said Karen was unsympathetic to disabilities that I guess Wendy has or something.

John

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by thenepotist

Clearly the boy's still coming "straight outta Dayton". What else, knitting with Kelley Deal?

No, but she has been recording with some friends of mine, so I've seen her around a bit.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

Didn't Bob post on the ledge (I think in the Rumours section) that he tried to go see Stevie last time they came to his area on the last tour but Karen Johnston wouldn't let him or Wendy in? I know he didn't think Karen was nice because he said Karen was unsympathetic to disabilities that I guess Wendy has or something.

John

When that incident was mentioned on facebook, Wendy's only comments were "Stevie loved Bob, I know that." and "She had no contempt for Bob that she showed me."

I do remember Bob referring to that incident here with "Karen", as he put it.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

Didn't Bob post on the ledge (I think in the Rumours section) that he tried to go see Stevie last time they came to his area on the last tour but Karen Johnston wouldn't let him or Wendy in? I know he didn't think Karen was nice because he said Karen was unsympathetic to disabilities that I guess Wendy has or something.

John

I think you may be referring to these...

Originally Posted by missus

And BTW; recently my wife was (THANK GOD) MIS-diagnosed with a fast moving form of liver cancer...We were told, erroneously thank GOD, that the chemo and other treatment could completely bust our lifetime insurance cap....and that we better start thinking about maybe doing some fundraisers...we were panicked..I immediately got on the phone and started calling;....1st Mick Fleetwood...Mick said he would play(we weren't asking for money, just "time and talent)anytime, anywhere...so did Rick Vito...so did Billy Burnette...so did Walter Eagan....so did Jeff Baxter. Stevie Nicks and Lindsey didn't bother to even return my calls. The die is cast...I now know who's got a heart and who doesn't....REALLY got a heart, not the phony heart on sleeve BS that often passes for "empathy" in Hollywood. Sorry to have to say this...Stevie stiffed me and my wife....so did Lindsey....Mick and everybody else came through when we really thought Wendy was at death's door...A misdiagnosis, again, thank God. I will never forget who was a friend....and who wasn't.

Bob Welch
wx-Fleetwood Mac,Capitol Records artist etc. etc.

...and...

Originally Posted by missus

Betsy...Thanks for your good wishes ! In Nick's case, I don't think it was a "management protecting the prima-donna" thing...because I called Stevies brother , Chris Nicks too.And Chris is very close to Stevie, like I am with my own sister...So I'm sure he told her...she just didn't want to get involved...too many "other" charity gigs with higher publicity profiles I guess..

BTW, these were culled from the "Sheryl Crow joining Fleetwood Mac" thread from 2009.

So here's my take... the fact that Bob would even consider reaching out to Lindsey and Stevie at that point in time means that he was at least on some sort of speaking terms with them, which theoretically wouldn't be the case if either one of them had banished him from the RRHOF.

Noticeably absent from the "charity gig" post were John and Christine. Is it possible that John has not quite gotten over the lawsuit? John is an enigma... a "mystery to me," if you will. He seems so easy-going, humble and civil, yet I understand he is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican , which totally flies in the face of anything resembling "sympathetic" or "compassionate." When Louie asked John about Bob being inducted into the RRHOF in his Ledge Q&A, John's reply was decidedly terse and vague:

That's a good question. Maybe he should have been. What do we do about Bob Weston, Dave Walker, Rick Vito, Billy Burnette & Dave Mason? Thanks again! McVie

And when Louie asked him later on whether he kept in touch with past members of FM, John replied:

I don't have any contact with past members of the Band. I saw Peter briefly in London on the last tour. Billy Burnette turns up every once in a while. As does Jeremy. Mick is the one who stays in touch with a lot of them. And there are a lot of them!

At this point, I almost don't want to know who was ultimately behind Bob's exclusion from the RRHOF. The speculation is so much more interesting.

[CADreaming]

^That was a separate incident from the backstage thing.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

He seems so easy-going, humble and civil, yet I understand he is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican , which totally flies in the face of anything resembling "sympathetic" or "compassionate."

Now there's a narrow minded stereotype, if ever I saw one.

Seriously.

"Liberal" minds are fine with others views, as long as it resembles their own.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

Didn't Bob post on the ledge (I think in the Rumours section) that he tried to go see Stevie last time they came to his area on the last tour but Karen Johnston wouldn't let him or Wendy in? I know he didn't think Karen was nice because he said Karen was unsympathetic to disabilities that I guess Wendy has or something.

John

Well, has anyone EVER posted anything nice about Karen? Although, I suspect it's her JOB, to be a Cee U Next Tuesday. It makes for a much better public profile, for the star to be all nicey nice, and "who's that f*cking b*tch who told me to get away from her?"

And I remember Bob posting, at least a couple of years ago, about Wendy's health issues. I can't remember now if he posted exactly what they were or not...

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Now there's a narrow minded stereotype, if ever I saw one.

Seriously.

"Liberal" minds are fine with others views, as long as it resembles their own.

Okay then... name me one, generous, civic-minded, compassionate, humane Republican? Abraham Lincoln doesn't count because he's dead.