Should Wendy Welch remain on this site

[iamnotafraid]

my two cents...

Since there seems to be relatively few insiders here I can't imagine it
being overwhelming to check on their post frequently and delete them
if needed. Possibly legally necessary for The Ledge if they're defamatory.

And most especially in this section of the Ledge where there are few and
infrequent posts. Maybe another moderator could be added to make sure
no shenanigans were going on like some silly person posting things like April
Fools' jokes that seemingly upset so many people. And no, I don't want to be
a moderator.

If Wendy is who she says she is (has that been verified?), she seems to need
professional help. Coping with Bob's death and everything that came after
seems to have been more than she can handle on her own. Maybe The Ledge
could help in her recovery.

People who know and actually have worked with the members of Fleetwood
Mac aren't necessarily special or more important than the rest of us. But the
insight they offer is special and for that purpose they shouldn't be permanently
banned.

That was more than two cents worth.

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Coping with Bob's death and everything that came after
seems to have been more than she can handle on her own. Maybe The Ledge
could help in her recovery.

Or maybe spending time her was preventing her from getting real help. Internet forums are no place for treatment of any kind. I often felt like she wanted us to validate her anger at other FM members, and if you didn't completely buy into what she was saying, that just seemed to fuel her more, which isn't good for her. Not long ago in one of her rants, she said Christine resented Bob for selling more solo albums than her, and that's why she blocked him from the RRHOF. I didn't understand why this new "reason" suddenly emerged after so many other messages on the same topic, and obviously it made no sense (wouldn't she resent Stevie even more?). That's when I decided she's just mad at the world and wants us to be too. I feel very bad for what she's going though, but we can't really give her the help she needs.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

And most especially in this section of the Ledge where there are few and
infrequent posts. Maybe another moderator could be added to make sure
no shenanigans were going on like some silly person posting things like April
Fools' jokes that seemingly upset so many people. And no, I don't want to be
a moderator.

I don't think it's worthwhile to use a moderator for that purpose. As for your post, I think it came out about two days ahead of April Fools.

Regarding Wendy, she did not want to be moderated. She demanded to have the removal of her post reversed and if it wasn't she promised that her and "Bob's friends" would publicly expose this site as being in support of child molestation. Of course, she can expose the site as anything she wants -- on her Facebook page, which is also where I think she can find the most cathartic relief for her grief, if relief can be found online at all.

Michele

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

... if Wendy had acted like a rational human being whilst here on The Ledge. Every post was borderline slanderous (if not fully) and negative in nearly every sense of the word.

You write this^, and then in post #49 you tell me and everyone else
that "it also has little if anything to do with the trouble some of her post cause".

You could and should have took expand your mind as just me saying
that you should read all my post on the subject before replying like you did
to me.

I can only base why I think Wendy was banned on what Michelle, moderators,
members and what my own eyes read. And then I gave my opinion that I didn't
think she should be permanently banned because of the insight she offered.

Note it's my opinion. And I don't really remember coming here and
knocking the broom out of your hand. Plus I had no idea you consider this
work, or even a work place. Telling Michelle or any moderators how to do
their job? You'll have to point me to those posts. I'm looking forward to that.

In closing. I don't live in fear of you or this place. I enjoy some of my time
here, but it's not something I couldn't live without. All I ask is, if you do respond
to any of my post please be accurate and not so condescending. I'm just a lowly
member that doesn't have light shed on all these matters.

I'd rather speak about the topic of this thread.

I had to pause to watch Stevie on the ACM'S.

[aleuzzi]

Does anyone associated with The Ledge have any connection with Mick? Perhaps such a person would be able to apprise Mick of the situation, explain that Wendy is genuinely hurting and suffering, and encourage him to reach out to her and put her in the way of business professionals who can help her manage Bob's estate and legacy.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

You write this^, and then in post #49 you tell me and everyone else
that "it also has little if anything to do with the trouble some of her post cause".

That part above was my fault, I meant to say that every one of her posts directed at Jeremy.

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

You could and should have took expand your mind as just me saying
that you should read all my post on the subject before replying like you did
to me.

I can only base why I think Wendy was banned on what Michelle, moderators,
members and what my own eyes read. And then I gave my opinion that I didn't
think she should be permanently banned because of the insight she offered.

Note it's my opinion. And I don't really remember coming here and
knocking the broom out of your hand. Plus I had no idea you consider this
work, or even a work place. Telling Michelle or any moderators how to do
their job? You'll have to point me to those posts. I'm looking forward to that.

In closing. I don't live in fear of you or this place. I enjoy some of my time
here, but it's not something I couldn't live without. All I ask is, if you do respond
to any of my post please be accurate and not so condescending. I'm just a lowly
member that doesn't have light shed on all these matters.

I'd rather speak about the topic of this thread.

I had to pause to watch Stevie on the ACM'S.

Hmm. Mkay.

First, when I originally quoted the line that I did from you, it was a reply for everyone... not just for you. Remember you're not the only one reading this thread, and everyone is going to have questions about why Wendy is no longer here.

What happened next was that you decided to respond to me by saying "expand your mind", which was a condescending thing to start with.

I asked you to keep that to yourself next time. Then in later posts you said I got my "panties in a wad", asked me to "chill out" etc. Again... condescension.

Yes, moderating here is a sort of job, and a privilege. And when you suggested that I expand my mind, and that my response was unwarranted as having only come to "Michele's rescue" , well, excuse me if I see that as dripping with further unnecessary condescension.

Now, since you stated that you're looking forward to me pointing out those instances to you, and that you can't wait to come back with another (what you believe to be) well informed reply, that indicates to me even more mindful instigating behavior on your part. If we were on a playground, it'd be fair of me to say that you started it. Nenny nenny boo boo. That sort of silly thing. So, since we've established you as the primary mover of discontent in this instance, I would only add that any other comment you feel the need to express on the matter be directed at me via private message.