Green era concert tapes

ash1 · #1 10-04-2007, 05:33 AM

hi everyone
i wanted to know if anyone has a list of what green era mac shows are in circulation/known to exist or if there's a site that lists such a thing. I have to say i enjoy the concert recordings i've heard far more than the studio stuff. Peter's playing late 69 to leaving FM is bettered only by Hendrix imo and Danny's songs and playing are great if not in Peter's league. It's a shame that only the Boston box legally documents this.
thanks
ash

chiliD · #2 10-04-2007, 08:42 AM

Actually, there's more than just the Boston Tea Party that was officially (or semi-officially) released.

There's also disc two of the ShowBiz Blues set and the Shrine '69 album; both of which are excellent.

Also, there's an album (in that grey area between "official" & "bootleg") called The Original Fleetwood Mac Blues Band that was recorded in January 1970 at the Fillmore West.

zoork_1 · #3 10-05-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ash1

hi everyone
i wanted to know if anyone has a list of what green era mac shows are in circulation/known to exist or if there's a site that lists such a thing...[...]

I guess there's at least 40 shows in circulation. I have
most of them on a list. Perhaps someone here has a
(more) complete list. If all say nada, I'll help you out.

/Z

dino · #4 10-06-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zoork_1

I guess there's at least 40 shows in circulation. I have
most of them on a list. Perhaps someone here has a
(more) complete list. If all say nada, I'll help you out.

/Z

Yes, Peter was incredible then.
I also think only Hendrix is comparable to Peter in the late '60s.

Here's my list of FM era Greeny.
Note that there are fake shows in circulation, such as Aberdeen '68,
which consists of Radio One sessions.

