Hell has frozen over......A "SAY YOU WILL" DOCUMENTARY!!! - Page 4

madformac · #46 12-10-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by misterbug

By the way, am I the ONLY MJ supporter here??

Probably not. But this is a Fleetwood Mac forum and not a Michael Jackson one..

But, as this thread seems to be continuing, I will say as far as I'm concerned Jackson is an amazing dancer and probably the best single entertainer in history..

However, I'm not going to believe one way or another rumours over his private life until something is proven as fact one way or the other. For him to be charged and bailed seems to indicate there is more to this story than we yet know.. Everything will be revealed in the courtroom in due time, I'm sure.

I will also say that when I saw him trying to feed his baby on the Bashir documentary, with the veil over the baby and his erratic behaviour, violently rocking the baby with his leg and forcing the bottle in it's mouth. That is factual and I knew then he seems to have some mental issues and I would be seriously concerned with his parenting skills, .

End of my input. Back to Say You Will...

misterbug · #47 12-10-2003, 07:25 PM

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I believe people should be upheld as innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. I bet Stevie and Lindsey would be horrified! Isnt she a friend of MJ?

Yes I think she is.

I also agree that people should be portrayed (e.g. by the media) as innocent until conclusively proven guilty.

But "Being guilty is just good business" right? (There. I worked a SYW reference into my posts).

jmn3 · #48 12-11-2003, 12:04 AM

Jackson sleeps with children who aren't his own. That is a fact and it's all I will say. I have my opinions and I imagine anyone can draw their own opinion from what I said.

Even scarier is the parents of these children. What the HELL is wrong with ALL of these parents??!??!!?!? They should have their children taken from them and be castrated. That would be the day I'd let my kids (okay okay, if I had kids yet) go and stay at anyone's house knowing that they SLEPT in a bed with an adult!!!! I think I recall sleeping with my PARENT'S only during the occasional bad thunder storm or bad dream. Never anybody else's parents, or any other adult for that matter. What is wrong with people?

goldustboi · #49 12-11-2003, 05:57 AM

Hey misterbug....

im a massive MJ fan, im so glad there are are other people willing to defend him aswell, iv had a couple of similar heated discussions with certain members of this board in the past about MJ, not that there's much point coz people in general would rather believe the national enquirer than the man himself. Il bet most people dont know that the case going on at the mo is full of holes and inconsistencies (as far as the prosecustion is concerned) and it may not even make it to the courtroom!

One more thing, it baffles me the way some people who love to portray themselves as intelligent (yes you Carne) insist that MJ admitted sleeping in the same bed as that kid, when in actual fact, if you watch the living with MJ doc, MJ quite clearly states that he slept in the bed and MJ slept on the floor.

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #50 12-11-2003, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by thehighwayman
I believe people should be upheld as innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. I bet Stevie and Lindsey would be horrified! Isnt she a friend of MJ?

Stevie is a friend of Michael Jacksons? Since when??

Pip

strandinthewind · #51 12-11-2003, 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Stevie is a friend of Michael Jacksons? Since when??

Pip

I remember reading she went to his B-Day party at Disneyland about 10 years ago. But, I could be wrong and am too lazy to research

dissention · #52 12-11-2003, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by misterbug
THIS JUST IN:

An official government document was leaked in which the boy accusing MJ attested in feb that MJ had done nothing inappropriate.

If you are a member of AOL: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...0105409990001.

Yes, but it was also leaked that an employee of Jacko's was there while they spoke to the boy and his family.

Also, the boy's brother is being called as a witness to one occasion of abuse.

dissention · #53 12-11-2003, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by misterbug
So who do YOU believe? The couple of kids who allege molestation--kids whose parents are suspect (e.g. in the latest allegations, the parents have sued multiple times before--including one time alleging a JC Penney guard molested that same boy--I just find it extremely difficult to believe that if these allegations were true they would let their son sleepover with MJ!!! Or that the boy himself would sleeover with MJ if he was really sexually assaulted. And if those allegations are false, as I suspect they are, then what does that do to the credibility of the current suit?). Or do you believe the countless children (who far outnumber the accusing children) who love and support MJ and call him their friend?

I believe the few boys that alleged it. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And please get your facts right! It wasn't the boy who accused a security guard of sexual improprieties, it was the mother who claimed that he assaulted HER. And I fail to see how that has any bearing on her son getting molested.

dissention · #54 12-11-2003, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Stevie is a friend of Michael Jacksons? Since when??

Pip

Since never, from what I read. I read an article years ago where she said something to the effect that he needs some help. But I wouldn't know where to look for it.

Anyone else read it?

dissention · #55 12-11-2003, 10:28 AM

Oh, and I forgot to mention the love letters to Rubba that were found during the search and the hidden room full of unmarked videotapes.

CarneVaca · #56 12-11-2003, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by misterbug
Well I can't say that I am surprised by some of these reactions, they are all too typical of the ill-informed, assumption-making
American.

Furthermore, the accuser's description of MJ's genitalia DID NOT match MJ's genitalia.

You obvioulsy are more familiar with matters pertaining to Michael Jacksons' genitalia than I. Thank God. Your defense of this monster is worthy of no further reply from me, Mr. well-informed rational American. If only you would put so much of your energies into things that matter rather than defending one of humanity's most pathetic specimen.

CarneVaca · #57 12-11-2003, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by goldustboi
it baffles me the way some people who love to portray themselves as intelligent (yes you Carne)

Thanks for the clarification, goldustboi.

dissention · #58 12-11-2003, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by goldustboi
it baffles me the way some people who love to portray themselves as intelligent...

...don't have good grammar skills.

It baffles me how anyone can think he ISN'T ill.

gldstwmn · #59 12-11-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
Oh, and I forgot to mention the love letters to Rubba that were found during the search and the hidden room full of unmarked videotapes.

There was also a report on MSNBC last night that said there was pornography found. It didn't specifically say what kind.

dissention · #60 12-11-2003, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
There was also a report on MSNBC last night that said there was pornography found. It didn't specifically say what kind.

Porn? From a person who claims he isn't sexual?! SHAMEFUL!!!

I like to call myself a second-hand expert on the Jacko case (I follow it religiously because I want justice for his victims!!!), but this is shocking, Goldie! Hopefully he didn't take any pointers from R Kelly.

If the porn is of anything significant, my girl Diane Dimond will let us know.