Stream Mick, LB, SN Interview with Redbeard

[michelej1]

In The Studio with Redbeard for Rumours 35th Anniversary:

http://www.inthestudio.net/this-week...leetwood-mac-2

When California musical duo (and lovers) Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined British blues-rock veteran band Fleetwood Mac, their first collaboration in 1975 (their “white album” ) sold more copies than any previous album in the long history of their label . No one was in any way prepared for this new line-up’s stunning initial success , so you can imagine the in-house anticipation for Fleetwood Mac’s next effort . They had to wait a full year for it , however , as four of the five members were breaking up literally in the studio while Rumours was being recorded . Fleetwood Mac co-founder drummer Mick Fleetwood joins Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks with me In The Studio for the 35th anniversary of one of history’s most popular albums ever at around forty million sold worldwide ( half of that U.S. sales ), an album that Rolling Stone magazine ranks at #25 on their Top 500 All Time list .- Redbeard

[Macfanforever]

Thank for the heads up.On my local station last night they had a different Redbeard show on the air.Of course my local station probably screw up on this FM show like they did with Stevie's Redbeard interview.

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

In The Studio with Redbeard for Rumours 35th Anniversary:

http://www.inthestudio.net/this-week...leetwood-mac-2

just listened to it. was a bit surprised about lindsey's answer to the RS visionary question. mainly the bitterness about FM not giving him the producer credit for rumours. maybe he's thinking of all the money he's losing with all these recent rumours sales... and i'm imagining how many solo albums and tours we could have had if he did get that credit?!

EDIT: LB part of the interview was recorded in 2007. so italicized part is my incorrect speculation based on the assumption that the interview was more recent.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by elle

just listened to it. was a bit surprised about lindsey's answer to the RS visionary question. mainly the bitterness about FM not giving him the producer credit for rumours. maybe he's thinking of all the money he's losing with all these recent rumours sales... and i'm imagining how many solo albums and tours we could have had if he did get that credit?!

Perhaps... but I think it's his bitterness with Fleetwood Mac which has always driven his solo career. It was the band's reaction against Tusk which largely pushed Lindsey's experimentations into a solo career (because they were no longer welcome within the band). The frustration with the band that lead him to abandon the group fueled the best album of his career: Out Of The Cradle. If Lindsey was always pleased with the band, he probably never would have made any solo albums at all. It's his frustration with Fleetwood Mac which seems to almost solely drive him as an artist. It's kinda interesting that that's what his muse is.

[elle]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Perhaps... but I think it's his bitterness with Fleetwood Mac which has always driven his solo career. It was the band's reaction against Tusk which largely pushed Lindsey's experimentations into a solo career (because they were no longer welcome within the band). The frustration with the band that lead him to abandon the group fueled the best album of his career: Out Of The Cradle. If Lindsey was always pleased with the band, he probably never would have made any solo albums at all. It's his frustration with Fleetwood Mac which seems to almost solely drive him as an artist. It's kinda interesting that that's what his muse is.

that's interesting twist you bring up... i agree with the bolded part of course, he said that himself many times - it's his stock answer about tusk, right before he launches into his small machine talk. but a producer credit for rumours (which one can think of more as a business-related thing) would have nothing to do with his post-tusk music-related frustrations. which really resulted in L&O and GI, not necessarily OOTC.

his leaving the band seemed to have more to do with the personal closures that he wanted, not necessarily musical frustrations. and i could argue that GOS1 would have probably been the best album of his career - but it was ruined by WBs asking him to take it apart to put parts on the FM album.

what i was originally trying to say is that i'm surprised he's bringing the producer non-credit now - and in response to a question about Rolling Stone magazine calling him a visionary. i don't know whether he's just taking shots at Mick or i should re-think what Not Too Late is really about.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by elle

and i could argue that GOS1 would have probably been the best album of his career - but it was ruined by WBs asking him to take it apart to put parts on the FM album.

Lindsey calls the shots on what songs go on what album. WB had the power to put his solo release on hold and encouraged the FM reunion but WB didn't have anything to do with the songs - that's the producer's prerogative.

[elle]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Lindsey calls the shots on what songs go on what album. WB had the power to put his solo release on hold and encouraged the FM reunion

yeah yeah - so you don't think that WB or Cavallo suggested that some of the GOS1 songs should go on FM album?

so what did you think of the interview? SHN, NGBA and GYOW responses?

[elle]

Originally Posted by elle

i'm surprised he's bringing the producer non-credit now - and in response to a question about Rolling Stone magazine calling him a visionary. i don't know whether he's just taking shots at Mick or i should re-think what Not Too Late is really about.

responding to my own post but - what does this have to do with not getting a credit for producing rumours? not much to me - producing rumours was in the past, these lyrics are set in present and talk about future:

Reading the paper saw a review
Said I was a visionary, but nobody knew
Now that's been a problem
feeling unseen
Just like I'm living somebody's dream

What am I doing anyway
Telling myself it's not too late

I'm not a young man but I'm a child in
my soul
I feel there's room for songs that
are sung
For chances not taken for deeds not
yet done

What am I doing anyway
Telling myself it's not too late

My children look away they don't know
what to say
My children look away they don't know
what to say

So that's been a problem
feeling unheard
So called visions always deferred
It must be the reason I developed
this need
You know you should never believe
what you read

What am I doing anyway
Telling myself it's not too late

My children look away they don't know
what to say
My children look away they don't know
what to say

(LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM - NOT TOO LATE LYRICS)

[David]

Hi, Louie!

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Perhaps... but I think it's his bitterness with Fleetwood Mac which has always driven his solo career. It was the band's reaction against Tusk which largely pushed Lindsey's experimentations into a solo career (because they were no longer welcome within the band).

