2008 Tour ????

[Matthew]

Originally Posted by chiliD

You KNOW I'm just yankin' chains, right?



Have you HEARD their versions from the 1987/88 & 1990 tours? It kicks ass!

Do you have it? I have never heard this version and I think that it would be my favourite version. I love The Chain from Tango Video, GYOW must be great too!!

Please upload it somewhere.

[jbrownsjr]

I kind of like the set list.... regardless of who it pisses off!

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by Chrislit18

too many Stevie solo though.

Not at all. You've got to see the Eagles' setlist. Don does about four solo songs. Joe does a solo song and a couple from James gang. Glenn does one or two.

[chiliD]

Jools, kudos for including "Walk Another Mile, "Got No Home" & "Intuition". But, I think you should've spread them out a bit...three Rick tunes in a row is a bit much, even for me.

Originally Posted by Chrislit18

...too many Stevie solo though.

I counted one. "Rooms On Fire" (since "Stand Back" is now a Fleetwood Mac song, since it appeared on a Fleetwood Mac album)

Even if you count "Stand Back", that's two. And, who's to say he wasn't referring to the Allman Brothers' song and not the Stevie Nicks song.

[Chrislit18]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Even if you count "Stand Back", that's two. And, who's to say he wasn't referring to the Allman Brothers' song and not the Stevie Nicks song.

that made me lol



Im just saying, If I were to go see this lineup, Id rather have Rick/Billy songs that I have NEVER heard [Ive declared myself a pure Rumours line up fan, but Im not totaly against branching out...].

And Im Not saying that thier version of GOYW sucks, just its LBs sig song, Like Rhiannon is Stevies, and YMLF is Chris'. It just seems like that those songs are reserved for those people. thats JMO though.

[xdreamsunwindx]

It's been, what, 3 weeks without a dream setlist/lineup thread? Thank god, I was starting to worry.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by xdreamsunwindx

It's been, what, 3 weeks without a dream setlist/lineup thread? Thank god, I was starting to worry.

seriously, i hate these.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Chrislit18

Im just saying, If I were to go see this lineup, Id rather have Rick/Billy songs that I have NEVER heard [Ive declared myself a pure Rumours line up fan, but Im not totaly against branching out...].

And Im Not saying that thier version of GOYW sucks, just its LBs sig song, Like Rhiannon is Stevies, and YMLF is Chris'. It just seems like that those songs are reserved for those people. thats JMO though.

So what if it's LB's "sig song". So was "Oh Well" Peter Green's, but it was played during every tour after Peter Green left (until The Dance, that is...hasn't been done since...now THAT's a crime!). Even Lindsey did Bob Welch's "Hypnotized" and that's Welch's "sig song". It's just Fleetwood Mac's tradition that whoever joins the band pays their dues by singing songs of previous members. Hence Bekka singing both "YMLF" and "Gold Dust Woman" (and "Dreams", and "Say You Love Me"). And, those tunes are FLEETWOOD MAC tunes, not solo "sig songs".

I think that's where the coinciding solo careers hurt the parent band. People start getting confused over what's a band song & what's a solo song. (same thing happened in the latter day version of Genesis with Phil Collins, too)

Sure, I would've liked to have heard more from Rick & Billy, too, on the two tours they were together. And, during the '94/95 tour, I would've liked them to have done their own thing instead of relying so much on the Rumours and Dave Mason material. Had they just come out & packed the set with NEW material and mixed in a couple of Rumours tunes (and "Oh Well") and maybe one or two Dave Mason solo hits, I think that lineup would've gotten more respect. That is kind of the formula in what they did in '75...played a few Fleetwood Mac "oldies", added a couple of Buckingham Nicks tunes, and the rest of the set was their latest material and there you have it.

