Heath Ledger is dead

[bretonbanquet]

I see that these freaks don't have the guts to go to Australia to protest at the actual funeral, because a) they're too cheap for the air fare and b) they know that there'd be a very long queue of Aussies who would cheerfully kill the lot of them They really would have an extremely hard time if they tried to protest like that over there. I really don't get how these people are allowed to get away with that stuff in the US

[michelle2677]

^^ because we aren't communists and have freedom of speech

okay, that was a joke, but it's true. I know most other countries do as well, but I feel america takes it to the extremes. We (they) use it as a crutch to be able to say and do whatever they please.

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

^^ because we aren't communists and have freedom of speech

okay, that was a joke, but it's true. I know most other countries do as well, but I feel america takes it to the extremes. We (they) use it as a crutch to be able to say and do whatever they please.

Yeah.. freedom of speech is a balancing act. It's okay to say what you like, but people (should) have a right not to be grossly offended by a tiny minority... I'm sure those weirdos would not be allowed to spout that crap here. Or print that flyer.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by carrie721

WHAT?!?!?!

jesus. i just watched brokeback again the other night. wtf.

Great movie. It was really sad.

What a damn shame he's dead. I loved him in 10 Things...I have a feeling he'll be remembered for his Joker portrayal.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

how the fukc does he know who God hates?

God doesn't hate anyone. This creep has some nerve and it pisses me off when people make Christians look worse than they already make themselves look

it's one thing to say "I think he deserves to go to hell because of this". that's just your personal opinion. it's a stupid one...in MY opinion. but still. Don't bring God into it. you don't know jack **** asshole.


sorry. I'm really PMSing right now, and not in the mood for people to be talking ****.


RIP heath. it's a shame your funeral is going to be filled with this bullcrap

I am not agreeing with them or in any way condoning them. But, here is their point of reference in The Bible. A quick reading of this complex topic here

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm

reveals they are incorrect, esp. considering Jesus Christ was the "New Convenant" with mankind, thus rendering the Old Testament or the Laws of Moses somewhat irrelevant as the way to enter Heaven becaue Jesus said salvation and the entrance to Heaven was only obtained through acceptance of Him as a person's saviour.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am not agreeing with them or in any way condoning them. But, here is their point of reference in The Bible. A quick reading of this complex topic here

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh.htm

reveals they are incorrect, esp. considering Jesus Christ was the "New Convenant" with mankind, thus rendering the Old Testament or the Laws of Moses somewhat irrelevant as the way to enter Heaven becaue Jesus said salvation and the entrance to Heaven was only obtained through acceptance of Him as a person's saviour.

my beef is when christians pass judgement on others, when it's really not their place.. I think that's where Christians get a bad rep. It's not so much what God has said, or what he's going to do, it's man saying "god is sending you to hell because you did this". I would never (seriously) claim to know what God is going to do. Religion is a very personal thing and it's none of my business. I've never been that "pushy" christian saying "you better beleive this or you will burn in hell for eternity".

that was more or less what I was saying

[strandinthewind]

^^^

I know.

But, I do think any religion has the right to set tenets of behavior within itself based on its foundations. In Christianity, that foundation is The Bible, which does address homosexuality (mostly in the Old Testament) - which is forbidden along with many other things that everyone ignores - sex with a woman too soon after or during her period is one that comes to mind. So, an individual has a choice. They can practice Christianity in a Chruch and ignore that fact. To me, this is really no big deal because all Christians by definition are sinners and almost are unrepentent in that they pick and choose which lkaws to follow as if they are choosing food in a cafeteria. Also, no "degree of severity in sin" exists in The Bible - a sin is a sin. The problem is the axiom "if you want to fill your pews and, therefore, your coffers, preach hate." No group is more reviled than fags. That is ashame, but true.

Interestingly, the next most persecuted is adultering women (not really men). So, in the end, it is white males controling the world for gain through fear. Sad, but very true.

This is not to say that organized religion has not done great things like feeding the poor and tending to the sick. But, even that is tainted depending on your point of view. A good example is Mother Theresa - Was she a saint or was she responsible for the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands of unwanted, uneeded children whose births could have been prevented with the use of birth control, which she never advocated and could never advocate and remain true to the Church, which was her greatest call. It creeps me out to talk about human life like that, but then I think about the horrible conditions thousands of children in India nd elsewhere her Order worked were born into (remember women are not worth much) and died in pain. In an intellectual argument, would it have been better to prevent those children's conception? Who can say. But, depending on your answer, one likely will either love or hate Mother Theresa.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

^^^

I know.