PETER GREEN'S FLEETWOOD MAC

13/08/67 WINDSOR FESTIVAL, ENGLAND (first ever gig) AU, B 25
15/08/67 MARQUEE CLUB, LONDON, ENGLAND SB, A- 55
15/08/67 MARQUEE CLUB, LONDON (2 TRACKS NOT ON OFFICIAL CD) AU, B+ 8
08/67 MIDDLE EARTH CLUB, LONDON AU, B 23
27/04/68 POLYTECHNIC, LONDON AU, B 40 (cd)
07?/05?/68 AARHUS, DENMARK AU, B 15
??/06/68 CAROUSEL BALLROOM, SAN FRANCISCO (2 CD-R) SB, A 116 (w.Paul Butterfield)
07/06/68 CAROUSEL BALLROOM, SAN FRANCISCO AU, B+ 80
06?/07/68 FILLMORE WEST, SAN FRANCISCO, CA AU, B+/B 45
13/07/68 THE SPACE, NEW YORK AU, B 45
68-70 VARIOUS TV APPEARANCES TV, A 30
17/11/68 COPENHAGEN, DENMARK AU, B 51
11/68 GOLDEN CIRCLE, STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN AU, B+ 70
11?/68 HELSINKI, FINLAND AU, B 15
23/11/68 IDROTTSHUSET, ÖREBRO, SWEDEN AU, B 45
31/12/68 SURPRISE PARTY, FRENCH TV TV, A+ 12
25/01/69 EXPOSITION HALL, LOS ANGELES, CA SB, A+ 55
19/04/69 COLLEGE OF DISTRIBUTIVE TRADE, LONDON, ENGLAND AU, B+ 45
19/04/69 COLLEGE OF DISTRIBUTIVE TRADE, LONDON, ENGLAND (1ST GEN.) AU, B+ 56
20/04/69 AMSTERDAM, HOLLAND ("ROUGHAGE" BOOTLEG) SB, A- 55
20/04/69 AMSTERDAM, HOLLAND (COMPLETE) SB, A- 60
22/04/69 ROYAL ALBERT HALL, LONDON, ENGLAND AU, B 45
04/09/69 STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN - this is in fact 04/11/69 AU, B 61
24/09/69 KULTUURITALO, HELSINKI, FINLAND AU, B 45
24/09/69 KULTUURITALO, HELSINKI, FINLAND (upgrade, more complete) FM/AU, A-/B 77
26/09/69 PAVILION GARDENS, BUXTON, ENGLAND AU, B 45
09/10/69 ESSEN, GERMANY AU, B- 45
04/11/69 STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN AU, B 120 (2 CD-R)
06/11/69 ÖREBRO, SWEDEN AU, B+ 84 (2 CD-R)
07/11/69 NJARDHALLEN, OSLO, NORWAY AU, B+ 45
21/11/69 FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK AU, B+ 44
02/01/70 FILLMORE WEST, SAN FRANCISCO AU, A- 84 (2 cd-r)
02/01/70 FILLMORE WEST, SAN FRANCISCO AU, A- 90 (from master) (2 cd-r)
04/01/70 FILLMORE WEST, SAN FRANCISCO AU, A- 74
07/01/70 WHISKEY A GO GO, LOS ANGELES AU, B+ 30
17/01/70 EAGLES AUDITORIUM, SEATTLE, WA SB, A- 92 (2 cd-r)
17/01/70 EAGLES AUDITORIUM, SEATTLE, WA SB, B+ 97 (2 cd-r) (worse quality, but 3 minutes longer "Rattlesnake shake")
30/01/70 THE WAREHOUSE, NEW ORLEANS SB, A+ 60
31/01/70 THE WAREHOUSE, NEW ORLEANS AU, B+ 90 (2 CD-R)
01/02/70 THE WAREHOUSE, NEW ORLEANS AU, B+ 45 (GREEN/GRATEFUL DEAD)
05-07/02/70 BOSTON (w. Eric Clapton) SB, B+ 20
05-07/02/70 BOSTON TEA PARTY, BOSTON SB, A 130 (2 CD-R)
11/02/70 BOSTON TEA PARTY, BOSTON (GREEN/G. DEAD) SB, A 70
15/03/70 HANOVER, GERMANY AU, B 72
19/03/70 SPORTPALAST, BERLIN, GERMANY AU, B- 45
25/03/70 VIENNA, AUSTRIA AU, B+ 90 (2 CD-R)
26/03/70 BOBLINGEN, GERMANY AU, B 107 (2 CD-R)
28/03/70 FALKONERCENTRET, COPENHAGEN, DENMARK AU, B+ 45
01/04/70 KONSERTHUSET, STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN AU, B+ 145 (2 cd-r)
03/04/70 HELSINKI, FINLAND AU, B 37
04/04/70 PARIS THEATRE, LONDON FM, A+ 70
19/02/71 SWING AUDITORIUM, SAN BERNADINO, CA SB, A+ 38 (replacing J. Spencer) (1st. gen)
26/02/71 FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK AU, C+ 68 (replacing J. Spencer) 27/03/71 ROCK PILE, LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK AU, C+ 28 (replacing J. Spencer)

zoork_1 · #5 10-06-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dino

Yes, Peter was incredible then.
I also think only Hendrix is comparable to Peter in the late '60's...[...]

I agree.....

Nice of you to come up with a list....

What is your subjective opinion concerning Berlin,
is it listenable, or is it for die-hard fans?

/Z

ash1 · #6 10-06-2007, 03:19 PM

thanks for putting your list up. It's nice to see so many concerts are around.
I'm new at this board but this is the kind of info that should be easy to find imo. It's easy finding stuff about the beatles,stones,hendrix,brian wilson etc but i'm really surprised that someone as good as PG appears to be so overlooked net-wise and in the public conscious. I guess he's a bit of a Syd Barrett/pink floyd in that respect (and others...hmmm)....those in the know swear he's the best but the general public think fleetwood mac is Stevie Nicks (roger waters/gilmour in floyd's case). Anyway, i'll be checking my tapes off against that list. Many thanks
ash

Wouter Vuijk · #7 10-06-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zoork_1

I agree.....

Nice of you to come up with a list....

What is your subjective opinion concerning Berlin,
is it listenable, or is it for die-hard fans?

