The Buckingham McVie album! Out June 9th, 2017!!!

[Roxy]

I really hope it's like TITN, just with less of a dated sound.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

How is it not an experiment if it's never happened before?

It HAS been done before.

Then Play On didn't have any songs featuring Jeremy Spencer, who was one of the frontmen at the time.

Christine has fronted the band with only one other vocalist, Bob Welch.

Lindsey has fronted the band with only one other vocalist, Stevie Nicks. THAT was a weirder use of the Fleetwood Mac name since they had a prior band called Buckingham Nicks.

Lindsey and Christine co-fronted Fleetwood Mac together on five albums.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

How is it an experiment?

"Working with them are two familiar names: Mick Fleetwood, whose towering drum kit is in the next room, and bassist John McVie."

How is this any different from Heroes Are Hard To Find or Say You Will? If anything, this is what Mick though he would be getting on New Year's Eve, 1974.

The experiment is that both Fleetwood and Mac are present, yet it's not called Fleetwood Mac. Although it's certainly possible, I don't necessarily see the name Fleetwood Mac being omitted due to a committee of managers and lawyers. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the natural consensus of the musicians involved. John especially is a pretty pragmatic guy. Plus, if there is to be a tour behind this album, are Mick and John guaranteed to be involved? I am also curious, will every bass or percussion note on the album be played by John and Mick? I have my doubts. With a name like Buckingham McVie, these seem like legitimate questions.

[Macfan4life]

You know this is just driving Stevie crazy. For her to know Lindsey is enjoying making new music with Christine is driving her up a wall.
I wonder what she will do when they play the songs live (if they do).
I see this only escalating the drama in the band with Stevie and Lindsey which is unfortunate.

[FuzzyPlum]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

...if there is to be a tour behind this album, are Mick and John guaranteed to be involved? I am also curious, will every bass or percussion note on the album be played by John and Mick? I have my doubts. With a name like Buckingham McVie, these seem like legitimate questions.

I think it'd be as good as certain Mick would be on the/a tour. John not so certain but still pretty likely. If, as the article suggests Mick and John were involved in the studio with Chris and Lindsey as recently as December I'd guess they are raring to go. If they are all signed on for a world tour with Stevie later in the year, why wouldn't they also do a Buckingham-McVie tour if they were on the album? They've had an input in this music for several years- they are also emotionally involved in the music.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

The experiment is that both Fleetwood and Mac are present, yet it's not called Fleetwood Mac. Although it's certainly possible, I don't necessarily see the name Fleetwood Mac being omitted due to a committee of managers and lawyers. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the natural consensus of the musicians involved. John especially is a pretty pragmatic guy. Plus, if there is to be a tour behind this album, are Mick and John guaranteed to be involved? I am also curious, will every bass or percussion note on the album be played by John and Mick? I have my doubts. With a name like Buckingham McVie, these seem like legitimate questions.

Don't kid yourself, there were lots of discussions on how to release the album, because they recorded it with every intention of it being released as Fleetwood Mac. Even though they only casually mention the involvement of Mick and John deep into the story, they DID go out of their way to mention THEM and not others. If there were others involved, and they're trying to contrast this with Fleetwood Mac, wouldn't that have been the best time to do that?

I think they held out hope that Stevie might come around the closer they got to finishing the album. After it was clear that wasn't the case, they went with the option that keeps Stevie in Fleetwood Mac and are now going out of their way to call it a duet album so as not to alienate her.

[lennonfan]

I hope this is true! When you think about it, Mac just really wanted Lindsey in the beginning, which would have kept them as a 4 piece as they were with Bob Welch. I've always loved the way Chris and Linds worked together, I can totally see a joint project being super. Chris has total confidence in the material, and I believe her.

I think they could do it for the art, not for the sales.

[Macfan4life]

I love the idea but I firmly believe if you are a REAL member of this band you don't sign up for big bucks for a tour but also be a part of the creative process of the band for new material. I know Stevie signed up for the tour but I feel that if she does not contribute to the new album than she should not be allowed to tour. The band (mostly Lindsey) turned down Christine with this same offer. It was reported during the 2013 European tour that Christine floated the idea of joining the band for the tour only. Lindsey pretty much said you are IN OR OUT. You cant have it both ways and come and go as you please (i.e. touring in Europe but not the USA). I think everyone should be treated the same. We all know that Stevie is a huge draw and it will never happen but its just my opinion

[Fannymac]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I love the idea but I firmly believe if you are a REAL member of this band you don't sign up for big bucks for a tour but also be a part of the creative process of the band for new material. I know Stevie signed up for the tour but I feel that if she does not contribute to the new album than she should not be allowed to tour. The band (mostly Lindsey) turned down Christine with this same offer. It was reported during the 2013 European tour that Christine floated the idea of joining the band for the tour only. Lindsey pretty much said you are IN OR OUT. You cant have it both ways and come and go as you please (i.e. touring in Europe but not the USA). I think everyone should be treated the same. We all know that Stevie is a huge draw and it will never happen but its just my opinion

Have to agree with you.....they were fine with continuing on, and putting out new music, without Lindsey and Christine, but they can't/won't do the same without Stevie? If the four of them are on all the tracks, then it IS a Fleetwood Mac album!
It's almost like they're playing it safe, and keeping the door open, just in case....but, sadly, I think that ship has sailed!!

