Danny Kirwan Discussion

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by slipkid

One of Kirwan's best songs was done early in Fleetwood Mac, "Without You". It used to be on the U.K. release of "Then Play On". In the states it was released on "English Rose", and later on "The Original Fleetwood Mac" remastered CD.

That song may contain Kirwan's most passionate guitar solo. He was doing an excellent "Love That Burns" imitation of Peter Green. I like all the ones chiliD mentioned, but this song deserves a mention.

I like every single song he recorded, but I'd agree that his peak was probably '71-'72. "Hello There Big Boy" might be my least favourite album, but the reasons for its shortcomings are pretty clear. That said, "Spaceman" and "Caroline" are awesome.

I sometimes wonder what the "Second Chapter" songs would have been like if Danny had stayed with Fleetwood Mac. The follow-up to "Bare Trees" might well have included songs like "Cascades" and "Silver Streams", as they were written around the time he left, or soon afterwards.

Having just seen the above post, here's a handy list of the songs he either wrote, co-wrote or sang on while with Fleetwood Mac If I've forgotten any, I'm sure ChiliD or someone equally switched-on can fill in the gaps.

ALTHOUGH THE SUN IS SHINING - Then Play On
BARE TREES - Bare Trees
BLUES WITH A FEELING - Live at the BBC
CHILD OF MINE - Bare Trees
COMING YOUR WAY - Then Play On
DANNY’S CHANT - Bare Trees
DOWN AT THE CROWN - Madison Blues Demo
DRAGONFLY - Single
DUST - Bare Trees
EARL GRAY - Kiln House
EARLY MORNING COME - Live at the BBC
ENCORE JAM - Live in Boston
FAREWELL - Vaudeville Years (demo of Earl Gray)
JEWEL EYED JUDY - Kiln House
JIGSAW PUZZLE BLUES - B-side
LIKE CRYING - Then Play On
LIKE IT THIS WAY - Blues Jam at Chess etc
LOVE IT SEEMS - Vaudeville Years
LOVING KIND - Live in Boston etc
MIND OF MY OWN - Show-Biz Blues
MY DREAM - Then Play On
OCTOBER JAM 1 & 2 - Vaudeville Years jams
ONE-SIDED LOVE - Live bootlegs
ONE SUNNY DAY - Then Play On / English Rose
ON WE JAM - Live in Boston
ONLY YOU - Live at the BBC
OPEN THE DOOR - Madison Blues (live)
SANDS OF TIME - Future Games
SOMETHING INSIDE OF ME - English Rose
SOMETIMES - Future Games
STATION MAN - Kiln House
SUNNY SIDE OF HEAVEN - Bare Trees
TALK WITH YOU - Blues Jam at Chess etc
TELL ME ALL THE THINGS YOU DO - Kiln House
TELL ME FROM THE START - Vaudeville Years
THE MADGE SESSIONS 1 & 2 - Vaudeville Years jams
THE PURPLE DANCER - B-side of Dragonfly
TRINITY - Bare Trees outtake / 25 Years- The Chain box set
WHAT A SHAME - Future Games
WHEN I SEE MY BABY - Live at the BBC
WHEN YOU SAY - Then Play On
WITHOUT YOU - English Rose / Then Play On
WOMAN OF 1000 YEARS - Future Games
WORLD IN HARMONY - B-side etc
WORLD’S IN A TANGLE - Blues Jam at Chess

This doesn't include of course all the songs written by others where Danny is soloing - I love his work on Christine's "Show Me a Smile" for instance, "Homeward Bound", "Spare Me a Little" etc.

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

I like every single song he recorded, but I'd agree that his peak was probably '71-'72. "Hello There Big Boy" might be my least favourite album, but the reasons for its shortcomings are pretty clear. That said, "Spaceman" and "Caroline" are awesome.

I sometimes wonder what the "Second Chapter" songs would have been like if Danny had stayed with Fleetwood Mac. The follow-up to "Bare Trees" might well have included songs like "Cascades" and "Silver Streams", as they were written around the time he left, or soon afterwards.

Having just seen the above post, here's a handy list of the songs he either wrote, co-wrote or sang on while with Fleetwood Mac If I've forgotten any, I'm sure ChiliD or someone equally switched-on can fill in the gaps.

