The Green Manalishi - Original version?

[Gibson]

New to the "thread" thing, so this has surely been asked before (forgive me).

Anyone know where I can buy or download the original version of the Green Manalishi that contains the screams of Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer for the last 60 seconds of the song. I've never fancied the excised version where these were removed along with some excellent Peter Green guitar pyrotechnics.

Gibson
CANADA

[vivfox]

Pull it off of youtube.

[dino]

It's on a number of compilations, like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bes..._Fleetwood_Mac

Or on this excellent box set:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/9zvr


Youtube...naw!

[Ms Moose]

Originally Posted by Gibson

New to the "thread" thing, so this has surely been asked before (forgive me).

Anyone know where I can buy or download the original version of the Green Manalishi that contains the screams of Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer for the last 60 seconds of the song. I've never fancied the excised version where these were removed along with some excellent Peter Green guitar pyrotechnics.

Gibson
CANADA

Wellcome on board, Gibson

Ms Moose

[jeremy spencer]

Originally Posted by Gibson

New to the "thread" thing, so this has surely been asked before (forgive me).

Anyone know where I can buy or download the original version of the Green Manalishi that contains the screams of Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer for the last 60 seconds of the song. I've never fancied the excised version where these were removed along with some excellent Peter Green guitar pyrotechnics.

Gibson
CANADA

Just fyi, it was only Peter screaming on that.

[Gibson]

Thank you for this information. Greatly appreciated. And I do stand corrected about Jeremy Spencer's role in that song. Looking back on my Green biography, it does quite clearly state that Spencer only helped Green set up the effect of the screams in a parking garage. But again, I welcome correction at any time. Not a great detail guy, just love the PG FM.

Regards.

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by Gibson

Thank you for this information. Greatly appreciated. And I do stand corrected about Jeremy Spencer's role in that song. Looking back on my Green biography, it does quite clearly state that Spencer only helped Green set up the effect of the screams in a parking garage. But again, I welcome correction at any time. Not a great detail guy, just love the PG FM.

Regards.

You are new so I should probably mention that the person who corrected you IS Jeremy Spencer

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by Gibson

I've never fancied the excised version where these were removed along with some excellent Peter Green guitar pyrotechnics.

Actually, I'm curious about the "excised" version you mentioned - I don't think I've ever heard any shortened version of the song. Where did you hear that one?

As dino mentioned, the full song is included on several compilations - here are two of them:
http://www.allmusic.com/song/the-gre...n-mt0004773800

And an mp3 is available on Amazon (I'm sure it's on iTunes as well):
http://www.amazon.com/Green-Manalish.../dp/B001F6NF5A

[GJK]

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000

Actually, I'm curious about the "excised" version you mentioned - I don't think I've ever heard any shortened version of the song. Where did you hear that one?

I don't know what is meant by 'excised' but this is what I know about 'different' versions.
Fleetwood Mac played TGM during live concerts in January, February and April 1970. Most (or all) of these versions feature a bass solo (by Peter?) and run about 15 minutes.

The 'original' studio version was recorded in mid-April 1970 and was released as a single in 1970 (with 'World in harmony' on the B-side). Its running time was 4:35.
First LP release of this 'original' version was on "The Best of Fleetwood Mac" (1976, Reprise 44138).
First CD release: "25 Years: The Chain" (1992), later also included on "The Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac" (2002).

However, on "The Vaudeville Years of Fleetwood Mac - 1968 to 1970" (1998), an 'unissued version' was released. This is the same version as the original one but without the 'screaming' and guitar overdubs. I think that Gibson is talking about this one as the 'excised' version.

By the way: the 1976 compilation "The Best of Fleetwood Mac" should be released on CD as this album features the ORIGINAL versions of 'World in harmony' and of the best songs FM ever made, 'The purple dancer'.
Both songs have never been released on CD!

GJK

[wetcamelfood]

Originally Posted by GJK

First LP release of this 'original' version was on "The Best of Fleetwood Mac" (1976, Reprise 44138).

Nope. CBS licensed it to put on their 1971 GH album:

http://discog.fleetwoodmac.net/discog.php?pid=160

...and this GH album was released on CD in the UK in 1990, therefore beating the Chain box as "1st on CD"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Greatest-Hit.../dp/B000006YPU

I agree though, that 76 Best of deal should at least be reissued on disc if nothing else (I mean, if they simply flat out refuse to use these as bonus tracks for remastered CD's etc.

John

[Wouter Vuijk]

Originally Posted by GJK

I don't know what is meant by 'excised' but this is what I know about 'different' versions.
However, on "The Vaudeville Years of Fleetwood Mac - 1968 to 1970" (1998), an 'unissued version' was released. This is the same version as the original one but without the 'screaming' and guitar overdubs. I think that Gibson is talking about this one as the 'excised' version.
GJK

Excised: English -> Nederlands: Weggesneden (cut out).
Screaming and guitar overdubs cut out (weggesneden).

[sharksfan2000]

Originally Posted by GJK

However, on "The Vaudeville Years of Fleetwood Mac - 1968 to 1970" (1998), an 'unissued version' was released. This is the same version as the original one but without the 'screaming' and guitar overdubs. I think that Gibson is talking about this one as the 'excised' version.

Aha, maybe you're right about that, GJK - I hadn't considered that version.

Originally Posted by GJK

By the way: the 1976 compilation "The Best of Fleetwood Mac" should be released on CD as this album features the ORIGINAL versions of 'World in harmony' and of the best songs FM ever made, 'The purple dancer'.
Both songs have never been released on CD!

I couldn't agree more! Or as John suggests, include them as bonus tracks. Maybe on a remastered "Then Play On", which is also sorely needed!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by GJK

The 'original' studio version was recorded in mid-April 1970 and was released as a single in 1970 (with 'World in harmony' on the B-side). Its running time was 4:35.
First LP release of this 'original' version was on "The Best of Fleetwood Mac" (1976, Reprise 44138).
First CD release: "25 Years: The Chain" (1992), later also included on "The Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac" (2002).

Actually, it was first issued on LP on the 1971 Greatest Hits album on CBS, which was reissued on CD in 1990.

[GJK]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Actually, it was first issued on LP on the 1971 Greatest Hits album on CBS, which was reissued on CD in 1990.

OK, I didn't realize that this compilation was THAT old. Anyway, I had checked my own copy and it doesn't have TGM on it. Turns out that my CD version 'Greatest Hits' is different from the 'original' one; mine contains songs from the first 3 albums, the first single and two Eddie Boyd songs. It has the same picture on front though...

Anyway, the 'excised' version is more or less the opposite of that...

GJK

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by GJK

OK, I didn't realize that this compilation was THAT old. Anyway, I had checked my own copy and it doesn't have TGM on it. Turns out that my CD version 'Greatest Hits' is different from the 'original' one; mine contains songs from the first 3 albums, the first single and two Eddie Boyd songs. It has the same picture on front though...

Anyway, the 'excised' version is more or less the opposite of that...

GJK

Yeah, that was a weird CD that was only in the USA, IIRC. Why they used the same cover is really odd. The Euro version was the same as the original.