/Z

Nice list, indeed. I think I'll comment/ask questions in the days to come, making comparisons to my list. But for now I'll just comment on the Berlin quality. IMO B- is too much credit. I'd rate it at C-/D, meaning: listenable for die-hard fans....

dino · #8 10-07-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

Nice list, indeed. I think I'll comment/ask questions in the days to come, making comparisons to my list. But for now I'll just comment on the Berlin quality. IMO B- is too much credit. I'd rate it at C-/D, meaning: listenable for die-hard fans....

Yes, Berlin is a hard listen.
It depends on the grading system, I guess.
C- on my trading list is "totally unlistenable"...

There MUST be more recording out there somewhere - "new" Hendrix
tapes from the same time frame keep appearing 30-40 years later.

zoork_1 · #9 10-07-2007, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

I think I'll comment/ask questions in the days to come, making comparisons to my list ...[...]

Good to hear from you Wouter. Looking forward to some comments on sound quality.

/Z

ash1 · #10 09-06-2008, 04:43 AM

just looking at this list again . Dino or anyone else able to elaborate on the 1968 to 70 various tv appearances 30 mins in terms of tracklisting and sources.
i was particularly interested to know if PGFM's last appearance (playing I'm a tiger ? ) is included or even exists as audio but further details would be appreciated.
thank you
ash

Ms Moose · #11 09-06-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ash1

just looking at this list again . Dino or anyone else able to elaborate on the 1968 to 70 various tv appearances 30 mins in terms of tracklisting and sources.
i was particularly interested to know if PGFM's last appearance (playing I'm a tiger ? ) is included or even exists as audio but further details would be appreciated.
thank you
ash

I think this might be the BBC sessions (between 68-70)issued in a number of CD's: Live at The BBC, Show-Biz Blues and The Vaudeville Years.

The last appearance by FM on BBC was recorded on the 9th of April 1970 and broadcast on April 19 and 22 1970. Amongst others they play "Tiger" (Jeremy Spencer), and it is issued on the 2 CD Show-Biz Blues.

Anyway Thanks for the list Dino. I am comparing with my own list too, and find that I miss some of them.

Ms Moose

dino · #12 09-06-2008, 05:40 PM

From memory, it's three tracks from Norway '68, the Playboy clip and a TV show from USA, 1969. Not very logical, just some tracks collected that don't show up anywhere else. Not sure which "Tiger" you're talking about? Perhaps the one from Paris cinema April 9, 1970 as Ms Moose surmised? That wasn't filmed, unfortunately.

lespaul1970 · #13 09-06-2008, 07:53 PM

Thanks for the list Dino! Great for sure!

Dino or anyone know where any of these shows are available? Besides the commonly circulated ones of course?
I've heard the Paris Theatre show from 4-4-70 is unreal and has great sound as well, Ive just never been able to find it.

I'm new to alot of online trading, etc. so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again to Dino and everyone for the help with getting started a couple weeks ago!

kowk · #14 09-07-2008, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lespaul1970

I've heard the Paris Theatre show from 4-4-70 is unreal and has great sound as well, Ive just never been able to find it.

In the beginning you can try to get this show to listen to (in mp3 192kB/s) from a good man's site from Spain (I suppose).
It is called - London Underway. It contains 9 tracks because Rattlesnake Shake/Underway is didided to two tracks. Normally it is as one tracks from this show.
There is also available a fragment of Amsterdam 1969 show.
http://telhadosdomundo.blogspot.com/...=fleetwood+mac
I think you soon will get a little help from Greeny's fans who trade shows in audio format.
Krzysztof

kowk · #15 09-07-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dino

04/04/70 PARIS THEATRE, LONDON FM, A+ 70

I have this show and it only lasts about 59 min not 70 min.
1. Rattlesnake Shake/Underway - 14:12
2. Stranger Blues - 4:21
3. World In Harmony 3:40
4. Tiger - 3:26
5. Green Manalishi - 15:25
6. Coming Your Way - 7:37
7. Great Balls Of Fire - 2:44
8. Twist And Shout - 7:37

Have I missed any tracks?
Best regards from Poland
Krzysztof