They Really Dropped the Ball..

Janet · #1 09-04-2005, 01:01 PM

Thousands are officially dead from Hurricane Katrina. Not one person should have died. They knew it was coming and that it was strong. I saw the warnings on the weather channel a day before it was near the coast.

They should have gotten out the poor without cars. They should have gotten everyone out.

With all the technology today, no one should have died. This could have been avoided right? Why did so many have to die for no reason???

michelle2677 · #2 09-04-2005, 01:08 PM

exactly....

Our nation is built around helping people who can't help themselves...oh but wait...that's just when it comes to other countries. Gawd forbid we help our own people..

I'm angry right now, and it's probably just going to progressively get worse

diamondsnake · #3 09-04-2005, 01:09 PM

Well I think it was impossible to avoid any deaths whatsoever, but perhaps there was a way to avoid so many fatalities. Weren't these people told to leave though? Some of them just plain didn't listen. I think a lot of people just didn't realize how catastrophic this storm would be.

dissention · #4 09-04-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Weren't these people told to leave though? Some of them just plain didn't listen.

These people are dirt poor. How would they have gotten out? Where would they have gone? How would they be able to leave their homes and survive without any money?

gldstwmn · #5 09-04-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

These people are dirt poor. How would they have gotten out? Where would they have gone? How would they be able to leave their homes and survive without any money?

I wanted to repsond to this but I am getting tired of having to type the same thing over and over. Thanks diss.

dissention · #6 09-04-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I wanted to repsond to this but I am getting tired of having to type the same thing over and over. Thanks diss.

No problem. I cannot for the life of me understand why people are asking "Why didn't they leave?" I wanted to throttle Larry King last night for asking that over and over and over and over. And asking the children of people lost in New Orleans, no less.

michelle2677 · #7 09-04-2005, 01:19 PM

not all of the people who stayed are dirt poor tho. I mean, yes..those that really couldn't get out, those are the ones I feel for.
but there ARE many stories of ppl that just didn't leave. There was a guy on the radio the day before that didn't want to leave because he and his wife had just put so much money into their new business, they didn't want to leave it

(or maybe it was CNN) THOSE are the people I think of when I hear.."why didn't they get out"

diamondsnake · #8 09-04-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

These people are dirt poor. How would they have gotten out? Where would they have gone? How would they be able to leave their homes and survive without any money?

True......

Janet · #9 09-04-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

These people are dirt poor. How would they have gotten out? Where would they have gone? How would they be able to leave their homes and survive without any money?

I mean these buses could have come and gotten these people out. They could have packed a bag if they had one, gotten their kids and gotten OUT instead of died. They had a couple or more days ( meaning officials, not the "poor" people) and they could have prepared to get these people out. Do they they think they even knew? No, but WE did...it's like they were left there to die almost.

That's what I meant. I know the average person in these lower income housing wouldn't just leave their homes. But if they had been forced to...taken to places before the storm? Was that even possible?

Brwn_eyes0511 · #10 09-04-2005, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet

I mean these buses could have come and gotten these people out. They could have packed a bag if they had one, gotten their kids and gotten OUT instead of died. They had a couple or more days ( meaning officials, not the "poor" people) and they could have prepared to get these people out. Do they they think they even knew? No, but WE did...it's like they were left there to die almost.

That's what I meant. I know the average person in these lower income housing wouldn't just leave their homes. But if they had been forced to...taken to places before the storm? Was that even possible?

I agree with you.

I don't think blame for this needs to be placed on the national level but on the local level!

HUNDREDS of buses could have been used to pick these people up!

Nixxxed · #11 09-04-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I agree with you.

I don't think blame for this needs to be placed on the national level but on the local level!

HUNDREDS of buses could have been used to pick these people up!

This whole "why didn't they pick them up in buses?" question is just not based in reality.

You have to realize how big New Orleans is. And, the hurricane finally settled in its path on late Thursday, apparently targeting the city. That means less than 48 hours before conditions were too bad to drive these "buses" around at all.

Think about this - how many buses have been used to transport people from centralized locations like the Superdome and NO Convention Center in the last 4 days? Hundreds, if not close to a thousand. And there are still thousands of people trapped there. So, buses going house-to-house through the streets of NO (with the weather deteriorating every second) would have been able to get people out of their homes? Did you ride a bus to school when you were young? Did it ever run on time? For that matter, do normal city buses or subways ever really run on time?

Not to mention you have to be trained to drive a large vehicle like a bus safely - it's not something you can just hop in and zoom on down the road. And also not to mention that many of the people who normally drive said buses wanted to take care of their own needs, and may have even evacuated. Who would have driven them?

strandinthewind · #12 09-04-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I agree with you.

I don't think blame for this needs to be placed on the national level but on the local level!

HUNDREDS of buses could have been used to pick these people up!

Please listen carefully this time - it was FEMA, which is Federal, not a state, Agency's job to do the evacuation. Do you not understand that FEMA evacuated according to their plan the people to the Dome in the first place. So, please stop incorrectly saying it is all the state's fault. That is wrong. Thus, the blame for dropping the ball is solidly on the shoulders of FEMA and W as the President. But, you will never admit this. Why, I have no idea.

gldstwmn · #13 09-04-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet

No, but WE did...it's like they were left there to die almost.

Yes, it is. That was what Kanye West was alluding to the other night, I believe. Some people are talking about genocide.

diamondsnake · #14 09-04-2005, 02:28 PM

I really hate to admit this but you guys are starting to change my mind on this whole issue...

michelle2677 · #15 09-04-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Well I think it was impossible to avoid any deaths whatsoever, but perhaps there was a way to avoid so many fatalities. Weren't these people told to leave though? Some of them just plain didn't listen. I think a lot of people just didn't realize how catastrophic this storm would be.

I agree..many of them didn't leave because they had lived thru camille and just thought the media was just giving it a lot of hype. But then there are those that really couldnt' get out. But technically..if I saw that big ass storm coming my way..I would have started hoofing it..hahah..

but I guess by the time theyrealized it...it was really too late....(to walk, or whatever...)