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WalkAThinLine. 08-19-2023 02:48 PM

Time: Your favorite songs, grouped by singer
 
I'm only doing this because Mick Fleetwood can potentially receive votes.

HomerMcvie 08-19-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1287149)
I'm only doing this because Mick Fleetwood can potentially receive votes.

We need a poll on the quality of each member's character.

WalkAThinLine. 08-19-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287150)
We need a poll on the quality of each member's character.

Based on his very limited time in the band, Bob Brunning likely comes out on top.

SteveMacD 08-19-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1287149)
I'm only doing this because Mick Fleetwood can potentially receive votes.

Chaos accepted.

Villavic 08-21-2023 07:08 AM

I didn't post this poll cause I don't even remember non-Christine songs, so it wouldn't be fair. But since the poll is here, I voted for Christine. Well they say it's not a fair world :rolleyes:

WatchChain 08-22-2023 08:03 PM

Time.

The Fleetwood Mac album that I never had time to listen to.

moon 08-30-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1287288)
Time.

The Fleetwood Mac album that I never had time to listen to.

Hahahaha
You are losing a good one!

Of course my vote goes for Christine, as I like all her songs on this one

David 08-31-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by moon (Post 1287496)
Hahahaha
You are losing a good one!

Of course my vote goes for Christine, as I like all her songs on this one

There were many fans who never listened to Time because they just refused to — no Stevie, no time.

So 2018 rolls around and there’s Stevie singing this song with Christine, and what do those people all think? Imagine someone like Mike Bise — who wouldn’t have listened to Time if his life depended on it. He must have had no idea what Stevie and Chris were singing. They were probably doing frenzied lyric searches on their phones.

SteveMacD 08-31-2023 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1287548)
There were many fans who never listened to Time because they just refused to — no Stevie, no time.

So 2018 rolls around and there’s Stevie singing this song with Christine, and what do those people all think? Imagine someone like Mike Bise — who wouldn’t have listened to Time if his life depended on it. He must have had no idea what Stevie and Chris were singing. They were probably doing frenzied lyric searches on their phones.

EXACTLY why that tour was almost vindication. At least the initial concerts showed Fleetwood Mac was more than the five (or six) albums. Especially a song from Time.

Plus, that’s the third song from that album I got to see live.

WalkAThinLine. 08-31-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1287551)
EXACTLY why that tour was almost vindication. At least the initial concerts showed Fleetwood Mac was more than the five (or six) albums. Especially a song from Time.

Plus, that’s the third song from that album I got to see live.

Up until the 2018 tour, "Blow by Blow" and "Dreamin' the Dream" were the only songs the band played live. Both of these were played on the Another Link in the Chain tour, but "Blow By Blow" was the only one that was played on a regular basis. We obviously got "All Over Again" for the 2018 tour, but the band essentially pretended the album never existed for over 20 years.

aleuzzi 09-05-2023 10:49 PM

I chose Christine’s songs because they’re all well-crafted and effectively sung. Her voice was in really fine form at this time. I don’t dig the tinny keyboard, but even with that layer of sound, a song like Hollywood shines.

But I have to admit: two of the Billy tunes are really, really good: Talkin’ to My Heart and Got It In for You. He sounds better on Time than anywhere on Mask. I credit Bekka for being the right vocal partner…

HomerMcvie 09-05-2023 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1287721)
I chose Christine’s songs because they’re all well-crafted and effectively sung. Her voice was in really fine form at this time. I don’t dig the tinny keyboard, but even with that layer of sound, a song like Hollywood shines.

But I have to admit: two of the Billy tunes are really, really good: Talkin’ to My Heart and Got It In for You. He sounds better on Time than anywhere on Mask. I credit Bekka for being the right vocal partner…

Billy and Bekka sounded so good together. It's a shame the Time lineup never got more of a chance to shine.

aleuzzi 09-06-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287724)
Billy and Bekka sounded so good together. It's a shame the Time lineup never got more of a chance to shine.

They should have never hired Dave Mason. Time with Christine, Billy, and Bekka would have been unified and fresh. Mason’s songs and presence just confused things, left an absurd mark on the proceedings..

HomerMcvie 09-06-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1287730)
They should have never hired Dave Mason. Time with Christine, Billy, and Bekka would have been unified and fresh. Mason’s songs and presence just confused things, left an absurd mark on the proceedings..

Although I love Bekka's wailing vocals on Blow By Blow. At the end.... holy crap!

Penguin Emeritus 09-06-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1287730)
They should have never hired Dave Mason. Time with Christine, Billy, and Bekka would have been unified and fresh. Mason’s songs and presence just confused things, left an absurd mark on the proceedings..

I totally agree w all that. I couldn't see how Dave fit in there at all.

and Talkin to my Heart is such a great song...

