1973

[HomerMcvie]

Well, ya know, Stevy wasn't around before 1975....

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

"Fake Fleetwood Mac" thing? ( I'm clueless about pre-1975, for the most part, although I like much of the music. )

Anyway, I'm sure they worked very hard and had high-standards, but still, I think comparatively, it was somewhat less intense back then. Many more people involved post-1974, also, I bet. It brings to mind Mick's comment in Destiny Rules about "sometimes I wonder" (whether it's actually necessary to have a Record Company). Sort of a "too many cooks spoil the broth" kinda thing, perhaps....

How can you argue that it was less intense if you freely admit you're completely clueless about it?

Recording five albums in a little over three years, touring incessantly, firing three band members (one because mental problems, one because of creative incompatibility, and one because he was screwing the drummer's wife), and suing your record company because they sent a different band out on the road under your name sure sounds pretty intense to me.

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

"Fake Fleetwood Mac" thing? ( I'm clueless about pre-1975, for the most part, although I like much of the music. )

Anyway, I'm sure they worked very hard and had high-standards, but still, I think comparatively, it was somewhat less intense back then. Many more people involved post-1974, also, I bet. It brings to mind Mick's comment in Destiny Rules about "sometimes I wonder" (whether it's actually necessary to have a Record Company). Sort of a "too many cooks spoil the broth" kinda thing, perhaps....

I think Mick and John would freely admit to moments pre-1975 that at least matched anything that came after in the intensity stakes. Particularly trying to continue a tour while your guitarist is screwing your wife - I mean, how intense do you want? Also having your main songwriter (Kirwan) losing his marbles and everyone not speaking to him for months - do you sack him or wait and hope he gets back to normal? And like having Jeremy Spencer just disappear into nowhere mid-tour, and you have to take a few days out to find him, thinking maybe he's dead... apart from the aforementioned manager-hiring-new-guys-to-impersonate-you-without-you-knowing trip...

I know that things got pretty wound up in the late 70s, but by then Mac was absolutely no stranger to intensity

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

I think Mick and John would freely admit to moments pre-1975 that at least matched anything that came after in the intensity stakes. Particularly trying to continue a tour while your guitarist is screwing your wife - I mean, how intense do you want? Also having your main songwriter (Kirwan) losing his marbles and everyone not speaking to him for months - do you sack him or wait and hope he gets back to normal? And like having Jeremy Spencer just disappear into nowhere mid-tour, and you have to take a few days out to find him, thinking maybe he's dead... apart from the aforementioned manager-hiring-new-guys-to-impersonate-you-without-you-knowing trip...

I know that things got pretty wound up in the late 70s, but by then Mac was absolutely no stranger to intensity

Which makes the fact that they're still around today all the more amazing.

[wetcamelfood]

OK, I'm experimenting with YouTube

Hopefully ths link will give you guys the link to see "Miles away" from the '73 Midnight Special:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Miles-Away?v=VDaDKiAsyms

If not go to www.youtube.com and search for Fleetwood Mac Miles Away & I'm sure it'll come up.

Unfortunately "Believe me" is more than the 100MB size that YouTube allows (as is the "Bigger the love" Switzerland '94 clip I was going to post here for ChiliD as requested earlier in this thread or a reasonbale facsimilie), but maybe if Miles Away works I can at least post MOST of those other 2 tracks there if I trim some off of those so they'll then be under the 100MB size.

Fingers crossed anyways.

John

[ThePenguin]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

OK, I'm experimenting with YouTube

Hopefully ths link will give you guys the link to see "Miles away" from the '73 Midnight Special:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Miles-Away?v=VDaDKiAsyms

If not go to www.youtube.com and search for Fleetwood Mac Miles Away & I'm sure it'll come up.

Unfortunately "Believe me" is more than the 100MB size that YouTube allows (as is the "Bigger the love" Switzerland '94 clip I was going to post here for ChiliD as requested earlier in this thread or a reasonbale facsimilie), but maybe if Miles Away works I can at least post MOST of those other 2 tracks there if I trim some off of those so they'll then be under the 100MB size.

Fingers crossed anyways.

John

ahh, that was scrumptious. thanks for posting that, John.

-Lis

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

OK, I'm experimenting with YouTube

Hopefully ths link will give you guys the link to see "Miles away" from the '73 Midnight Special:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Miles-Away?v=VDaDKiAsyms

WOW!

Thanks so much, John! And the video quality is fantastic!

Incredible. Bob Welch must have been one of the most unlikely rock stars in the world at the time. John's looking quite dapper back there though, and his bass work is just great on this, as is Weston's guitar (even if it's not quite as frenetic as on the studio track - and I wish he'd stepped up to do the three-part harmony). Mick looks hilarious and so... hungry. It's too bad Chris didn't get to break out any funky piano riffs on this song.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by wetcamelfood

OK, I'm experimenting with YouTube

Hopefully ths link will give you guys the link to see "Miles away" from the '73 Midnight Special:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Miles-Away?v=VDaDKiAsyms

If not go to www.youtube.com and search for Fleetwood Mac Miles Away & I'm sure it'll come up.

Unfortunately "Believe me" is more than the 100MB size that YouTube allows (as is the "Bigger the love" Switzerland '94 clip I was going to post here for ChiliD as requested earlier in this thread or a reasonbale facsimilie), but maybe if Miles Away works I can at least post MOST of those other 2 tracks there if I trim some off of those so they'll then be under the 100MB size.

Fingers crossed anyways.


John

u are my hero!!!