But, I do think any religion has the right to set tenets of behavior within itself based on its foundations. In Christianity, that foundation is The Bible, which does address homosexuality (mostly in the Old Testament) - which is forbidden along with many other things that everyone ignores - sex with a woman too soon after or during her period is one that comes to mind. So, an individual has a choice. They can practice Christianity in a Chruch and ignore that fact. To me, this is really no big deal because all Christians by definition are sinners and almost are unrepentent in that they pick and choose which lkaws to follow as if they are choosing food in a cafeteria. Also, no "degree of severity in sin" exists in The Bible - a sin is a sin. The problem is the axiom "if you want to fill your pews and, therefore, your coffers, preach hate." No group is more reviled than fags. That is ashame, but true.

Interestingly, the next most persecuted is adultering women (not really men). So, in the end, it is white males controling the world for gain through fear. Sad, but very true.

This is not to say that organized religion has not done great things like feeding the poor and tending to the sick. But, even that is tainted depending on your point of view. A good example is Mother Theresa - Was she a saint or was she responsible for the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands of unwanted, uneeded children whose births could have been prevented with the use of birth control, which she never advocated and could never advocate and remain true to the Church, which was her greatest call. It creeps me out to talk about human life like that, but then I think about the horrible conditions thousands of children in India nd elsewhere her Order worked were born into (remember women are not worth much) and died in pain. In an intellectual argument, would it have been better to prevent those children's conception? Who can say. But, depending on your answer, one likely will either love or hate Mother Theresa.

i see what you're saying. believe me I do. and there have been christian groups that have done lots of good, but there are also other groups that do wonderful things as well. I dont' have a problem with organized religion, and the different denominations. everyone has different beliefs and you have to find what suits you the best, even under Christianity. And i understand that for the most part, people use fear to get people to convert. Im just saying it would be a wonderful world (and a fukcing miracle ) if it were the other way around. Why not try and talk about the good things? Back to Phelps...really, what is that going to solve? I'm sure they have some motive, but if I weren't a Christian, and i saw that behaviour, it would turn me off faster than anything. hell, I AM a Christian and it turns me off. I don't understand why they don't see that.

[strandinthewind]

^^^

IMO Phelps' sole objective is money, which he achieves though notariety. I mean the man has advised very influential people, likely though the threat of protests. Personally, I think old Freddie boy is a closet case.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am literally speechless - but not surprised at this unChristianlike fool and those that follow him:

The "Reverend" Fred Phelps's Westboro Baptist Church announced plans to protest at the funeral of Heath Ledger.

Why?

The "God Hates Fags" hatemongers will picket the decease Aussie actor's funeral because he is a pervert who promoted homosexuality by appearing as a gay man in Brokeback Mountain.

We wish we could laugh at this stupidity, but it just makes us angry!

Heath may not have been perfect, but he doesn't deserve this.

www.perezhilton.com

It was just a matter of time before this ass reared his head again. I am tempted to dismiss these individuals as simply "crazy" but there is one thing that scares me. I know the leaders of this "Religious institution" "(almost)always stop just short of breaking most laws, specifically directly calling for the out and out murder of gay people, but here's the rub. I'll make a comparison between these people and the anti-abortion crowd. Some of them say abortion is murder and stuff like that, but while they themselves dont go ouy and kill or specifically call for the killing of abortion providers, you have this lunatic fringe of people like the guy in Buffalo New York several years ago that killed the one doctor there. Who's to say some follower of these Wesboro idiots wouldnt someday walk into some gay bar somewhere and shoot the place up?? Thats what gives me pause.

[strandinthewind]

For a truly sickening read on Phelps and his flock - go here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Here's a choice quote from this "man of God" who attributes all bad acts in the world to homosexuals:

Whatever righteous cause the Jewish victims of the 1930s-40s Nazi Holocaust had... has been drowned in sodomite semen. American taxpayers are financing this unholy monument to Jewish mendacity and greed and to filthy fag lust. Homosexuals and Jews dominated Nazi Germany . . . . The Jews now wander the earth despised, smitten with moral and spiritual blindness by a divine judicial stroke . . . . And God has smitten Jews with a certain unique madness . . . Jews, thus perverted, out of all proportion to their numbers energize the militant sodomite agenda... Jews are the real Nazis.