I think you're right. He found himself in a band full of musical reactionaries, & his pipe dream of rewriting the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys history was dashed. (Lindsey says that Wilson's desire to try new styles of music marginalized him in his band, which ultimately stranded him.) I think that, for a short time at least, Lindsey had genuine confidence in Fleetwood Mac's future as an experimental band--a band that refused to follow the commercial dictates of the mass audience (always wanting more of the same), but in so doing, a band that would be able to reshape the audience's preferences, to actually improve the audience's taste & sense of adventure.

The frustration with the band that lead him to abandon the group fueled the best album of his career: Out Of The Cradle.

Oh my goodness, that's just wrong.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by David

Hi, Louie!



I think you're right. He found himself in a band full of musical reactionaries, & his pipe dream of rewriting the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys history was dashed. (Lindsey says that Wilson's desire to try new styles of music marginalized him in his band, which ultimately stranded him.) I think that, for a short time at least, Lindsey had genuine confidence in Fleetwood Mac's future as an experimental band--a band that refused to follow the commercial dictates of the mass audience (always wanting more of the same), but in so doing, a band that would be able to reshape the audience's preferences, to actually improve the audience's taste & sense of adventure.

In the core, this is what made me a lifetime Fleetwood Mac Fan. During Tusk I discovered the backcatalogue of FM pre-BN, and since Tusk really teached me about what art is, or what it could be, I believed in this huge band as a musical innovative monster. I had heard Then Play on, Future Games and Mystery to Me and concluded that this band had always had an edge of experiment in it's roots. To this day, I believe that they still have it in them, as long as Lindsey gets the room to build it in dialogue with enough good material that he did NOT write and with the counterinfluences of the two ladies and the rythmsection. But they have to BE there and fight him!!!

[michelej1]

Ok, I found it. The hard "c" word I wanted to remember was cahoots.
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph...v2&id=6519&c=9

This interview is from November 2006, so close to Redbeard.

"Mick will usually be in cahoots with whatever is going on with Stevie," Buckingham says. "It's not about anything other than wanting to grease the machinery. They were saying next time we tour, we're going to move the mikes closer together and you're going to look in Stevie's eyes. I didn't say anything. Other than we did this play, I suppose we can do that play, too.

Lindsey is just being devilish here because the two worse SnL things on the SYW tour were instigated by him. The Tusk Dance and Say Goodbye. I don't think Stevie was ever comfortable with the Tusk Dance. She didn't mind Say Goodbye, but in the end Lindsey began to get a little more personal with his intro and she did get more nervous and emotional. LB may or may not have been playing up to the crowd, but it wasn't because Mick or Stevie put him up to it. He does that stuff himself. Now with the Sara hug, that might very well have been Stevie's idea. Silver Springs dynamics during the Dance tour were probably partly her [but Lindsey's idea to chase her, looked like his]. But half the stuff he does on his own initiative Stevie didn't come up to say to him, "Hey, at the end of Don't Stop, why don't you come up and rub your face in my hair." He thinks those things up.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Lindsey is just being devilish here because the two worse SnL things on the SYW tour were instigated by him. The Tusk Dance and Say Goodbye. I don't think Stevie was ever comfortable with the Tusk Dance. She didn't mind Say Goodbye, but in the end Lindsey began to get a little more personal with his intro and she did get more nervous and emotional. LB may or may not have been playing up to the crowd, but it wasn't because Mick or Stevie put him up to it. He does that stuff himself. Now with the Sara hug, that might very well have been Stevie's idea. Silver Springs dynamics during the Dance tour were probably partly her [but Lindsey's idea to chase her, looked like his]. But half the stuff he does on his own initiative Stevie didn't come up to say to him, "Hey, at the end of Don't Stop, why don't you come up and rub your face in my hair." He thinks those things up.

Michele

EXACTLY! That's too funny. And, yes "nervous" is the perfect description for Stevie's demeanor! For instance, she was hella nervous during his speech at AHI 2000 when he asked her to stay there for a mintue and she just hid behind him with only her deer in headlights eyes peering over his shoulder...that wasn't for the show...

I don't know that the Sara hug was Stevie's doing though. It started out with her just walking off and then he actually began following her, kissing her arm as she walked away. It seemed as though she acquiesced to the hug to avoid him doing that. LOL.

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Ok, I found it. The hard "c" word I wanted to remember was cahoots.
http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph...v2&id=6519&c=9

This interview is from November 2006, so close to Redbeard.

Lindsey is just being devilish here because the two worse SnL things on the SYW tour were instigated by him. The Tusk Dance and Say Goodbye. I don't think Stevie was ever comfortable with the Tusk Dance. \

thanks for finding that.

so now you reminded me of the tusk dance... somebody recently posted a gif of his tusk dance somewhere in the lindsey forum - that part right after the slow dance when he goes completely nuts... and i can't remember in which thread it was and i can't find it now . nobody but lindsey can come up with such craziness . same with his monkey dance.

[redtulip]

somebody recently posted a gif of his tusk dance somewhere in the lindsey forum - that part right after the slow dance when he goes completely nuts... and i can't remember in which thread it was and i can't find it now .

Is this the post you are thinking of (scroll down)? It's in the Lindsey This or That thread.

[elle]

Originally Posted by redtulip

Is this the post you are thinking of (scroll down)? It's in the Lindsey This or That thread.

thanks for looking. i did find that one - his monkey dance before Stand Back.

but i couldn't find the one which is still a part of Tusk, right after he's done slow-dancing with stevie and he's walking/dancing away from her. doesn't seem to be in the photos or youtube threads, or in "this or that" one.

the gif i'm looking for contained just 5:14-5:20 of this video: