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[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by slipkid

TPO was the Green era Rumours, Kiln House was two confused guitarists with no direction, yet great Kirwan songs.

Agreed that TPO is a masterpiece of great guitar rock and blues. But I would disagree with you that Kiln House lacks direction. While it may be true that Spencer and Kirwan were scare ****less and/or ambivalent about carrying on without Green, the album they made is pretty damn amazing and coherent. It reminds me of the Stone's Exile on Mainstreet, or more accurately what the Stones wanted Exile to be. Spencer's tunes are amazing send ups and homages of sun city sounds, and yes, Kirwan's songs are excellent rock tunes.

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Agreed that TPO is a masterpiece of great guitar rock and blues. But I would disagree with you that Kiln House lacks direction. While it may be true that Spencer and Kirwan were scare ****less and/or ambivalent about carrying on without Green, the album they made is pretty damn amazing and coherent. It reminds me of the Stone's Exile on Mainstreet, or more accurately what the Stones wanted Exile to be. Spencer's tunes are amazing send ups and homages of sun city sounds, and yes, Kirwan's songs are excellent rock tunes.

Kiln House without Peter Green was forcing Jeremy Spencer to recreate songs from the 1950's. Spencer offers NOTHING original to Kiln House. Kirwan does offer original ideas, and they are great.

If Peter Green stayed with FM for say....ten more months post 5/1970, Fleetwood Mac would've been bigger than the Rumours band. If WB released the Boston Tea Party tapes as intended in late 1970, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Those Boston tapes would trump the Allmans in 1971.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Kiln House without Peter Green was forcing Jeremy Spencer to recreate songs from the 1950's. Spencer offers NOTHING original to Kiln House. Kirwan does offer original ideas, and they are great.

Jeremy may not have offered original concepts, but he did write four songs and made contributions to "Station Man". And, from what I've heard, those '50s parodies were the most popular part of Fleetwood Mac's set.

[becca]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Jeremy may not have offered original concepts, but he did write four songs and made contributions to "Station Man". And, from what I've heard, those '50s parodies were the most popular part of Fleetwood Mac's set.

Together One is something that really grew on me over time, it's almost Bee Gees lyrics with a country-folk expression. As lovely as anything by Fairport or The Byrds.

Mostly all we have are accounts of Jeremy in lame suit with Cliff or Harold or whatever they called it in his pocket. A genuine show stopper in it's time. It wasn't until I heard Elvis on the Madison Blues set where I really started to 'get' that at this remove, and it was hysterical. I often wonder what Phil Ochs might have thought as he was grapsing for something along those lines perhaps too about then. A lot of people were feeling lost around 1970, and looking back in various ways.