ALTHOUGH THE SUN IS SHINING - Then Play On
BARE TREES - Bare Trees
BLUES WITH A FEELING - Live at the BBC
CHILD OF MINE - Bare Trees
COMING YOUR WAY - Then Play On
DANNY’S CHANT - Bare Trees
DOWN AT THE CROWN - Madison Blues Demo
DRAGONFLY - Single
DUST - Bare Trees
EARL GRAY - Kiln House
EARLY MORNING COME - Live at the BBC
FAREWELL - Vaudeville Years (demo of Earl Gray)
JEWEL EYED JUDY - Kiln House
JIGSAW PUZZLE BLUES - B-side
LIKE CRYING - Then Play On
LIKE IT THIS WAY - Blues Jam at Chess etc
LOVE IT SEEMS - Vaudeville Years
LOVING KIND - Live in Boston etc
MIND OF MY OWN - Show-Biz Blues
MY DREAM - Then Play On
OCTOBER JAM 1 & 2 - Vaudeville Years jams
ONE-SIDED LOVE - Live bootlegs
ONE SUNNY DAY - Then Play On / English Rose
ONLY YOU - Live at the BBC
OPEN THE DOOR - Madison Blues (live)
SANDS OF TIME - Future Games
SOMETHING INSIDE OF ME - English Rose
STATION MAN - Kiln House
SUNNY SIDE OF HEAVEN - Bare Trees
TALK WITH YOU - Blues Jam at Chess etc
TELL ME ALL THE THINGS YOU DO - Kiln House
TELL ME FROM THE START - Vaudeville Years
THE MADGE SESSIONS 1 & 2 - Vaudeville Years jams
THE PURPLE DANCER - B-side of Dragonfly
TRINITY - Bare Trees outtake / 25 Years- The Chain box set
WHAT A SHAME - Future Games
WHEN I SEE MY BABY - Live at the BBC
WHEN YOU SAY - Then Play On
WITHOUT YOU - English Rose / Then Play On
WOMAN OF 1000 YEARS - Future Games
WORLD IN HARMONY - B-side etc
WORLD’S IN A TANGLE - Blues Jam at Chess

This doesn't include of course all the songs written by others where Danny is soloing - I love his work on Christine's "Show Me a Smile" for instance, "Homeward Bound", "Spare Me a Little" etc.

Well the only one I can think of is "Sometimes" from Future Games which I would think is just a typing error of omission on your part. He was also given writing credit on Encore Jam and On We Jam from the Live In Boston albums.

The only one I don't recognise/have from the above list is "One-Sided Love" so shall have to try and find it There are probably a few other bootlegs floating around too I would imagine?

[bretonbanquet]

^^^

Ooops, thanks for that - I knew I'd forget at least one. I've added those three to the list to make it complete-r

One-Sided Love is on the "Roughage" bootleg, which somone might post here if they're able to. It's a slow one, a typical Danny number which reminds me a little of "Without You". Not as good though.

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

The only one I don't recognise/have from the above list is "One-Sided Love" so shall have to try and find it There are probably a few other bootlegs floating around too I would imagine?

Seek out "Fleetwood Mac Live in Amsterdam 1969".

[chriskisn]

Just went and ripped One-Sided Love off of a YouTube video so am listening to it as I write.

Yeah naughty I know but...

[Wouter Vuijk]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Seek out "Fleetwood Mac Live in Amsterdam 1969".

The Den Haag version, played a few hours earlier, was better IMO

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

The Den Haag version, played a few hours earlier, was better IMO

Well this is a discovery for me. I'm not sure if the Den Haag version of "One Sided Love" is better, but Freddie King's "San Ho Zay"!?!? That's a pure blues rhythm lockdown, Fleetwood and McVie are Al Jackson Jr., and Donald Duck Dunn! I wish Peter's guitar was as loud as Danny's, because I could tell he was ripping a monster solo. Are there better sounding boots of this song available?



Then there's "Blue Suede Shoes". If this version was performed in the states, the entire band would've been deported within 24 hours. Rap artists were arrested over much less twenty years ago. Jeremy Spencer, you were a true trailblazer!

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Then there's "Blue Suede Shoes". If this version was performed in the states, the entire band would've been deported within 24 hours. Rap artists were arrested over much less twenty years ago. Jeremy Spencer, you were a true trailblazer!

Actually I only heard this song last night for the first time, but it made me think of what Mick said in his book about Harold the dildo (I think that was its name?) and how Jeremy used to stick it out of his fly when on stage. I could almost imagine him strutting around the stage with it and waving it at the crowd during that song.

[aleuzzi]

I love so much of Kirwan's FM work.

It's tough to say which two or three songs I like best because he developed dramatically in the four years with the band. I'll list my favorites by periods:

1968-69:

Something Inside of Me
Like It This Way
Without You

1969-70:

Only You (at BBC live)
When I See My Baby (at BBC Live)
Station Man
Tell Me...

1971-72:
Dragonfly
Sometimes
Trinity (still don't know why this wasn't included on Bare Trees!)
Dust

[Wouter Vuijk]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

The only one I don't recognise/have from the above list is "One-Sided Love" so shall have to try and find it There are probably a few other bootlegs floating around too I would imagine?

Here are (among others) two versions of One Sided Love:
http://rapidshare.com/files/29426332...28_Holland.zip

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk

Here are (among others) two versions of One Sided Love:
http://rapidshare.com/files/29426332...28_Holland.zip

Brilliant Wouter thank you

[ejb1969]

My favorites of Danny's songs are:

1. Station Man
2. Purple Dancer
3. Jewel Eyed Judy