[Chrislit18]

Originally Posted by chiliD

I think that's where the coinciding solo careers hurt the parent band. People start getting confused over what's a band song & what's a solo song. (same thing happened in the latter day version of Genesis with Phil Collins, too)

Sure, I would've liked to have heard more from Rick & Billy, too, on the two tours they were together. And, during the '94/95 tour, I would've liked them to have done their own thing instead of relying so much on the Rumours and Dave Mason material. Had they just come out & packed the set with NEW material and mixed in a couple of Rumours tunes (and "Oh Well") and maybe one or two Dave Mason solo hits, I think that lineup would've gotten more respect. That is kind of the formula in what they did in '75...played a few Fleetwood Mac "oldies", added a couple of Buckingham Nicks tunes, and the rest of the set was their latest material and there you have it.

I do completely agree with you about the solo carrers hurting the band as a whole. and Im saying this with much respect, but its mostly Stevies problem. Shes the one who kept putting out records, and touring [sure, Chris had 1 record and toured had a hit, and a minor hit, big deal, and Linds put out 2 records, has a couple of hits, but never toured.] Stevie had some BIG solo hits while with FM, and toured for EVERY album. that hurt the spectre of FM.
But I guess that was a good thing for all post rumours fans , while not being one myself [TBT, Im only on this board for this post, I wanted to see what was said.] I still respect the element the band was. More BTM than Time, but still.

I love how on the Tango/BTM tour they did Isnt It Midnight, and almost completely redid it from the Tango version, I still like the album version more, but the tour version is good too.

and to tell the truth, thats one thing I dont like about the Mac, is they rely on the Rumours stuff SO MUCH! They have SOOO many other good songs from the albums after Rumours [ie Tusk, Mirage, and Tango...and Im sure theres some good songs on BTM, and at least Chris' songs must be alright on Time], but they play between 6-9 songs off of Rumours alone! assured its thier 'best' album, and the one that theyre most known for, but look at all the hidden jems off of Tusk, and even Tango. Mick should have said on the BTM/Time tours 'while keeping the spirit of FM alive, we need to move on from those days, and start fresh, With a whole new setlist!!'

Thats JMO....

PS-I love the original version of 'Oh Well' probably more than Linds' version of it. And Rick/Billys version of it was closer to Peters than the Rumours lineups was. I am giving them credit where it is due, Im not trying to bash them. just stating that I dont like what they did with certain songs....such as GOYW.

[David]

Originally Posted by jools

Band Lineup

Mick Fleetwood, John McVie. Christime Mcvie, Rick Vito, Billy Burnette & Stevie Nicks

The Set list i would like to see ( in no particular order)
(snip list)

I saw that lineup play in 1990. They did a bunch of these songs already. The ones I did like (going from memory) were:

1. In The Back Of My Mind
2. Seven Wonders
3. I Loved Another Woman
4. Go Your Own Way
5. Tear It Up

So we can leave those in. But I didn't like these:

1. The Chain
2. You Make Loving Fun
3. Little Lies
4. Gold Dust Woman
5. Dreams
6. Don't Stop
7. Stand Back

So I throw those out. Some of the others might sound really good with this lineup:

1. All Over Again
2. Sentimental Lady
3. Skies The Limit
4. Behind The Mask

I would have no back up musicians and only a couple of backing singers.

That's fine, except check out my plan below.

I think a bunch of secret members of Fleetwood Mac should join & go out on the road. Given the fact that there are all these lineups with different levels of acceptance & popularity, all current members should put a paper bag over their heads so that you can't tell who is who. Next, have a CD player play the song (or have the backup army play it) & the "stars" out front will mimic it. Thus, if there is big applause for one guy with a bag over his head, the announcer can announce, "That was STEVIE NICKS! (or PETER GREEN)"

If the applause was for Billy Burnette or Christine McVie (medium applause), the announcer introduces "them," & so on & so forth.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by David

I think a bunch of secret members of Fleetwood Mac should join & go out on the road. Given the fact that there are all these lineups with different levels of acceptance & popularity, all current members should put a paper bag over their heads so that you can't tell who is who. Next, have a CD player play the song (or have the backup army play it) & the "stars" out front will mimic it. Thus, if there is big applause for one guy with a bag over his head, the announcer can announce, "That was STEVIE NICKS! (or PETER GREEN)"

If the applause was for Billy Burnette or Christine McVie (medium applause), the announcer introduces "them," & so on & so forth.

Basically, you're promoting John & Yoko's concept of "Bagism".