Article re: Buckingham open to return to FM

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo

If John is still up for sailing, stick him, Mick and Lindsey on a cruise ship. Now there's a Rumours night for you!

He might agree to a residency somewhere, but I doubt even that. John is smarter than the rest of them.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Do you mean cerviche? I love it!

I hope you enjoy projectile "raw" seafood!

Hint- wear a poncho!

Of course, and obviously peruvian cebiche is the best.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Yeah--something else had to have occurred. LB and Mick have both referred to a general band unhappiness "about the way things were." That suggests an ongoing interpersonal and/or professional problem. I remember Rolling Stone article from 2015 (2016?) where Christine was astonished that they were still fighting, that their problems "should have been resolved a long time ago."

From what I heard on my end, she was not so much astonished (i think their behavior was almost expected by then) as just fed up and disgusted that the same issues were being rehashed so venomously, for so long, with no real progress ever made. almost anything became an issue to bicker over.

I think maybe LB feels some guilt at this point, as someone else said. maybe with the passage of time he can more clearly see his own fault in what happened...? i think he's the type who would like to be the one that said 'well I tried, i held out the olive branch, she didn't take it' so as to deflect some of the assholey reputation all that brought him?

At this point i would maybe like to see Mick doing something with Lindsey...? leave stevie and her drama out of it, she seems happy on her own. i think mick and LB might get some enjoyment of some sort of project together because they seem to get on well. hopefully mick isn't too desperate for $ and is living within his means. and imo John is just done and would have no real interest in playing again at all. I hope he is enjoying the hell out of his boat... occasionally smoking a relaxing joint as he catches tons of fish and reads some really good books, and maybe finds some peace in his lifetime of memories.

--Lis

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

That was 37 years ago. Part of the reason he went with Carl Stubner after Dennis retired is because Carl was a money guy, first, and set Mick up with a financial manager.

“And Mr. Fleetwood is now planning to turn over the bulk of his funds to David Manashe, a friend of Mr. Stubner and a stock broker at Dean Witter Reynolds, a unit of Morgan Stanley, Dean Witter, Discover & Company.”

So, he has someone looking over his money and the child support days are over, with the younger daughters being 22.

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/30/b...-tomorrow.html

Whatever bankruptcies that have been reported since were for businesses, not his personal finances. Anything else is him licensing his name.

Plus, his property in Hawaii has to be worth a small fortune.

And let's not forget Mick recently sold his share of FM publishing to Hipgnosis or whomever for a massive lump sum of money. his comment at the time was that getting this lump of cash now would allow him to do a number of things that he otherwise would have had to space out over time (ie as money came in from subsequent FM tours). Let's see how well it works for him having a money manager... I predict in a few years, because he won't keep tabs on his money, he could easily find out he's been swindled out of millions. Then what does he do?? I wouldn't assume he's not still financing the lives of his daughters -- both the younger ones and even the older ones and any grandchildren they may have produced. And god knows how many 'helpers' he has.... he did have one assistant with him when I went to one of his meet and greets several years ago (who kinda creeped me out and frankly didn't seem very bright, but very impressed with himself nonetheless...). And there's no income from the restaurant and gift shop in Maui anymore...

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Let's see how well it works for him having a money manager... I predict in a few years, because he won't keep tabs on his money, he could easily find out he's been swindled out of millions.

That’s been in place since the mid-90s. The quote was from 1997. The money manager was a friend of Carl’s and worked for Morgan Stanley, so I doubt that’s the kind of situation where getting swindled is likely. Furthermore, that would be grounds for one hell of a lawsuit.

And god knows how many 'helpers' he has....

Most of those people are tour specific.

And there's no income from the restaurant and gift shop in Maui anymore...

I wonder how much that actually brought in. It seems like something like that would have a massive overhead. And, did he actually own the business or was he more of an advisor who licensed his name? I’m sure there was some money, but probably not enough to support his lifestyle.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

he did have one assistant with him when I went to one of his meet and greets several years ago (who kinda creeped me out and frankly didn't seem very bright, but very impressed with himself nonetheless...).

I know exactly who you're talking about. That person was perfect for running a rural one floor motel that still uses hard keys.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I know exactly who you're talking about. That person was perfect for running a rural one floor motel that still uses hard keys.

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The money manager (...) worked for Morgan Stanley, so I doubt that’s the kind of situation where getting swindled is likely.

No comment.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Of course, and obviously peruvian cebiche is the best.

Never heard of it, but I'll try anything once.

[justcrazylove]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

I know exactly who you're talking about. That person was perfect for running a rural one floor motel that still uses hard keys.

This right here, is a FANTASTIC insult. I will be using it in the future.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by justcrazylove

This right here, is a FANTASTIC insult. I will be using it in the future.

Poor Homer

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Poor Homer

What did I do now?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

What did I do now?

Something. I have no idea what, but something.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

What did I do now?

I forgive you, and the spell that you cast.

[BigAl84]

I think the "No finger pointing" comment really reeks of not wanting to get in any additional spats with team Azoff. Sadly, I bet there's been a fair amount of bridges burned/blacklisting that Azoff made sure happened as a result of the fallout. It sounded like he didn't like Lindsey in the first place, before the feud.