Lindsey on Conans podcast

[BigAl84]

Just to reiterate how stupid all of this was, here's a second by second recap. They're all standing like statues...as Stevie approaches the 5 minute mark, Christine starts tapping her watch. This whole debacle has little to do with Lindsey and more about the fact that the ENTIRE rest of the band didn't appreciate her 10 minute speech when the rest of them kept their words to an acceptable length. Not Stevie, she made them stand awkwardly while she held court. She made this about Lindsey (because that's the easiest getaway car) instead of admitting she was pissed at all of them, including her "best friend in the whole world, Christine" So that's my takedown of the 2018 bullsh*t. Arguably the dumbest argument in Fleetwood Mac history.

Of course she never wants to share the stage with Lindsey again because she realized that Lindsey and the rest of the band had no issue in calling her out on her own BS. For the first time since 2003 - she was outnumbered. There was only one way to restore the balance of power.



Then Lindsey reacts with a laugh:


Christine is visibly laughing as Lindsey does a quick dance move:


Mick: by god how long is she going to make us stand here

[David]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

This whole debacle has little to do with Lindsey and more about the fact that the ENTIRE rest of the band didn't appreciate her 10 minute speech when the rest of them kept their words to an acceptable length.

Yes, completely. But if a member of my band spends ten minutes talking about herself at a group event, I’m going to show the political intelligence to stand very still and then take the mic and do exactly what that other person did: aggrandize myself and push my own memories and experiences forward and ignore the collective — for another ten minutes. I would have completely counterbalanced Stevie’s ego display with a display of my own. It wouldn’t have made for very interesting TV, but she wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on if she had tried to complain about me.

The others have never put the connection together and have never had the political intelligence to handle Stevie by being Stevie or taking her at her word.

If she was complaining about not being involved in the studio, ask her point blank to supply the keyboard, drums, bass, or guitar for a couple of tracks and tell her you need some rough tracks in two weeks.

If she complained about you in the press, tell the same pop music critic: “She had an interesting take and I appreciate hearing from her. However, here’s how I remember that incident.”

If she complained about how mean your lyrics were, complain about how mean and hurtful her lyrics were (“Rulers make bad lovers” is meaner than anything in “Go Your Own Way”).

Sign a copy of your albums and put them all on her chair at the studio — a big stack of them.

If she’s backstage during the show for too many minutes, cut your song a little short and go to the mic and ask, “Stevie? Will you be out here soon?”

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by David

Yes, completely. But if a member of my band spends ten minutes talking about herself at a group event, I’m going to show the political intelligence to stand very still and then take the mic and do exactly what that other person did: aggrandize myself and push my own memories and experiences forward and ignore the collective — for another ten minutes. I would have completely counterbalanced Stevie’s ego display with a display of my own. It wouldn’t have made for very interesting TV, but she wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on if she had tried to complain about me.

The others have never put the connection together and have never had the political intelligence to handle Stevie by being Stevie or taking her at her word.

If she was complaining about not being involved in the studio, ask her point blank to supply the keyboard, drums, bass, or guitar for a couple of tracks and tell her you need some rough tracks in two weeks.

If she complained about you in the press, tell the same pop music critic: “She had an interesting take and I appreciate hearing from her. However, here’s how I remember that incident.”

If she complained about how mean your lyrics were, complain about how mean and hurtful her lyrics were (“Rulers make bad lovers” is meaner than anything in “Go Your Own Way”).

Sign a copy of your albums and put them all on her chair at the studio — a big stack of them.

If she’s backstage during the show for too many minutes, cut your song a little short and go to the mic and ask, “Stevie? Will you be out here soon?”

YES!! so many great points, David! It's maddening none of them ever had the guts to do it.

I really hope that at least ONE of them said behind the scenes that it wasn't just Lindsey "smirking" behind the podium. Sadly, I wouldn't be shocked if they sat back with their mouths shut and let Lindsey take the brunt of it all. They sure did publicly. Even on national tv they sat back while Stevie spilled blatant lies, to the point that Christine can't even look up from her hands.

Lindsey was absolutely right that perhaps the Chain was more appropriate for an entrance song because they all had a hand in writing it. It's the only joint co-writing credit they all share. Stevie wanted Rhiannon for the obvious reason - thats one of her career defining songs. He should have suggested "You Make Loving Fun" and then see her reaction.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

YES!! so many great points, David! It's maddening none of them ever had the guts to do it.

I really hope that at least ONE of them said behind the scenes that it wasn't just Lindsey "smirking" behind the podium. Sadly, I wouldn't be shocked if they sat back with their mouths shut and let Lindsey take the brunt of it all.

They really ALL were to blame for "calling her out". But she hates Lindsey the most, so she sure showed him. Old HAG.

[BigAl84]

They called her out every night of the 2014 tour during her Gypsy story time. John and Christine had no issue having full conversations while sitting on that amp, you can't tell me Stevie didn't know what was going on. At one point Christine blew the whistle on Stevie to wrap it up. Music Cares was supposed to be an honor for ALL of them and she pulls the same sh*t again and grandstands for 10 minutes. It's no wonder.

They all had no issue participating in the passive aggressive behavior and continued to do it at an awards show, but then collectively let Lindsey take the fall when somebody finally had a meltdown that was years in the making.

[BigAl84]

I realize that I probably sound like Chevy Chase in that scene from Christmas Vacation....thanks for humoring my rants. I've got my Tylenol.

[UnwindedDreams]

Al, just with regard to the White Album Rhiannon playing before FM started playing The Chain…Karen or whoever could have easily put the cricket noises on. I was at this event and it was just weird that Rhiannon was playing while the curtain was closed. It would have been like Monday Morning playing before a Mac concert starts.

And then Harry Styles came out to introduce them, have the curtain be pulled open, and sing The Chain with them, which was a favor to Stevie I gather so she could sing to her best friend and perhaps a favor to Azoff’s son who manages Harry. Harry had no business being up there singing with them but luckily he really just looked like a background singer and he didn’t steal any spotlights. He actually interacted most with Lindsey and Mick.

Back to the tour negotiations, Lindsey probably said something to Stevie that really made her tick. The negotiations happened in late 2017. I think the late great Brett said rehearsal for MusiCares was tense because they hadn’t seen each other since the tour meetings. I’m thinking what gets Stevie angriest with Lindsey is any hint that her door opening to be able to become “Stevie Nicks” was Mick being impressed by Lindsey on Frozen Love.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I realize that I probably sound like Chevy Chase in that scene from Christmas Vacation....thanks for humoring my rants. I've got my Tylenol.

HalleLUJAH! Holy $hiiit!

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

They called her out every night of the 2014 tour during her Gypsy story time.

I remember her Gypsy speech at the NJ show in oct. 2014. I didn't feel it was too long at that moment, and even found it kind of interesting. But at the end of the show she stood alone for several minutes doing a looong goodbye speech while some people started to go out, including me cause I didn't understood what she was saying (the sound at Prudential Center was not the best), plus I was more worried about getting out of the parking area soon, since traffice is always a nightmare at the end of concerts.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I remember her Gypsy speech at the NJ show in oct. 2014. I didn't feel it was too long at that moment, and even found it kind of interesting. But at the end of the show she stood alone for several minutes doing a looong goodbye speech while some people started to go out, including me cause I didn't understood what she was saying (the sound at Prudential Center was not the best), plus I was more worried about getting out of the parking area soon, since traffice is always a nightmare at the end of concerts.

I think at the end of the Columbus, OH show she gave her dreamcatcher speech.