[bombaysaffires]

Why does his name always come first when he's partnered with a woman?? Hmmmm????

(I'm not buying an "alphabetical order" rationale)

[tabruns]

I think you have it backwards. McVie floated the idea of *recording* with Mac but NOT touring, and that was nixed by the group.

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I love the idea but I firmly believe if you are a REAL member of this band you don't sign up for big bucks for a tour but also be a part of the creative process of the band for new material. I know Stevie signed up for the tour but I feel that if she does not contribute to the new album than she should not be allowed to tour. The band (mostly Lindsey) turned down Christine with this same offer. It was reported during the 2013 European tour that Christine floated the idea of joining the band for the tour only. Lindsey pretty much said you are IN OR OUT. You cant have it both ways and come and go as you please (i.e. touring in Europe but not the USA). I think everyone should be treated the same. We all know that Stevie is a huge draw and it will never happen but its just my opinion

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by tabruns

I think you have it backwards. McVie floated the idea of *recording* with Mac but NOT touring, and that was nixed by the group.

And, they said no . . .

Too bad that doesn't work the other way around.

[elle]

Originally Posted by lennonfan

Just saw this with a couple great pics...so they're calling it Buckingham McVie? I kinda like it!http://www.latimes.com/la-et-ms-vill...htmlstory.html

didn't go through the whole thread yet, i'm assuming somebody posted the whole LA Times article, so here's Classic Rock offshoot of it, mentioning May release -

Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie Are Working on a Duet Album
By Nick DeRiso January 13, 2017 12:04 PM

Kevin Winter / Noam Galai, Getty Images

Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie have decided to make their first-ever duet project, having apparently tired of waiting for Stevie Nicks to join sessions for a new Fleetwood Mac album. Fellow bandmates Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are also sitting in, the Los Angeles Times reports.

The upcoming studio effort is tentatively titled Buckingham McVie; it could be out as soon as May. “You know, a better thing’s never happened to me,” a clearly enthused McVie told the Times. “We’ve always written well together, Lindsey and I, and this has just spiraled into something really amazing that we’ve done between us.”

Initial writing sessions for a new Fleetwood Mac album began nearly three years ago, not long after McVie returned following a lengthy retirement. Back then, the band was hoping to release their first studio project with Buckingham, Nicks and McVie since 1987’s Tango in the Night sometime in the summer of 2015. But Nicks, who is about to resume an ongoing tour with the Pretenders, has remained occupied.

In the meantime, it seemed something clicked. “Because of Stevie’s absence, there’s been a very strong link musically between Lindsey and I, where we’ve actually been able to concentrate and co-write,” McVie told the Huffington Post back in 2014. She said even those early collaborations produced “some fantastic, quite profound, quite surprising emotions. … It knocked my socks off completely.”

They’re at work back inside Village Studios, site of the sessions for Fleetwood Mac’s 1979 double album Tusk. In fact, the band helped design the studio’s wood-paneled recording suite. “It feels like coming home,” McVie added.
The musical interplay between Buckingham and McVie played a signature role in songs like “Think About Me” from Tusk, as well as “Don’t Stop” from 1977’s Rumours and “Hold Me” from 1982’s Mirage. Over the years, they co-wrote “World Turning” from 1975’s Fleetwood Mac and a trio of songs from Tango in the Night.

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[elle]

Originally Posted by lennonfan

Just saw this with a couple great pics...so they're calling it Buckingham McVie? I kinda like it!http://www.latimes.com/la-et-ms-vill...htmlstory.html

thanks! i didn't realize your link is also to Village Recorder article.

all i have to say is - FINALLY.

here's the other article, on Buck-McVie duet album http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...113-story.html -



Fleetwood Mac's Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham talk about making their first duet album

Although Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are also working on the album, it won’t be released as a Fleetwood Mac album. (Jan. 13, 2017)
Randall Roberts

Longtime devotees of the rock band Fleetwood Mac might be forgiven for letting out a gleeful yelp when registering the news that singer-keyboardist Christine McVie shared with The Times in December while sitting next to her band mate -- guitarist, singer and producer Lindsey Buckingham.

“I've been sending Lindsey demos in their very raw form,” she says, sitting in the Village Studio’s storied Studio D in West Los Angeles, “and he's been doing his Lindsey magic on them, which I love.”

The product of that magic is tentatively scheduled to come out in May, and the two are at the Village to work on vocals. Working with them are two familiar names: Mick Fleetwood, whose towering drum kit is in the next room, and bassist John McVie.

The album coming out of these sessions, however, won’t bear the Fleetwood Mac imprimatur.

Rather, the release with the working title “Buckingham McVie” will arrive as the first full-length collaboration between the pair.