Nice

[CelticGypsy]

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

Another thing that makes me sad.. and sick.. IMO, I feel that above anything else, Heath Ledger was an incredibly talented actor, and person.. and definitely feel that all eyes, including the media, should be focused on that right now, instead of some 3-ring circus bs..

That so called "church" is a cult. They are NOT Christians. They don't even know what it means to be a Christian. They're a bunch of unstable and ignorant fools.

Let Heath rest in peace. Heath will be remembered for his wonderful work in the film industry and that he was a loving father to Matilda. I hope his family in Australia will know how much America and the world loved Heath's work.

A friend of mine sent this to me. Heath directed it.

[rubytuesday]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

I see that these freaks don't have the guts to go to Australia to protest at the actual funeral, because a) they're too cheap for the air fare and b) they know that there'd be a very long queue of Aussies who would cheerfully kill the lot of them They really would have an extremely hard time if they tried to protest like that over there. I really don't get how these people are allowed to get away with that stuff in the US

Yeah I really hate that freedom of speech thing or "it's a free country" that those sorts of Americans constantly pull out as there defence for anything. It's not limitless, when it is used in defence of acts of aggression intended to cause harm then it's a lot more complex than just "freedom of speech!". Anyway, there's more freedom of speech back in the UK and in Australia I think but like you say, I'd like to see that group come up against a crowd of average Aussies. REally though I'm glad they don't have the guts to go to Perth because that's the last thing his friends and family need.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by CelticGypsy

That so called "church" is a cult. They are NOT Christians. They don't even know what it means to be a Christian. They're a bunch of unstable and ignorant fools.

Let Heath rest in peace. Heath will be remembered for his wonderful work in the film industry and that he was a loving father to Matilda. I hope his family in Australia will know how much America and the world loved Heath's work.

A friend of mine sent this to me. Heath directed it.

Absolutely... Very true to all of this.. It's all just really sad..

[strandinthewind]

^^

What a cool vid. -- thanks for posting.

Also and in general -- here is John Gibson of Fox news laughing, yes LAUGHING at Ledger's death. What an a$$

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/...-mocks-ledger/

John Gibson Mocks ‘Weirdo’ Heath Ledger’s Death: ‘He Found Out How To Quit You’

Opening his radio show with funeral music yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson callously mocked the death of actor Heath Ledger, calling him a “weirdo” with a “serious drug problem.”

Playing an audio clip of the iconic quote, “I wish I knew how to quit you” from Ledger’s gay romance movie Brokeback Mountain, Gibson disdainfully quipped, “Well, he found out how to quit you.” Laughing, Gibson then played another clip from Brokeback Mountain in which Ledger said, “We’re dead,” followed by his own, mocking “We’re dead” before playing the clip again.

Listen to it:


Throughout the course of the show, Gibson continued to bring up Ledger’s death while discussing current events, jokingly claiming that current events may have caused him to commit suicide.

On yesterday’s drop in the stock market:

GIBSON: Maybe he had a serious position in the market.

TOM SULLIVAN: And possibly today, he looked at the window and said…

GIBSON: “Oh my God.”

SULLIVAN: His name’s not Keith Bledger, right?

GIBSON: He was depressed about yesterday’s downturn in the world stock markets.

On the Democratic debate in South Carolina:

GIBSON: Apparently Heath Ledger was suicidal and his friends saw it coming. I think he watched the Clinton-Obama debate last night. I think he was an Edwards guy, cause he saw his Edwards guy was just completely irrelevant.

In reality, New York City Police spokesman Paul J. Browne told the New York Times that there was “no obvious indication of suicide.”

You stay classy, John Gibson.

UPDATE: In 2006, when Brokeback Mountain was released, Gibson repeatedly made fun of the film, calling it “a gay agenda movie.”

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Pathetic and obviously this effete freak hates fags, which makes me believe there are some latent traits there.

I just sent this a$$wipe a blistering email