--Lis

WalkAThinLine. 09-06-2023 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1287721)
I chose Christine’s songs because they’re all well-crafted and effectively sung. Her voice was in really fine form at this time. I don’t dig the tinny keyboard, but even with that layer of sound, a song like Hollywood shines.

But I have to admit: two of the Billy tunes are really, really good: Talkin’ to My Heart and Got It In for You. He sounds better on Time than anywhere on Mask. I credit Bekka for being the right vocal partner…

I found Billy's songs on Time to be a massive step down from his work on Behind the Mask. Country rock isn't a genre I really enjoy, and Time veers far too heavily in that territory. The cheesy synths actually have some charm, and I actually the raucous "Blow by Blow" more than most people.

I agree that McVie's voice was still in very fine form, and she delivered some very fine songs, with "I Do", "Nights in Estoril", and "All Over Again" being my favorites.

SteveMacD 09-06-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1287757)
I found Billy's songs on Time to be a massive step down from his work on Behind the Mask. Country rock isn't a genre I really enjoy, and Time veers far too heavily in that territory.

In fairness to Billy, those songs weren’t written for a Fleetwood Mac project. These were written when he was focused on his country solo career. Deborah Allen had already released her version of “Talkin’ To My Heart” in 1994. He was brought back in time for the tour.

That said, I wish he would have done a psychobilly song.

Mr Scarrott 09-08-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1287288)
Time.

The Fleetwood Mac album that I never had time to listen to.

Seriously? Not even Christine's songs?

HomerMcvie 09-08-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott (Post 1287841)
Seriously? Not even Christine's songs?

I like it as well as BTM, and better than SYW.

Mr Scarrott 09-08-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287843)
I like it as well as BTM, and better than SYW.

I really think there's only one real dud on Time- Blow by Blow and it's a pleasant, sunny, varied, listen. The title track aside, BTM is a toilet overflowing with turds.

There's enough angsty, occasionally experimental stuff on SYW maintain my interest 85% of the time and Stevie does at least bring some good songs to the project- I love her take on Smile at you- and John's bass work is great on that. Despite Christine's absence, I prefer it to Mirage and (just) Tango and I suspect I'm in a minority in that.

HomerMcvie 09-08-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott (Post 1287844)
I really think there's only one real dud on Time- Blow by Blow and it's a pleasant, sunny, varied, listen. The title track aside, BTM is a toilet overflowing with turds.

There's enough angsty, occasionally experimental stuff on SYW maintain my interest 85% of the time and Stevie does at least bring some good songs to the project- I love her take on Smile at you- and John's bass work is great on that. Despite Christine's absence, I prefer it to Mirage and (just) Tango and I suspect I'm in a minority in that.

Really, FM for me is White, Rumours, Tusk, Live, Mirage, and BuckVie. The rest of the Rumours output is mostly filler.

Villavic 09-08-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287849)
Really, FM for me is White, Rumours, Tusk, Live, Mirage, and BuckVie. The rest of the Rumours output is mostly filler.

I agree, except that against all odds I liked Behind the Mask, though obviously it's not on the same level as the mentioned albums. And except The Dance that I do love that album because of how I loved the reunion, though it was short. And then I closed my albums fandom.

I rescued only Christine songs from Time. And as WatchChain said in the Rumours forum, without Chris SYW became two solo albums loosely stitched together. So I said meh that year.

And then it appeared BuckVie in 2017, which though I did miss Stevie there, I love it.

HomerMcvie 09-08-2023 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1287851)
I agree, except that against all odds I liked Behind the Mask, though obviously it's not on the same level as the mentioned albums. And except The Dance that I do love that album because of how I loved the reunion, though it was short. And then I closed my albums fandom.

I rescued only Christine songs from Time. And as WatchChain said in the Rumours forum, without Chris SYW became two solo albums loosely stitched together. So I said meh that year.

And then it appeared BuckVie in 2017, which though I did miss Stevie there, I love it.

Oh, I can listen to the other stuff... but I don't live and breathe it, nor do I love it.

jbrownsjr 09-09-2023 01:58 PM

Mason was the new Dave Walker. :shocked:

HomerMcvie 09-09-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1287871)
Mason was the new Dave Walker. :shocked:

Did Christine hate Dave Walker, too?

WalkAThinLine. 09-09-2023 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287873)
Did Christine hate Dave Walker, too?

She may have resented Walker for hardly spending any time in the studio.

HomerMcvie 09-10-2023 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1287876)
She may have resented Walker for hardly spending any time in the studio.

No wonder she couldn't stand $tevie.

SteveMacD 09-10-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1287871)
Mason was the new Dave Walker. :shocked:

I don’t think Dave Walker was given a fair chance. I really like ”Look Around You” from Danny’s Midnight In San Juan album, which I assume was a song they did with Hungry Fighter.

