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Old 12-08-2022, 12:14 PM
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At most, Billy’s name came up in passing, but he and Rick were never in serious consideration for Fleetwood Mac. Remember the stack of tapes they talked about?
Rick and Mick weren't speaking in 2018. Rick said in a Peter Green tribute that he and Mick went their own ways in 2016.
Per Rick's social media, it seems 2016 meant his support of the right wing. And Mick is not right wing.
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Old 12-08-2022, 12:31 PM
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Per Rick's social media, it seems 2016 meant his support of the right wing. And Mick is not right wing.
Yeah, but John’s a registered Republican, so I really doubt that plays too much into anything.
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Old 12-08-2022, 12:40 PM
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I could be wrong but didn’t Rick once say perhaps in an interview here when asked why he quit in 91 that maybe one day he’d write a book and tell the story.

I’ve gotten the sense he’s not on great terms with Mick and hasn’t been on more than one occasion.

Personally I could take it or leave it when it comes to Mick as he’s done allot of crappy things to members in FM including Bob, Lindsey, Etc
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Old 12-08-2022, 05:34 PM
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Yeah, but John’s a registered Republican, so I really doubt that plays too much into anything.
I think Stevie is a Republican too but I meant Rick's support of "Trumpism." Rick could be a registered Democrat, I don't know.
I don't think John would agree with James Woods.
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Old 12-08-2022, 05:39 PM
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For me, it all comes down to either Stevie has full control over Fleetwood Mac or she doesn’t. There’s no in-between.

People have been bitching ad nauseam for nearly five years about Stevie power tripping and getting Lindsey fired. If she had that kind of power and she really wanted Billy back in Fleetwood Mac, Billy would have been back in Fleetwood Mac.
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:12 PM
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Do you really believe it was Mick’s management and not Irving Azoff? Irving wasn’t about to put two guys who are best remembered for replacing Lindsey Buckingham on a tour of that magnitude.
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There was never a serious consideration for bringing back Billy.
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For me, it all comes down to either Stevie has full control over Fleetwood Mac or she doesn’t. There’s no in-between.

People have been bitching ad nauseam for nearly five years about Stevie power tripping and getting Lindsey fired. If she had that kind of power and she really wanted Billy back in Fleetwood Mac, Billy would have been back in Fleetwood Mac.
I agree with all your statements 100% and I think the ladies probably wanted to spare Billy's feeling by blaming it on Mick's management.
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Old 12-08-2022, 09:15 PM
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How fascinating to read about Billy's "involvement" with Charlie Manson and his "Family" in this article. First time I ever heard him talk about that.
But hands down my favorite part of this entire interview was this: "When you step onstage with Fleetwood Mac, you know that Stevie is the star of that show. Everybody knows that, in the band, and outside the band."

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Old 12-08-2022, 10:27 PM
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"When you step onstage with Fleetwood Mac, you know that Stevie is the star of that show. Everybody knows that, in the band, and outside the band."

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How fascinating to read about Billy's "involvement" with Charlie Manson and his "Family" in this article. First time I ever heard him talk about that.
But hands down my favorite part of this entire interview was this: "When you step onstage with Fleetwood Mac, you know that Stevie is the star of that show. Everybody knows that, in the band, and outside the band."

Long live my Queen. The Queen of Rock & Roll.
I know that was crazy. The second member of Fleetwood Mac that had a connection to Charles Manson. Chris's boyfriend used to be roommates with Manson.
Tells you everything about the band doesn't it

BTW, Billy is just truthful. As being at those Mac shows with Billy and even today, the vast majority of "fans" are there for Stevie. The band knows this and so does Stevie. Its frustrating but its the truth. In 1987 as I waited in line for Tango tickets people raving about Stevie. When someone commented on Christine, I heard someone say "no one comes to see her."
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Old 12-10-2022, 01:07 PM
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For me, it all comes down to either Stevie has full control over Fleetwood Mac or she doesn’t. There’s no in-between.

If she had that kind of power and she really wanted Billy back in Fleetwood Mac, Billy would have been back in Fleetwood Mac.
I agree. I do think it was Mick who mentioned Neil Finn's name at the FM meeting table. Mick seems to be a big fan of Neil's work. They've played live together too.

There probably was an attraction for Stevie to sing Don't Dream It's Over every night and I Got You, since she loves those songs. I'd bet they rehearsed Something So Strong as well.

Billy is abundantly talented and he's impressive but Stevie wanted a person that at least millions knew a song or even two by. That's not Billy, nor is it Rick (but he and Mick weren't talking in 2018 anyway)

And for who else Stevie put forward for lead singer names, in my gut, I think she offered Keith Urban and Harry Styles.
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Man oh man. It would have been a bad career move for Harry Styles to do an FM tour! He’s young and on his way up! I don’t know if Keith Urban would have benefited much but he’s also a much bigger star.

Neil was a good choice commercially. He is a name but not so huge that he wouldn’t do it. And he kind of did it as a lark and a big payday and has used the momentum to really push his own projects as well as Crowded House with the momentum. As much as I love Neil and I love FM, I don’t regret giving that tour a pass. But there’s no way Stevie will do an FM tour. She was put off by the backlash from the Lindsey firing and can make money and be worshipped as a solo artist.
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Old 12-11-2022, 06:28 PM
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Man oh man. It would have been a bad career move for Harry Styles to do an FM tour! He’s young and on his way up!
Makes me think of why Deacon Frey chose to leave the Eagles. Even though selling out arenas every night would be a dream come true for any musician, you're only young once, and that's the window in which you "make it".

Keith Urban could've pulled it off, vocally and as a (THE)guitar player. Wouldn't have hurt his career at all
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Old 12-11-2022, 05:58 PM
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I agree. I do think it was Mick who mentioned Neil Finn's name at the FM meeting table. Mick seems to be a big fan of Neil's work. They've played live together too.

There probably was an attraction for Stevie to sing Don't Dream It's Over every night and I Got You, since she loves those songs. I'd bet they rehearsed Something So Strong as well.

Billy is abundantly talented and he's impressive but Stevie wanted a person that at least millions knew a song or even two by. That's not Billy, nor is it Rick (but he and Mick weren't talking in 2018 anyway)

And for who else Stevie put forward for lead singer names, in my gut, I think she offered Keith Urban and Harry Styles.

She loves every song she's ever asked about..... Maybe she did love singing those songs, but honestly, either way she'd say she did, because that's her doing her "good soldier" thing and selling whatever the latest project is.
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Rick and Mick weren't speaking in 2018. Rick said in a Peter Green tribute that he and Mick went their own ways in 2016.
Per Rick's social media, it seems 2016 meant his support of the right wing. And Mick is not right wing.
I know Rick participated in the tribute concert to Peter Green- wasn’t that after 2016? It seemed like Mick and Rick were getting along then. Or maybe I’m wrong about the dates?
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I know Rick participated in the tribute concert to Peter Green- wasn’t that after 2016? It seemed like Mick and Rick were getting along then. Or maybe I’m wrong about the dates?
They split in 2016 and Mick reached out to Rick in 2019 or 2020 and put their stuff aside and told Rick he couldn't imagine doing a tribute to Green without Rick.
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