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Old 03-15-2024, 03:23 PM
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I know there was a mystery man in Chris's life right before recording this album. However she was separating from Eddy shortly after The Dance. My hunch is Bad Journey is about Eddy. "Trusted you with all my heart, never dreamed you tear me apart" sort of implies it was a very devoted and long relationship and not a fling. Her song Nights in Estoril (10 years prior) was just as colorful but about her devotion to Eddy. Its also an adventurous song that mentions places. Is Bad Journey the bookend version of Nights In Estoril?

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unfortunately i think she stuck w eddy until about 2000, when he finally moved out completely. not sure if his new GF was knocked up by then, but she may have been. from what i heard, chris did love ed and also reeeeally didn't want to be alone, so she turned a blind eye to a lot of crap and tried to make it work far beyond what she probably should have. Those angry songs could definitely be about him.

but she also had that mystery guy around 2003... there are never a lack of *sshole men in the world to write about haha so I'm sure he inspired some of the ITM songs as well.

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unfortunately i think she stuck w eddy until about 2000, when he finally moved out completely. not sure if his new GF was knocked up by then, but she may have been. from what i heard, chris did love ed and also reeeeally didn't want to be alone, so she turned a blind eye to a lot of crap and tried to make it work far beyond what she probably should have. Those angry songs could definitely be about him.

but she also had that mystery guy around 2003... there are never a lack of *sshole men in the world to write about haha so I'm sure he inspired some of the ITM songs as well.

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I dig into the word "journey" that implies sort of a long road or long travel which can be interpreted to that long relationship they had. I have an obsession about both Nights In Estoril and Bad Journey for their vivid description of places. Chris was with Eddy for awhile which could be another clue for all the places she was with him at while in the States. She was living in England when the song was written yet all the places on this "journey" are in the states. Their relationship ending came at the worst time in her life. She was retired and needed that rock and stability to help her transition.
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I dig into the word "journey" that implies sort of a long road or long travel which can be interpreted to that long relationship they had. I have an obsession about both Nights In Estoril and Bad Journey for their vivid description of places. Chris was with Eddy for awhile which could be another clue for all the places she was with him at while in the States. She was living in England when the song was written yet all the places on this "journey" are in the states. Their relationship ending came at the worst time in her life. She was retired and needed that rock and stability to help her transition.
I think her issues with him were a big part of her decision to move away and retire in the first place. and he sure wasn't a rock or providing stability in the latter half of that marriage. George Hawkins told me Ed was really pressuring her to *not* be involved with the band and tour anymore, etc....which is weird because he was screwing around all over the place whenever she was away. So then I think he just started doing it when she was home! but he was giving her ultimatums like, 'I won't be here when you get back' if she had continued on the tour. and she caved to him.

He also was not a fan of her 'lifestyle' of constant drinking, which I suppose I can understand, but on the other hand he should have known what he was marrying because she had alcohol issues from the day he met her, just like I assume she knew of his playboy reputation. I'm sure his behavior did not help her drinking, which probably made him feel validated in doing what he wanted. It was a vicious cycle.

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