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Discuss Oh Well
Ok, I'm going to try my hand at this. Forgive me for my lack of technical knowledge, but what do I need to know when I hear the line DONT ASK ME WHAT I THInK OF YOU, I MIGHT NOT GIVE THE ANSWER YOU WANT ME TO. Without a doubt probably one of the best if not the best song ever to come out of Fleetwood Mac! Never gets old, Never.
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What is technical about that line, David? I guess I am not understanding your question. I posted a vid for OhWell earlier today in the "what ru listening to" thread. I really enjoy this song too.
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To me, the song isn't just the best Fleetwood Mac song of all-time, it's the best song (bar none) of all-time.
Listen to Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog"...how much of an inspiration was "Oh Well" in the creation of that song? Quite a bit, it appears.
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Hope you guys don't mind...I am posting the video here...so I can have handy...
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No what I meant was I have a hard time explaining the technical side of a song. I'm just not too good at it
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yeah...'don’t ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer you want me to' |
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I believe the line was in reference to him replacing Eric Clapton in the Bluesbreakers...and peoples comments regarding Peter's abilities as said replacement..."Clapton is God" was in vogue during this period of british blues...so "replacing" "God", as Peter did, probably stired the pot so to speak, and this was how Peter felt about the whole thing...correct me if I'm wrong... |
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How about this without reference to Clapton or the green god, to me the statement is simple Honesty. Most people if they really thought of it know their own faults, foibles, assets and quirks. Its easy for someone to criticize someone else, isnt it? We do it all the time. We know what we mean when we think or talk. Does anyone else understand us? What do they hear? first statement I can tell you about the shape Im In, Icant sing, I ant pretty and my legs are thin, self assessmnt second statement. If this is what I think of myself what would you expect me to say about you? but dont ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to. second line. only god knows what is in our hearts and can lead us here is peters dilemna with being a band leader. He did not want to be the last word or the answer for others. If you read what he had said to many a fan after that time and of his accounts of jam sessions where everyone diferred to him, this statemet makes complete sense When I talk to god i know he understands, he says sit by me and I'l be your guiding hand, but dont ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to. doodyhead |
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I do like the particular line mentioned in david's initial post, but for this song I prefer the guitar riffs, etc more than the lyrics themselves. Which is a HUGE feat for me great jam song, great-everything-about-it song
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Peter replaced Clapton in '66 twice. First when Clapton left for his "Greek holiday", then when Clapton came back, Mayall took him back in (that was when they recorded the "Beano" album) and Peter was bounced out...then Clapton left again to co-found Cream. Peter once again joined on, the Hard Road album was recorded (along with many other tracks, too, hence an entire second CD of outtakes was recently released on the Deluxe Edition of the album). Peter stayed for about a year or so, then he formed Fleetwood Mac in 1967. "Oh Well" was recorded in 1969, released in 1970.
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Actually, the first time Peter Green replaced Eric Clapton in the Bluesbreakers was during '65, not in '66. During that time, apparently John Mayall tried out several replacements for Clapton, and Green was the last of these (and apparently the most satisfactory), but Green only played with the band for a very short time before Clapton returned from Greece.
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John Paul Jones about Oh Well and Black Dog
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If there’s one Fleetwood Macera Peter Green riff you’ve gotta know, it’s the one from “Oh Well” (from Then Play On). How come? There are few honors in the music biz greater than having one of your songs provide the inspiration for another classic-rock standard, so dig this: According to John Paul Jones, who penned Led Zeppelin’s immortal “Black Dog” riff, the song was intentionally modeled after Green’s “Oh Well.” Jones, in a recent feature in the UK publication Record Collector, cited the song’s lengthy, low-register riff and quirkily timed vocal breaks as chief motivational factors. Admittedly, Green’s riff, the studio version of which begins with the growling, low-register syncopations notated in Ex. 9a played on nylon-string acoustic (!), is much longer. This four-bar call-and-response figure— echoed by Green’s overdriven Les Paul on the repeat—features nearly identical passages in bars 1 and 3, the only difference being the B versus Bb in the middle of beat two’s triplet. The song continues with Green and Kirwan matching each other’s phrasing note-for-note in different octaves on the pair of riffs shown in the first two bars of Ex. 9b, before concluding with another “Black Dog”-ish move as Green shifts the meter to 5/4, prefacing his own “B.D.”-like vocal breaks. Depending on which version you reference, G&K either play this measure in octaves, as in bar 3, or in harmony, when Green would replace the lower octave part with the one shown in Ex. 9c. Rock on and keep shakin’ it!
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