Article re: Buckingham open to return to FM

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Yeah I never understood that either. I don't remember, was Irving already managing Stevie when Lindsey came onboard? If so, that's insane that he thought that was a good idea. Maybe he thought it would be easier to navigate Fleetwood Mac projects if Irving managed both of them and it was all under one roof?

I can only conclude that the majority of conversations leading up to Lindsey moving over to Irving must have taken place with Irving's staff and not Irving himself. His staff must of blown a lot of smoke up his a** and somehow convinced him Irving was the right fit. What was Irving's angle!? It's pretty clear that Lindsey's solo work was never as commercial, what's in it for him? Complete business control over Fleetwood Mac I suppose.

Irving's been on Team Stevie since the early 80s... maybe even earlier. He was managing the Eagles (and others) back then and presumably that is how Stevie met him, but maybe somebody knows different.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Irving's been on Team Stevie since the early 80s... maybe even earlier. He was managing the Eagles (and others) back then and presumably that is how Stevie met him, but maybe somebody knows different.

Yes. According to Mick, it was just finishing the Tusk tour. Or at least it's when he learned about it:

Less than a month after the end of the Tusk tour, I realized I was in trouble with the rest of the band.

By this time, other managers began to enter the picture. John, Chris, and I were still with Mickey Shapiro, but Stevie had signed with the tough industry mogul Irving Azoff, who managed the Eagles at the time, to represent her with regard to her looming solo career. Lindsey was with somebody else.

The sh** hit the fan at a business meeting held to overview the Tusk tour with reference to the European leg. This turned into a vitriolic review of my behavior and management skills. The basic complaint, of course, was that we'd been on the road for eight months and hadn't made much money.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Yes. According to Mick, it was just finishing the Tusk tour. Or at least it's when he learned about it:

Less than a month after the end of the Tusk tour, I realized I was in trouble with the rest of the band.

By this time, other managers began to enter the picture. John, Chris, and I were still with Mickey Shapiro, but Stevie had signed with the tough industry mogul Irving Azoff, who managed the Eagles at the time, to represent her with regard to her looming solo career. Lindsey was with somebody else.

The sh** hit the fan at a business meeting held to overview the Tusk tour with reference to the European leg. This turned into a vitriolic review of my behavior and management skills. The basic complaint, of course, was that we'd been on the road for eight months and hadn't made much money.

I’ve always thought it was suspect that Mick glossed over that period- he used the excuses like putting grand pianos in hotel rooms, or repainting the rooms, etc. but we all know it was just as possible he was just as bad with the band money as he was with his own. Or maybe he was deliberately taking a little extra? And notice how he says the meeting was about his “behavior” as well as management skills, but never elaborated what those behaviors were.

Those would have the kind of details I’d love to read about.

[bombaysaffires]

And let's not forget Irving's official statement after Lindsey's interviews about his firing:

“While I understand it’s challenging for Lindsey to accept his own role in these matters and far easier for him to blame a manager, the fact remains that his actions alone are responsible for what transpired. Frankly, If I can be accused of anything, it’s perhaps holding things together longer than I should have. After 2018 when Fleetwood Mac evolved with their new lineup, my continued work with the band was due entirely to the fact I’ve been aligned with Stevie Nicks in thought and purpose from the earliest of days. While financial gain was not a motivator for me, it was a delightful bonus that the band scored their highest grossing tour ever, without Lindsey.”

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by Irving A$off

While financial gain was not a motivator for me, it was a delightful bonus that the band scored their highest grossing tour ever, without Lindsey.

Guy can't keep his story straight until the sentence has even ended.

[sleepless child]

Mick is trying to raise money for Hawaii. I wonder why he doesn't ask Lindsey to come and play with him at a benefit concert. That would be great

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

And let's not forget Irving's official statement after Lindsey's interviews about his firing:

“While I understand it’s challenging for Lindsey to accept his own role in these matters and far easier for him to blame a manager, the fact remains that his actions alone are responsible for what transpired. Frankly, If I can be accused of anything, it’s perhaps holding things together longer than I should have. After 2018 when Fleetwood Mac evolved with their new lineup, my continued work with the band was due entirely to the fact I’ve been aligned with Stevie Nicks in thought and purpose from the earliest of days. While financial gain was not a motivator for me, it was a delightful bonus that the band scored their highest grossing tour ever, without Lindsey.”

That's borderline cruel. It just is.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

That's borderline cruel. It just is.

Irving's an ass.

'Show me a manager that's made too many friends in this business, and I'll show you a manager that's sold out their artist" - Irving Azoff

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Irving's an ass.

'Show me a manager that's made too many friends in this business, and I'll show you a manager that's sold out their artist" - Irving Azoff

The guy has one of the most punchable faces. An absolutely miserable human being.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jmn3

The guy has one of the most punchable faces. An absolutely miserable human being.

So(not) ironic that he managed(s) Glenn Frey and Don Henley. Two of the most miserable people that ever breathed oxygen.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

That's borderline cruel. It just is.

Yeah, just speaks to how caring and concerned Irv must have been about Lindsey's solo career when he was managing him or how much he actually cared about Fleetwood Mac's career, other than how it benefitted Stevie.

Again, why Lindsey ever hired this man to be his manager is beyond me.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Yeah, just speaks to how caring and concerned Irv must have been about Lindsey's solo career when he was managing him or how much he actually cared about Fleetwood Mac's career, other than how it benefitted Stevie.

Again, why Lindsey ever hired this man to be his manager is beyond me.

Right? Irving was gonna make $50 off of Lindsey. Why would he mess with him?

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Right? Irving was gonna make $50 off of Lindsey. Why would he mess with him?

I just always assumed it was a way to consolidate his Fleetwood Mac power. When exactly did he become Lindsey’s manager anyway?