For hard-core fans, it’s not news that, save band mate Stevie Nicks, Fleetwood Mac’s members have been holed up at the Village. At various intervals over the past few years, the band has acknowledged working on an unspecified project thought to be a new Fleetwood Mac album.

In fact, during a studio visit in 2014, The Times’ Randy Lewis sat down with Christine McVie and Buckingham to discuss her return to touring after 16 years away from the band.

“I thought, I'm really missing out on something — something that's mine, that I’ve just given up,” she said to Lewis. “I'm not paying respect to my own gift."

Nearly three years later, sharing a couch in the same suite where decades earlier Fleetwood Mac recorded its epic album “Tusk,” Buckingham says that after her return, he and McVie generated an entire album’s worth of material during the sessions.

“We got in here, and it made sense to me with what she had given me and what I done with it. But we still didn't know how it was going to play out in the studio,” Buckingham says.

He quickly realized that he’d had a pent-up enthusiasm for this kind of collaboration. “I loved doing it, because it's something that I haven't had a chance to do for Stevie as much as I did in the past,” he says, stressing that he continues to compose for solo projects.

“Those are a little more esoteric and off to the side,” he says, “but that's not the same as doing it for somebody else.”

Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie in 2014 at West L.A.'s Village Studios.

McVie says she reconnected with Mick Fleetwood prior to joining the 2014 Fleetwood Mac “On With the Show” tour. She’d been living a solitary life in rural England when the drummer traveled to London in order to escort her to Hawaii, the destination she chose to help her overcome her fear of flying.

“I'd been virtually doing nothing in the country in 16 years of being a retired lady. Being busy walking my dogs — actually not doing anything very constructive,” she says. “I made one little solo album in my garage.” (2004’s “In the Meantime.”)

Buckingham remembers Fleetwood calling him soon thereafter. “He said, Christine's been over here and, you know, she would like to maybe rejoin the band." For Buckingham, it was a no-brainer.

McVie lets out a big laugh. “It’s unprecedented!”

“Yeah, but a lot of things about Fleetwood Mac are unprecedented,” says Buckingham. “I left for a long time and you guys got two guitar players and went ahead and did that for a while. Then I came back.”

“Weird times,” McVie says.

“Yeah,” Buckingham agrees. “I mean it's a band like no other.”

A better thing's never happened to me. I've reconnected with the band and found a fantastic person to write with.
— Christine McVie on her new collaboration with Lindsey Buckingham
McVie, who is best known for writing and singing Mac gems including “Don’t Stop,” “Over My Head” and “Think About Me,” acknowledges that, early on in the Buckingham-McVie project, she doubted her ability to reconnect with her muse.

“I suppose I wondered if I believed in myself,” she says. “But I was like, 'Go for it, Chris. Go for it.' And, you know, a better thing's never happened to me. I've reconnected with the band and found a fantastic person to write with.”

Looking at Buckingham, she adds, “We've always written well together, Lindsey and I, and this has just spiraled into something really amazing that we've done between us.”

For his part, Buckingham’s initial songwriting contributions were the product of sessions with Fleetwood and John McVie, which Buckingham invited Christine McVie to augment.

“It was just pieces with no wording,” she says. “ so I put melody and lyrics on some of his material.”

“That was a first,” says Buckingham. “She would write lyrics and maybe paraphrase the melody — and come up with something far better than what I would have done if I'd taken it down the road myself.”

All these years we've had this rapport, but we'd never really thought about doing a duet album before.
— Lindsey Buckingham
Those up on the history of Fleetwood Mac might note in the Buckingham McVie moniker the echo of an earlier duet album, “Buckingham Nicks.” Released in 1973 by the two future Fleetwood Mac members when they were a romantic and musical partnership, the Nicks and Buckingham release led Fleetwood a year later to invite the couple to join his band.

Nicks hasn’t contributed to the forthcoming Buckingham McVie project. She’s been on her own trip. In 2016, Nicks embarked on her “Rockin’ 24 Karat Gold Tour” with the Pretenders as openers. That tour will continue with a few dozen more dates across early 2017.

Her schedule, however, had little bearing on what Buckingham and McVie were creating, says Buckingham.

“All these years we've had this rapport, but we'd never really thought about doing a duet album before,” Buckingham says. “There is that album that I did with Stevie back before we joined the band, but other than that, it's all been Fleetwood Mac or solo.”

Interrupting with a tone of bafflement, McVie says, “And why on Earth? It seems absurd after 45 years.”

“Sometimes,” Buckingham says, “it takes, oh, about 40 years of perspective to figure it out.”

[dontlookdown]

Great news!
Really looking forward to this collaboration.
Seeds We Sow was easily one of Buckingham's best solo albums; and Christine's music deserves to be brought into the 21st century with a modern sound.

I think it's going to sound a lot more current and interesting w/o Stevie.
As much as I love her voice, I like the idea of something unpredictable and unexpected.

Good for them for taking a chance and not relying on the old formula!