HomerMcvie 09-10-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1287881)
I don’t think Dave Walker was given a fair chance. I really like ”Look Around You” from Danny’s Midnight In San Juan album, which I assume was a song they did with Hungry Fighter.

Nor was Bekka.

jmn3 09-10-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287878)
No wonder she couldn't stand $tevie.

Her best friend in the world?

SteveMacD 09-10-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1287891)
Nor was Bekka.

I love Bekka and the Bramletts in general. By 1993, there was only one Fleetwood Mac in the public eye. Peter Green could have rejoined and I doubt anyone would have cared. She was never getting a fair shot AND Mick and John were never going to completely change the band’s style to accommodate Bekka and Billy, so what was the point?

I wish/hope Mick reforms The Zoo will Bekka, Billy, and Todd. I think there’s unfinished business with them, and those three work well together.

HomerMcvie 09-10-2023 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1287898)
I love Bekka and the Bramletts in general. By 1993, there was only one Fleetwood Mac in the public eye. Peter Green could have rejoined and I doubt anyone would have cared. She was never getting a fair shot AND Mick and John were never going to completely change the band’s style to accommodate Bekka and Billy, so what was the point?

I wish/hope Mick reforms The Zoo will Bekka, Billy, and Todd. I think there’s unfinished business with them, and those three work well together.

Extremely valid point about Peter. 95% of people wouldn't have given af if he rejoined. WHO?

Yeah, yeah, you blues guitarists stfu. I'm not talking about you.

jbrownsjr 09-11-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1287898)
I love Bekka and the Bramletts in general. By 1993, there was only one Fleetwood Mac in the public eye. Peter Green could have rejoined and I doubt anyone would have cared. She was never getting a fair shot AND Mick and John were never going to completely change the band’s style to accommodate Bekka and Billy, so what was the point?

I wish/hope Mick reforms The Zoo will Bekka, Billy, and Todd. I think there’s unfinished business with them, and those three work well together.

God that's a great idea!!

mitzo 09-11-2023 08:27 PM

I really loved Bekka on this. Winds of Change and Dreaming the Dream. I also listened a lot to Christine's All Over Again.

jbrownsjr 09-12-2023 03:10 PM

Obviously, Christine's songs. But, I love Talkin to My Heart. My fav song with Sooner Or Later.

WalkAThinLine. 09-12-2023 09:22 PM

I'm surprised that "These Strange Times" hasn't been mentioned a lot here. Without Lucy Fleetwood's obnoxious whispering and the religious undertones, it would probably be one of the best songs on the album. But being one of the best songs on Time is like being one of the tallest kids in kindergarten. Half of the songs on this album are forgettable snoozers, particularly "Winds of Change" and "Dreamin' the Dream", which are some of the worst songs Fleetwood Mac has ever recorded. I'm aware that these are controversial takes.

HomerMcvie 09-13-2023 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1287967)
I'm surprised that "These Strange Times" hasn't been mentioned a lot here. Without Lucy Fleetwood's obnoxious whispering and the religious undertones, it would probably be one of the best songs on the album. But being one of the best songs on Time is like being one of the tallest kids in kindergarten. Half of the songs on this album are forgettable snoozers, particularly "Winds of Change" and "Dreamin' the Dream", which are some of the worst songs Fleetwood Mac has ever recorded. I'm aware that these are controversial takes.

Winds and Dreaming are two of my favorite songs on Time. So there...

Villavic 09-13-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1287967)
I'm surprised that "These Strange Times" hasn't been mentioned a lot here.

Even though I always said my interest in this album was mostly (if not exclusively) Christine songs, These Strange Times kind of intrigued me. And that's why I chose it for the Lyric Interpretation in the old The Ledge website (circa 1997). I think it didn't survived the current format, so it's not there anymore; but I do remember it didn't have many collaborations. Most people said they didn't know enough the song or have listiened very few times.

David 09-13-2023 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott (Post 1287844)
The title track aside, BTM is a toilet overflowing with turds.

Tell us how you really feel!

Mask has boring instrumentation. Strip the good vocals off the tracks, and you basically have a Toto or a Cruzados album. Greg Ladanyi engineered some good albums — Building the Perfect Beast, The Envoy — but this isn’t one of them. It’s really drudged-up, charmless MOR. It’s music for spending a day at the water park.

It might have been a little more interesting with the first choice of producers, Don Gehman? We’ll never know.

aleuzzi 09-13-2023 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1287979)
Tell us how you really feel!

Mask has boring instrumentation. Strip the good vocals off the tracks, and you basically have a Toto or a Cruzados album. Greg Ladanyi engineered some good albums — Building the Perfect Beast, The Envoy — but this isn’t one of them. It’s really drudged-up, charmless MOR. It’s music for spending a day at the water park.

It might have been a little more interesting with the first choice of producers, Don Gehman? We’ll never know.

If Patrick Leonard (“Love Shines,” “Heart of Stone”) it would have been A LOT better.


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