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Stevie wrote Soldier’s Angel. Lindsey was the one who was able to capture on guitar what Stevie herself did in her piano demo. I am not discounting Lindsey’s contributions as a producer to Stevie’s music but come on - if you look at most of her demos, you find the bones of what would become some of her greatest hits, even with her own rudimentary piano skills. And trying to take her lyrics away from her by referring to them as “ditties” is just offensive. Lindsey is a great guitar player and producer but Stevie is the superior lyricist by far. Their skills complement rather than diminish each other. Also, I checked the credits and Stevie is credited as the sole I Don’t Care writer, as she is on most of 24KG. I think she said she improvised the last verse in the studio so this is probably her most recent solo-written song.
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Above - Stevie herself suggesting Soldier's Angel is a Buckingham Nicks creation. I'm sharing her view. I don't see the misogyny point. You do not know what's in my head or my heart. I love Stevie. Seen her over 40 times, even bought her new 3 disc set. This is a forum which is an exchange of opinions. There was no hate speech shared by me. Not nice of you. Thankfully, many believe we all answer to The Lord for how we speak to others |
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What I don’t get....(misogyny apart)..
Some of her demos, early demos I mean, sound pretty good. Just her and the piano BUT the tune is there. Before anyone else has given the song a hand. Before production. Some of them sound really good, some better than the finished article. So she can and did write songs. |
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So if someone doesn't like a man....say, Donald Trump(or Lindsey, or any man), that means that they're misandrous?
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No it doesn’t. But you already knew that.
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Yeah, I don't even bother to engage with that one. Blocked and moved on.
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Not liking Stevie doesn't necessarily equate with being a misogynist. The lack of logic being used here is staggering...
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Yes it is, actually for quite some time. As is the endless ruining of threads by haters. I come here once in a while wanting to engage in a thread or two in the Stevie forum and find that it’s been hijacked by people (person, really) who for whatever reason spend their time posting on threads about people they hate.
This is not the first time that it’s been said Stevie needed a man to turn her songs into anything. If I as a 50 year old man can see the endless misogyny, others can too. They are just choosing not to. As for the thread topic, I hope that I Don’t Care isn’t her final solo song as I can barely tolerate it. Would be much better if Soldier’s Angel. Last edited by Buster; 04-23-2020 at 03:13 PM.. |
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I can't recall anyone saying she needed a MAN. The harsh reality is she needs SOMEONE who is a far better musician than she is to turn her songs from nice demos to actual songs that would get played on the radio (she herself says this). Sheryl Crow was one of those people. The reality is, Stevie herself is prejudiced against other women. SHe's said many many times (not that long ago again) that she doesn't like listening to the advice or inputs of other women in her career or her songs. Christine and Sheryl seem to be notable exceptions. She likes working with men and being the main girl so the reality is, by her choice most of her collaborators and cowriters have all been men. I don't think most people on here think she HAS to work with a MAN to get her songs out, but that for the most part is has BEEN men who have turned her raw material into radio playable hits. Her choice. And when the hell did having a different opinion become "hating"?? I own everything this woman has ever recorded (often multiple copies) and have gone to see her live for decades. I love her stuff but am also able to see her flaws. Most of her demos, especially as the years went on, are very monotonic and are, as she herself described them, her plonking with two fingers on the keyboard. Yes she writes the top end-- the melody and lyrics-- but she doesn't give musicians much to work with. By Chris's own description Lindsey had to figure out what Christine should play on Stevie's songs because Chris couldn't make heads or tails of them, and by Benmont's own account Jimmy had Benmont sit with her and do the same-- figure out what the musicians could play from her solo demos. Fact, like it or not. Could it have been done by a woman? Technically yes, but Stevie wouldn't have allowed it.
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I also looked at liner notes for 24 Karat Gold for the regular cd, not deluxe: Lyrics were by Stevie Nicks, Music was by Waddy and Michael Campbell
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I was just researching whether “Show Them The Way,” released not long after I started this thread, qualified as a solo written song. It does not, as it was co-written by keyboardist Greg Kurstin. He perhaps most famously co-wrote “Hello” with Adele.
So “Soldier’s Angel” still holds the title!
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