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Peter jammed with some local guys in the basement of that Munich mansion. The music was new and fresh, and it thrilled Peter. Next Fleetwood Mac gig Peter thought his own playing was superb, but Mick told him he sounded as if he was mad.
I think the only way the "Munich incident" contributed to Peter leaving, was that it strengthened the feeling that he and the rest of the band were going in different musical directions. Besides, they were just young lads ... as we develope and mature we realize that we differ in personalities and interests. I think they were growing apart, rather than together (if that makes sense). McVie's "Trauma city" story is a nice myth, but probably nothing more than that. What really thrills me about the whole story is: WHERE IS THE DAMN TAPE?!?!? Last edited by dansven; 01-30-2011 at 01:13 PM.. |
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Peter personally felt betrayed by the rejection of his ideas, which fifteen years later would have him nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize (Live Aid; Bob Geldof). If I'm 23 years old, was considered the leader/driving force of a potentially great rock band only to be told "NO" for my ideas, I would be extremely angry. While Mick Fleetwood has settled his differences with Green back in the 70's, John McVie never came around. Last edited by slipkid; 01-31-2011 at 01:36 AM.. |
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What was the next gig? I want tapes!!! It's all about the Wah pedal. Peter Green became obsessed with it after Munich. He tried to use it at every opportunity. Yet he didn't use for those great slow blues songs. Only Hendrix could match what Peter Green was doing with that device at the time. I've heard all of the experimental late 1970 Jimi Hendrix outtakes. "End Of The Game" is on another level. If you listen to that album today, it's makes sense. Forty years ago, they would've tested your sanity, and they did. Yet it's not insane music. |
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I was referring to the tape made in the basement with the people on the Munich house. I've heard ex-wife Jane has it. But yeah, I would like to have a tape of the gig Fleetwood Mac played next too!!!
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Peter Green wants those Munich tapes as well. Concerning Jane Samuels, I don't think it's going to happen. As of 1999 Peter Green had yet to meet his daughter at the age of 21. I'm sure that whatever happened to cause this rift, it's probably best not discussed.
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Well at least I now know where you stand. If you listen to the album (EoTG), there is a song that sounds like it's from Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew". The Roundhouse late April 1970 solo of "Black Magic Woman" is pure wah pedal perfection. It's beyond Beck, and Clapton at the time. The only other guitarist was Hendrix. Let's also not forget the "Underway" breaks in the Rattlesnake Shake jams, or the "Sugar Mama" from Amsterdam 4/69. He was the only British guitarist who didn't fear Jimi Hendrix because he could play with him, and he did on at least a couple of meetings. |
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Would agree that the only competition at the time was Hendrix. But he jammed with Clapton, Jeff Beck and Green in New York during 1968, so your statement is a bit off. Peter on Jimi: "RN: Did you meet Jimi Hendrix? PG: Yes, I bumped into him. RN: Did you ever play with him, jam with him? PG: Yes, twice. Once he took over from me in the Speakeasy; I was jamming with Eric Burdon and some other people. There was an interesting atmosphere around Jimi Hendrix. Very Hard to discern briefly. RN: Did you like his playing? PG: Not particularly, No. RN: Why? Was it too loud? Too fast? PG: Too ahead of itself. If you didn't see that or you weren't prepared for it. it could take you surprise." Last edited by dino; 02-02-2011 at 02:00 AM.. |
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Many guitar players at various points in their life have acted like gunslingers seeing who is better. Fans like to rate things too. In my opinion (back to the original thread) in the short period that Peter played with a Wah Wah pedal, got very,very very good at using it. and of course like all of us. I would love to have heard what he sounded like in the early 7o's but I suspect that he just did not play as much as his life began to redirect. and of course Jimi Hendrix did not get any better either. doodyhead Last edited by doodyhead; 02-02-2011 at 08:09 AM.. Reason: rethinking |
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Peter did some tasty wah-wah on Toe Fat's "There'll Be Canges Made".
And he actually did some on wah-wah in the last years with Splinter Group too. |
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Overall IMHO it's useless to argue about which players are "best". Green and Hendrix had rather different approaches, both neither was into "cutting contests" and there surely was mutual admiration there. Last edited by dino; 02-02-2011 at 12:04 PM.. |
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...but it is very interesting to follow this discussion about the wah-wah. I never liked the sound of it no matter who played it - not even our hero But I suppose it's a matter of ears or taste? On the matter of "who is best" I agree with you dino, but leaving out "the cutting contests" would also mean less heated discussions on The Ledge. Maybe instead of discussing "who is best" we should describe what it is we like about Hendrix, Green or whoever...? There is a world of difference in the playing and both is magnificent in different ways. Ms Moose |
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With Hendrix I like the free-flowing imagination, the extreme pushing of boundaries, the ability to play whatever genre of music, the way the guitar sounds like a human voice. With Greeny I like the beautiful tone, the incredible taste and restraint, the purity of expression. And then both had great voices and wrote cool songs. Not many musicians have that combination. Not Clapton, not Beck. Does anyone have another particular favorite player? |
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Several good guitar players, some because of their technique, others because of what/how they play. B.B King in the 60s. Snowy White is superb. Charlie Sexton in Dylan's band. Willie Nelson's later stuff is uneven but charming. George Harrison's solo slide playing is tasty. Jerry Garcia. Freddy King. Muddy Waters, simple but good. Blind Willie Johnson. Django. Jeff Beck, Ronnie Wood, Joe Perry... Anyway, I think none of them have Peter's feeling and taste or Jimi's imagination. Not even close.. |
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